GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Mister Fister said:
$1K for a PS5 Pro after 3 years of online, stand and dvd player, consoles are no better right now.
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The average PC component is raising in price. I mean fuck me, even getting a 4TB SN850X is like a quarter of a Nvidia GPU. The 10,000 USD PC meme is starting to become a reality and really, now is a shit time to start building your PC, given that even used GPUs are rising in price. Which is sad given that most, if not all of whoever is in the thread has gotten in that situation before of wanting to build their first PC, and I guess that means we're way lucky, hell @4090 Chad must be lucky his GPU didn't fry itself into oblivion.
 
WULULULULU said:
The average PC component is raising in price. I mean fuck me, even getting a 4TB SN850X is like a quarter of a Nvidia GPU. The 10,000 USD PC meme is starting to become a reality and really, now is a shit time to start building your PC, given that even used GPUs are rising in price.
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I'm not disagreeing with you but it's not just PC parts, it's everything right now.
 
Mister Fister said:
I'm not disagreeing with you but it's not just PC parts, it's everything right now.
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True, though I would argue, some have more obvious price increases that others, PC and gaming in general are no exception.
 
WULULULULU said:
PC gaming and enthusiast tech have reached a low point in the history of tech enthusiast general. We have mocked people for buying consoles, now they are laughing at us and people are actually picking PS5s and Switches over PC.
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No one is picking up a PS5. Sales for it are far below even Sony's most pessimistic projections.

What is there to play on the thing? AAA slop sucks and runs like crap on the PS5 and everything else runs fine on a GTX 1070 which you can pick up for $30.
 
Honestly I think I'd just get an AIO. My Trident 3's 1660 Super is good enough for the games I play, and AIOs have a little more sane pricing compared to making a built system.
 
Just Some Other Guy said:
I still maintain that pc enthusiasts get the market they deserve. It was all lols and "who cares I just want the best" when the prices started really getting jacked.

"But muh car comparison"

"Muh [insert expensive rich person hobby here] comparison"

Open the wallet up, poors. Or play old games/ play on nigger settings.
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I choose to play on nigger settings. I'm not paying a dime over $400 for a gpu. The 4060 is the value king right now. If I were still a gamer in any capacity, that's the one I'd go for. It's simply not worth it to have the best of the best. I put value for money above all else when considering my build.

Also, I will always pick higher frame rates over eye candy. Games look good enough these days that you really don't need to play on high settings.
 
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Gerelatha said:
VAT subtracted but will it be +tarrifs
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Tariffs and the fact that most AIB models are going to be over MSRP. I’m curious if the partner cards are going to go the insane route like Nvidia and have models with 30-50% markup.
 
Betonhaus said:
It depends on if it's shiny dogshit or stable dogshit.
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Mine had some rough patches, but it's actually stable as hell now. I haven't fucked with any of the BIOS settings since I updated it to allow the 5600 to function. I had to revert to a last known good boot of my OS, and after that, everything was fine. Windows 10 picked up my new processor and GPU and I was off to the races. I could throw a 5700 in this machine and not skip a beat with it.
 
marvlouslie said:
My PC might be dogshit, but it's MY dogshit. You feel (rightly) defensive about the things you put together with your own hands I've found out.
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Betonhaus said:
It depends on if it's shiny dogshit or stable dogshit.
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Dusty stable dogshit that I've modernized over the years so much I now have two perfectly functioning PC's at my disposal.

As an example of how scuffed it is, my current system has an i5-12400. It's from an earlier production batch where it still has AVX-512 on the silicon, but Intel disabled it in the very next microcode update. So I had to mod my BIOS to use the older microcode, then flash it with Q-Flash. Also last time I tried turning on Secure Boot it bricked the motherboard where I had to Q-Flash it to bring it back to life, because Gigabyte. But, ever since not fucking with it, it's stable, and I have AVX-512 support.

For oddities, I also have a case that has a 5.25" bay where I've put an ASUS BluRay drive with flashed firmware to let me rip BluRays with MakeMKV and CD's with Redumper. I don't even have any BluRays but the previous DVD drive that I had was fucky from the start where it would have issues with my DVD's that any slim laptop drive would read no issue, and I wanted to future proof my purchase a bit. Plus a COM bracket since I had it on hand, the motherboard has the headers for it, so why not. I used to have a PC speaker on the motherboard, but those BIOS flashes were wonky. On one flash it beeped fine, on another it failed to make a noise, so right now it's in the old build where it works fine. I miss it making an extra "beep" on startup though.

I've built this shitheap myself, in many cases very haphazardly but it gracefully didn't break from my retardation. I've abused it in a myriad of ways, but it still runs and serves me well, and I've turned it from a wonky 2015 midrange PC to a fairly modern, robust and capable system which can run all the games I ever wanted at great performance, and do all kinds of productivity tasks as well. Definitely a far cry from the old Win98 family laptop that started it all when I was still in kindergarten.

I'm proud of it. I thought about giving it a name, but "The Nigger" is a bit too on the nose and I lack the creativity to come up with a better name. It would fit the case color though.
 
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Prehistoric Jazz said:
Anyone know if the 9070 going to be preorderable tomorrow? Or do we have to wait until next thursday?
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This VideoCardz story says:
The Radeon RX 9070 series is confirmed to be released on March 6, 2025. Pre-orders for the series are expected to start today, at least in the Chinese market.
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So maybe they are about to open up very soon. The launch event starts at 8 AM EST with the livestream doing the premuzak 27 minutes from now:

In other news, FSR4 may be restricted to 9000 series, definitely at launch:
 
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"Accelerate our performance per dollar leadership"

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT For $599 & RX 9070 For $549 Launched: RDNA 4 GPU Up To 2.97 GHz, 16 GB Memory, Up To 68% Faster Than 7900 GRE

$599 Official. $549 is dumb for the 9070 non-XT, same mistake as 7700 XT and 7900 XT.

AMD claims +23% perf/$ when both the 9070 XT and 5070 Ti ($749) are at MSRP.

RX 9070 XT = 779 TOPS according to this. That must be INT8/FP8 because this slide is showing 1557 TOPS INT4:
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With the new FSR4 AI upscaling and Fluid Motion Frames (framegen) turned on, AMD is claiming similar/better image quality than native 4K with 3-4x the performance.

 
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