GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Again, that's an application it works for.

But, now people use it (and sff in general) as a test to see how much power they can cram into a stuffy metal box.
 

NVIDIA quietly introduces the GeForce GT 1010 — A Pascal GP108 GPU with 256 CUDA cores, 2 GB GDDR5 VRAM, and 55 W TDP​


Hello Pascal my old friend...

Notebookcheck.net is a good website for quick comparisons of different GPUs, they have extensive benchmarks unlike the other sites and also cover phone SoCs. Avoided buying a shit Xperia for €250 after looking into the SoC and finding out it was the same as could be found in €100 phones.
 
I saw that article. I wouldn't read too much into it. It's probably demanded by industrial customers, and being on 14nm Samsung, it's cheap and doesn't take up any of the Ampere capacity. The TechPowerUp entry says it's EOL already. A Notebookcheck commenter thinks it's not even real.

I guess if it is the right price, someone will get it just to have entry-level graphics or a display output. What is that price, $50? I see the GT 1030 going for around $85, which seems awful.

 
They can't even keep up supply of new cards and are re-releasing old ones? Fucking lol.
 
They can't even keep up supply of new cards and are re-releasing old ones? Fucking lol.
It's a very Intel move.

I saw some rumored pricing that was pure lol, the 2060 Super was priced above the 3060. That can't possibly be accurate but it would be funny.

In personal hardware news I just bought a €90 cooler to put on my €120 CPU and it didn't occur to me that it's a pretty lopsided thing to do.
 
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It's a very Intel move.

I saw some rumored pricing that was pure lol, the 2060 Super was priced above the 3060. That can't possibly be accurate but it would be funny.

In personal hardware news I just bought a €90 cooler to put on my €120 CPU and it didn't occur to me that it's a pretty lopsided thing to do.
Eh, at least it can carry over to future cpus. I put my $200 Ryzen 1600 under a custom loop, so talk about lopsided lol.
 
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Good coolers are worth it. They usually come with good fans that aren't loud and are usually also sizeable enough that the fan never has to spin up much to begin with. Companies like Noctua etc. are also very good at supporting future sockets for old heatsinks and will offer adapter kits for little money. I have such an expensive cooler I've now carried over three different systems.
 
Good coolers are worth it. They usually come with good fans that aren't loud and are usually also sizeable enough that the fan never has to spin up much to begin with. Companies like Noctua etc. are also very good at supporting future sockets for old heatsinks and will offer adapter kits for little money. I have such an expensive cooler I've now carried over three different systems.

Noctua coolers and fans are the shit. The fact that people still buy them over the competitions when they are literally the colour of puke and shit is testament to their quality.

My Ryzen 3700X has an Alpenfoehn Black Ridge cooler on it with a Noctua 92mm underneath and 120mm slim on top. Even their smallest CPU cooler, the Noctua L9a, is as good as the stock AMD Wraith Spire and that's three times the height.
 
They have black fans now. My brother was like, "You way overpaid for a cooler lolz". 70 bucks for a radiator and a fan (Noctua) for a 5600x. What, am I going to spend $25 on a fucking coolermaster or some shit? I may as well use the AMD stock cooler motherfucker.
 
If I was to ever go back into the air cooling game (probably never), I'd grab one of those black noctua coolers. As big as I could get.
 
Let me toss maybe a dumb question out there:

How do Be Quiet fans/coolers stack up against Noctuas? I've been considering them for a while for the next time I have to replace my case fans and cooler and, while I don't mind somewhat noisy fans, I've been curious what the quiet fan experience is like. Both brands seem to pride themselves on performance and quiet operation.
 
Both BeQuiet and Noctua have good fans, although I do prefer Noctua personally. I never disliked the color scheme of the Noctua fans and my cases are all closed up and don't have windows anyways, so I don't really care what they look like to begin with. The power supplies of BeQuiet are also very well made. I was surprised to find that some people never heard of BeQuiet over in the US at least a few years ago and suspected it to be some cheap Chinese brand but it's in fact a German company. (Noctua is an Austrian company btw.) BeQuiet had a problem with Chinese power supply counterfeits a while ago though.

