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Susanna said:
Wendell has officially declared mechanical storage dead.

A lot of online retailers are still selling 10th and eleventh gen garbage right next to the actually good 12th gen and up. That i7 means fuck all if there’s a good chance you’re getting something a fair bit worse than an i5 12400 or something instead.
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Mechanical storage was supposed to be dead like ten years ago, and yet it’s still here.
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Well, ODROID is advertising 48 GB for their new N97 ODROID-H4(+) SBC, which would be from a single SO-DIMM stick in single-channel. And 64 GB may be available within the next year or two.
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I saw them list 48 GB as the max addressable space, don't know if they'll be shipping that. It's not guaranteed to fail if you run out of spec, it's just that if you do have problems, like ASUS and MSI are with blasting too much power through their motherboards, Intel won't accept fault.

davids877 said:
Cheapest prices from diskprices:
SSD is $46/TB
Spinny Disk is $11/TB.
Still a bit of a gap there.
Wake me when I can get 100T raw SSD for under $1000
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I would agree it's dead, or soon to be, in the consumer space (assuming anyone still sells consumer computers with HDDs in them...they still did 5 years ago). For the business case? Hell, even tape lives on.
 
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The Ugly One said:
I would agree it's dead, or soon to be, in the consumer space (assuming anyone still sells consumer computers with HDDs in them...they still did 5 years ago). For the business case? Hell, even tape lives on.
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Not even… when I built my latest PC I made sure to keep my 4TB HDD to continue to hold my torrents and media files for my Plex server. Demand may decrease in the consumer space, but I don’t think it will ever be just an enterprise only type of thing.
 
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The Ugly One said:
I would agree it's dead, or soon to be, in the consumer space (assuming anyone still sells consumer computers with HDDs in them...they still did 5 years ago).
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What about external storage? Higher capacity models still use standard 3.5 HDDs on the inside and normies buy them all the time
 
Leaded Gasoline said:
What about external storage? Higher capacity models still use standard 3.5 HDDs on the inside and normies buy them all the time
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USB SATA tends to be shit, especially 3.5 inch. If you're plugging it in long term, you get problems like random USB disconnects, not to mention unreliable Chinese power bricks to drive them.
2.5 inch is somewhat more reliable if you're just plugging in every now and then.
 
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4090 Chad said:
Not even… when I built my latest PC I made sure to keep my 4TB HDD to continue to hold my torrents and media files for my Plex server. Demand may decrease in the consumer space, but I don’t think it will ever be just an enterprise only type of thing.
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That's basically what I'm planning for mine. Keep a HDD for media and slower games, use SSD's and m.2's for the boot and fast games, things that need speed. A 8tb WD blue is 120 dollars, a Seagate 8tb is even less.
 
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LegoTugboat said:
Some tentative benchmarks for the M4 are coming in, and they're... interesting.

Geekbench metal score of 53647, puts it between the AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT and the AMD Radeon Pro RX 580.

The M3, for reference, is 46571, so between a RX 480 and a 575X.
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tbh it's pretty impressive they can pump this kind of performance through a chip that's designed for passive cooling. I imagine the M4 Max is going to be a beast.
 
Just Some Other Guy said:
Trying to think of the last time I ran a consumer seagate HDD...might be all the way back when 1tb was considered a lot lol.
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned it before but, I had a Seagate Sarracuda, 500 gig, for about a decade. Sold it and some other parts to a friend building a PC for his nephew a while back.
 
Freedom Fighter said:
I'm pretty sure I mentioned it before but, I had a Seagate Sarracuda, 500 gig, for about a decade. Sold it and some other parts to a friend building a PC for his nephew a while back.
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How many dead sectors did it have
 
#lurker said:

Looking like a good idea to avoid ASUS unless you like great service where you are charged $3,000 for a repair on a $3,000 card.
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I was recently spellbound by Asus and the ROG Flow.
But, I was wondering about the after-purchase/warranty experience.

Thanks for curing me.
 
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whatever happened to those pc sticks? They were a trend for a while and one would've make excellent streaming sticks
 
Betonhaus said:
whatever happened to those pc sticks? They were a trend for a while and one would've make excellent streaming sticks
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I think the smaller ones that go right into the HDMI port have fallen out of fashion compared to larger variations that are not far off from mini PCs. Because you get better features and more cooling, and not some chunky thing sagging in the port.

Minisforum S100 just launched this week:

It's similar to "PC sticks" from MeLE:

If you're going that big and that shape, it's silly to me if it can't fit an M.2 2280.

You can still find new (using the N100) true and honest x86 HDMI PC sticks, but just look at this fucking thing:
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The Azulle “Access Pro Alder Lake” ships with a power adapter, an “HD adapter”, and a Quick Guide. The “HD adapter” is an HDMI female-to-female adapter for connecting an HDMI cable, since while it’s indeed possible to connect the PC stick directly to the back or side of a TV, the weight may end up damaging the HDMI port on either mini PC or display over time especially if you connect an Ethernet cable.
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Most people would use an HDMI extender with that, and it comes with one. Trying to force it to be a stick is pointless.

It might be possible to make it smaller again, even give it something like the Frore AirJet Mini to boost performance over fanless designs.
 
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