I think it's likely that AMD can match or outperform the 5070 Ti for less money, and maybe close the upscaling gap a bit with FSR4. 5070 Ti will probably be in high demand since it's closer to what people are willing to pay and has the 16 GB they are looking for.
Don't forget to try the 9800X3D's iGPU while you wait.
I’ve been running on the 9800x3d iGPU since launch. So here are my findings.
General usage and internet browsing - If you’re the kind of person to open a lot of tabs, make sure you don’t have too many media elements up. The computer will start to lag if you have 2 or 3 videos up even if they’re paused or in the background. If you have like 10 or so tabs up, the GPU will start to fail and you’ll get black windows, or failures of real time render (the page will not change in appearance even though you’re scrolling up and down. The solution to this is make sure your browser is set to remember what pages you had open, then restart the app.
Media Players - Playing a single video file at 4K seems to be fine, more than one will be prone to system slowdowns or the GPU crashing (black. window, or the bright green/pink static).
Productivity:
Adobe Lightroom - Crashes on the reg.
Adobe Photoshop - seems fine, so long as you are operating on a resolution not too much larger than 4K, and not too many layers. I was doing illustration, and some image manipulation fine.
Davinci Resolve - The video previewer will crash, and seeking back and forth in the time line will fail or make the application crash. Sub Clipping and editing larger timelines is a no go, will randomly crash.
Office Apps- All good, except you may run into troubles in excel with more complex equations and larger data sets.
Gaming:
You’ll be running games on the absolute lowest settings, and resolution, even the older games.
Examples from my experience since the 9800x3d launch:
Dragonball Sparking - On the absolute lowest settings, and lowest resolutions. This game will vary between 10-45 FPS, even within the hyperbolic time chamber which is the simplest stage in the game. Other stages will be laggy as hell.
Ryu Ga Gotoku Games - These are the Yakuza games, and Virtua Fighter 5 REVO. These games can actually run well at the lowest settings.
Guild Wars 2 - You have to run everything on the absolute lowest settings, but you’ll get good framerates in general play. Still doesn’t handle large crowds well, though I’ve heard large crowds are bad even if you’re on a 4090, just the limitations of this games engine.
Team Fortress 2 - Using the mastercomfig ultra optimized settings, and playing at 5120x1440 I get anywhere between 75-100FPS depending on what’s going on in the game.
Hearts of Iron IV - Playing at the absolute lowest settings at 5120 x 1440, i get around 3040ish FPS at max gameplay speed. Good thing this game doesn’t require good framerates.
Stellaris - Same with HOI4, good thing you don’t need a high frame rate for this game.
Front Mission 1 Remake - Even on the lowest settings, at the absolute lowest resolution, you will be at single digit FPS, completely unplayable.
Tactics Ogre Remake - You may need to lower the resolution, but playable.
Diablo 2 Remake - Playing at 5120 x 1440, I get around 30fps on lowest settings. Using classic mode makes this much better, but you’ll won’t bet getting the extra screen space, just black bars on the sides will be much bigger.
Path of Exile 2 - Playable at the lowest resolution upscaled, still will lag depending on area and amount of monsters on screen. Everything will look like a pixelated mess, and you’ll have trouble determining what’s what.
Grim Dawn - Even at the lowest settings and res, its going to be less than 60 FPS, and much worse with more stuff on screen.
Soldak Games - So laggy, even at the lowest res. I don’t understand how games with such scuffed graphics can’t run well on such a system.
Dead or Alive 5 - Playable, but missing exclusive fullscreen so you have to play in a tiny window.
Dead or Alive 6 - 5-10 FPS, not playable.
Tekken 8 - 10FPS, so its a no go.
Street Fighter 6 - Just crashes on startup.
Dynasty Warrior Origins Demo - Nah, not even at the lowest possible settings. Single Digit FPS.
Monster Hunter World - Nope, haven’t tested Monster Hunter Rise yet though.
Conclusion:
Anything Unreal 5 or Unity is likely troublesome, even if the game has shitty graphics. The rest will entirely depend on optimization, even newer games can be fine if they are optimized well for example the Ryu Ga Gotoku games ( Yakuza and Virtua Fighter), the upcoming Majima Pirate spin off has the same requirements so should be fine too.
Good luck out there, due to the GPU shortage and running at such a high resolution, my only option is waiting for more 5090s to release, or go maybe buy an RX 7900 XTX. The upcoming RX 9070, and it’s XT counter-part have less RAM so are less attractive to me. Stores here in Taiwan and Japan sold out basically immediately. Not sure if you guys will have better luck in your regions.
