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Your upgrade path is zero
Having current sockets is cool but shouldn't be mandatory if your hardware is still sufficient

I'm currently looking at maxing out the RAM and upgrading the motherboard on my AM4 system. Upgrading entirely to AM5/DDR5 wouldn't be stupid even if it's more money but at a certain point one is just benchmark chasing. All the AM5 stuff will probably go cheap once AM6 drops anyway

Every additional year older non-powerhog computers are still in use is another year of not participating in the massive waste new ones cause the environment and the more worthwhile they are in terms of resources as a package
"Muh upgrade path for the sake of spending money"

If it works, it works.
Another one ruined by the "nice"
 
That's why you don't run Windows.
Muh Linux. Haven't heard that kneeslapper before! It isn't a big ask for people to upgrade their shit every 5-10 years. Prevents shit from actually dying on you. It's nice to not have to worry about a hard drive failure because everything is new. Fuck I don't even have a HDD, everything is M.2 and 1 SATA SSD.
 
Muh Linux. Haven't heard that kneeslapper before! It isn't a big ask for people to upgrade their shit every 5-10 years
Gotta remember there are people who don't use their PC very often, or who don't play anything that needs a lot of computing power.

An 8-year upgrade cycle is fine but again a lot of people only upgrade when they start having components fail.

Personally I think the ideal is to just upgrade in the middle of each RAM generation, so around 6 years.
 
Muh Linux. Haven't heard that kneeslapper before! It isn't a big ask for people to upgrade their shit every 5-10 years. Prevents shit from actually dying on you. It's nice to not have to worry about a hard drive failure because everything is new. Fuck I don't even have a HDD, everything is M.2 and 1 SATA SSD.
a hard drive? Like 1?
You know, you can upgrade hard drives without upgrading a motherboard or CPU. Those systems have no problems to this day saturating a 10Gbe link off their respective RAID arrays. If a job isn't CPU bound then there's no reason to upgrade.
Now, sure, when I upgrade my home network to 100G then it might be time for an upgrade, hopefully by then I can afford 100T usable of SSD instead of spinny disks too.
 
Gotta remember there are people who don't use their PC very often, or who don't play anything that needs a lot of computing power.

An 8-year upgrade cycle is fine but again a lot of people only upgrade when they start having components fail.

Personally I think the ideal is to just upgrade in the middle of each RAM generation, so around 6 years.
Have you had a PSU fry? Not fun. Got to inspect everything to see if anything else died. I say upgrade your shit out of kindness. When shit dies, it happens violently.
a hard drive? Like 1?
3 m.2, 1 SATA SSD.
You know, you can upgrade hard drives without upgrading a motherboard or CPU. Those systems have no problems to this day saturating a 10Gbe link off their respective RAID arrays. If a job isn't CPU bound then there's no reason to upgrade.
Now, sure, when I upgrade my home network to 100G then it might be time for an upgrade, hopefully by then I can afford 100T usable of SSD instead of spinny disks too.
You can but it's bullshit having to link up externally when you can link up internally. Everything linked up to the moba is nice. Also RAID is ass unless you're a data horder, at that point, lol.
 
I keep my computers running till they break. Currently in the process of sticking in a new M.2 of my laptop. I'll upgrade as long as I can before it burns out, because I hate transferring shit, that and I like what I paid for, imagine that!
Muh Linux. Haven't heard that kneeslapper before! It isn't a big ask for people to upgrade their shit every 5-10 years.
Ah, the duality of a man.
 
before it breaks
My 1060 has seen some awful abuse from my hands and it's still in perfect working condition. Hardware doesn't "break", it becomes dated. My 1060 became very dated so I upgraded it to a 3090. If someone feels like their rig is no longer up to snuff, they upgrade it. If they feel like their old Haswell rig is still sufficient, they don't. It really is that simple.
 
You can but it's bullshit having to link up externally when you can link up internally. Everything linked up to the moba is nice. Also RAID is ass unless you're a data horder, at that point, lol.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'external' or 'data horder'.
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And everything critical gets RAID. About all that doesn't is the local drive on the desktops and laptops because the important stuff is either backed up or on the servers. The boot drives on the servers are always RAID, obviously in addition to the data arrays.
 
And everything critical gets RAID.
Except RAID is not a backup. It's in the name, Redundant Array of Independent Disks. Redundancy. It's only there so that if one drive fails you can still serve whatever your server serves without downtime. In a home environment it should be treated as a sanity check, so that if a drive fails, at best you'll only have to rebuild from the remaining mirror instead of restoring an entire backup that may be outdated. But never as a backup.
 
Muh Linux. Haven't heard that kneeslapper before! It isn't a big ask for people to upgrade their shit every 5-10 years. Prevents shit from actually dying on you. It's nice to not have to worry about a hard drive failure because everything is new. Fuck I don't even have a HDD, everything is M.2 and 1 SATA SSD.

Linux is a much better server operating system than Windows.

Hardware doesn't "break",

Unless it's a PSU.
 
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