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Probably An Autist said:
they're 12Gbps. In fairness speed is hardly an issue, i'm only storing videos and shit
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The one on your link is 6Gbps. It should be fine, just watch out for pin 3
 
Probably An Autist said:
they're 12Gbps. In fairness speed is hardly an issue, i'm only storing videos and shit
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A single hard disk wasn't even crack 3 Gbps so the speed isn't an issue at all. Apparently SAS 3 is supposed to be more power efficient and support chaining more devices, so that's why the drive controllers support it. The performance of each lane with respect to HDDs only becomes important if you're using an expander,

For instance, say you're using a NetApp DS4246 disk shelf with its built in expander, then you'll have 24 drives sharing a 4 lane SAS 2 connection (assuming no
multipath). If you're a poorfag or retard and bought a DS4243, then it's only 4 lanes of glacial 3 Gbps SAS 1 across 24 fucking drives :lossmanjack:

Those DS4246s can also be chained. So you can have that single 4 lane connection daisy chained to an entire rack full of shelves if you want.
 
Oh thank goodness, the site's back up!

I picked up the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2-themed RTX 4070 Ti Super earlier today with the "help" of an uncle that I'm on good terms with and is also into PC gaming. And by "help" I mean he got it for me as a Christmas gift despite telling him that I'm fine paying for it on my own.

Now all that's left are the cooling system (I just ordered a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU cooler), storage (I'm eyeballing 2TB SSDs but I'm also looking at 4TB SSDs) , the case (I'm still keeping an eye on the Lian Li Lancool 207 but I'm also investigating cases that are in a similar size range and power button/USB port layout), the PSU, the operating system (Itll probably follow my laptop's current system and go with Windows 11), and any other things I might need.

Looks like it time for another Micro Center trip.
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Intel will make a 10 GB card under the B580:

Intel Arc B570 specs leaked: 18 Xe2-Cores, 10GB memory and PCIe 4.0×8

Launch/announcement is apparently on December 3rd.

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I'm looking forward to battlemage, not because I necessarily want one (though one may go in the server for transcoding at a later date), but because more competition is good. Arc is surprisingly cromulent with its more developed drivers.
Archeops said:
Oh thank goodness, the site's back up!

I picked up the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2-themed RTX 4070 Ti Super earlier today with the "help" of an uncle that I'm on good terms with and is also into PC gaming. And by "help" I mean he got it for me as a Christmas gift despite telling him that I'm fine paying for it on my own.

Now all that's left are the cooling system (I just ordered a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU cooler), storage (I'm eyeballing 2TB SSDs but I'm also looking at 4TB SSDs) , the case (I'm still keeping an eye on the Lian Li Lancool 207 but I'm also investigating cases that are in a similar size range and power button/USB port layout), the PSU, the operating system (Itll probably follow my laptop's current system and go with Windows 11), and any other things I might need.

Looks like it time for another Micro Center trip.
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Can't get too wrong with the Lancool cases, I have a Lancool 2 Mesh and its great.
 
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Probably An Autist said:
I'm looking forward to battlemage, not because I necessarily want one (though one may go in the server for transcoding at a later date), but because more competition is good. Arc is surprisingly cromulent with its more developed drivers
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What I like is that Intel doesn't cripple their GPUs by restricting features more useful for work then play.
 
Probably An Autist said:
I'm looking forward to battlemage, not because I necessarily want one (though one may go in the server for transcoding at a later date), but because more competition is good. Arc is surprisingly cromulent with its more developed drivers.
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I'll seriously consider buying a 75W Battlemage card to drop in to an OEM system. If they are doing B380 and below this time.
 
 

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I feel like Pat has become the fall guy for the typically shortsighted investor community. Dude came in in 2021 when the shit that would sink Intel was already well in motion and couldn't really be stopped.

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>muh optane

Optane was a commercial failure. Pat axed it because no one was buying it. Just because a product is technically good doesn't mean it's successful.
 
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Another Char Clone said:
I've been looking for an internal tape drives and they're fucking expensive and its all SAS and 5.25 inch drives. I'm hoping to save up for an HPE LTO-9 drive for archiving my stuff, and I need all the bandwidth on cheap spiny rust to sufficiently feed the tape drive to run at full speed.
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Pretty much all of the reliable non-piece of shit LTO 9 drives I know are 12Gbit SAS. I've never seen another interface on a LTO 9 drive. UNITEX makes one with a USB 3 interface, but it's twice as expensive as a Quantum LTO 9 drive goes for, and I have only heard bad things about UNITEX (drive failures, cutting up tapes, endless RMA's), although the actual mechanism lookes quite similar to what you will find in a HPE or Quantum drive.

Unfortunately LTO 9 is quite an expensive hobby to get involved in, and mini-SAS/SFF-8644 is the connector to be found on all the external drives that aren't pieces of shit. If you are looking for cheaper options consider one of the older LTO generations, as there is a pretty good second hand market for those already.
 
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For the sas guy buy a LSI Mega raid 9361 used. It's a good sas controller, and you can run it on a x8 conn.
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger Quits, Leaving The Company’s Foundry Strategy Potentially In The Doldrums (archive)
https://www.intc.com/news-events/pr...tel-announces-retirement-of-ceo-pat-gelsinger (archive)

PAT IS OUT
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Hypotheses:
  1. Intel's whiffed big with Gaudi and Ponte Vecchio. They have next to no marketshare in the $50b+ datacenter AI hardware market. Investors want Pat gone, since apparently everyone's going to make money on AI except Intel.
  2. Lawsuits for the 13th & 14th gen fiasco are inbound, and Intel's realized it's gonna get taken to the cleaners.
  3. There's a fundamental conflict between Pat & the board on some business direction (splitting off Foundry?), and he's decided to split rather than argue more.
 
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And I just ordered an SSD for the computer, I went with a 2TB 980 Pro SSD from Samsung. I would’ve liked to get a 4TB SSD but either can’t find one for a good price or I’ve missed out on any sales.
Probably An Autist said:
Can't get too wrong with the Lancool cases, I have a Lancool 2 Mesh and its great.
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That’s good to hear, I initially went with it due to it having the right dimensions for the space I’ve set up but I like the port layout it has. I’ll also keeping an eye out for other cases with similar measurements.
 
Are Samsung SSDs still good compared to the likes of Western Digital?
 
WULULULULU said:
Are Samsung SSDs still good compared to the likes of Western Digital?
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I would consider WD a step over Samsung. Peak SSD are Kioxia though (the Toshiba-That-Was). Specifically their enterprise drives, which are fairly easy to get in SLC for optimal performance and good longevity. They’re reliable enough that they’re basically the only flash I’d consider getting second hand (refurb), Optane excluded (Optane’s not technically flash anyway).
 
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Archeops said:
And I just ordered an SSD for the computer, I went with a 2TB 980 Pro SSD from Samsung. I would’ve liked to get a 4TB SSD but either can’t find one for a good price or I’ve missed out on any sales.
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The Samsung SSD is good but make sure the firmware is up to date. There really shouldn't be any floating around on retail shelves that contain the premature wear bug but better safe than sorry.
Kees H said:
SAS
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FC is the most common I've seen and I think they basically work the same anyway. Anything USB based is going to be prosumer crap.

Tape isn't getting more popular, and where it still is used, it's typically larger setups with a whole library and a robot so there's not really a lot of small standalone units trickling down to the plebs. I'm not sure why a normal person would be interested in tape backups unless it's just for learning and if you wanted to do that, just get some old LTO-4 shit.
 
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I wonder if there could be a service renting out tape machines so that someone comes by once a month to your place to do an incremental backup, with you holding onto the tapes.
 
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