The trick with Fans is and always will be to get the biggest fan possible. The bigger the fan is, the slower it can spin to transport the same amount of air. A 20 cm fan for example can transport a lot of air with an RPM in the low hundreds you'll be very pressed to hear even if holding your ear close if the fan is made well enough. Then it's a good idea to decouple the fans with rubber bolts that will optimally catch the vibration of the fan going into your case which causes the most noise with crappy fans. Noctua fans at least usually already have the rubber bolts included. That being said, good, proper working fans should not cause much vibration.

Then it's also a good idea to always get the somewhat more expensive PWM fans as long as your mainboard supports it (pretty much all do these days is my guess) as PWM fans are better to control in speed by the mainboard and are always supplied the same voltage. (Reduction of the speed of a PWM fan is reached by basically turning the motor on and off very quickly, this allows for very fine-grained control) Modern DC fans have become very, very good at running at low voltages but the PWM control method is in general smoother and more predictable, also not all Mainboards can control a fan by reducing voltage.

You can also gain a lot of quiet by creating noise profiles depending on the temperature in the case. Most modern computer firmware can do this. Many people put all their fans at full-tilt if temperatures go beyond 45C or so, but for such electronics, that's basically nothing. You can plan your limits with 60-80C in mind really, depending where. Ideally you want also a case that allows you to do good air cooling and install good fans. Not all cases are good. A case that can take the aforementioned 20cm fan is always preferable. In normal operation (non-gaming desktop stuff or light gaming) with a good CPU heatsink on an average 65W TDP CPU you should ideally be able to turn off some of your case fans completely and it's perfectly possible these days to have a computer that's completely inaudible in that operating mode and only gets somewhat louder with heavy gaming if you pick the right fans, heatsink and case.
 
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They have black fans now. My brother was like, "You way overpaid for a cooler lolz". 70 bucks for a radiator and a fan (Noctua) for a 5600x. What, am I going to spend $25 on a fucking coolermaster or some shit? I may as well use the AMD stock cooler motherfucker.

Like you, I choose Noctua CPU coolers, but the CoolerMaster 212 is an excellent value cooler that is much, much better than the stock cooler/fan.
 
It's a very Intel move.

I saw some rumored pricing that was pure lol, the 2060 Super was priced above the 3060. That can't possibly be accurate but it would be funny.

In personal hardware news I just bought a €90 cooler to put on my €120 CPU and it didn't occur to me that it's a pretty lopsided thing to do.
Obvious solution, you need to up to a $250 CPU. Problem solved
Good coolers are worth it. They usually come with good fans that aren't loud and are usually also sizeable enough that the fan never has to spin up much to begin with. Companies like Noctua etc. are also very good at supporting future sockets for old heatsinks and will offer adapter kits for little money. I have such an expensive cooler I've now carried over three different systems.
I have an OG coolermaster hyper 212+ from 2009. Still works great, and hasnt needed any updates to fit modern comet lake systems.
Noctua coolers and fans are the shit. The fact that people still buy them over the competitions when they are literally the colour of puke and shit is testament to their quality.

My Ryzen 3700X has an Alpenfoehn Black Ridge cooler on it with a Noctua 92mm underneath and 120mm slim on top. Even their smallest CPU cooler, the Noctua L9a, is as good as the stock AMD Wraith Spire and that's three times the height.
I love the 6 noctua industrial brown fans in my system, those things can FUCKING MOVE when asked to.
 
Does anyone know why they chose the cream color and beige for their fans? It is such a weirdo color combination I've never understood it. Even before the RGB craze, most case fans were black.
Like you, I choose Noctua CPU coolers, but the CoolerMaster 212 is an excellent value cooler that is much, much better than the stock cooler/fan.
I don't mean to shit over coolermaster or anything, they're good. I don't actually know if he would have given me one, but Noctua have such a good reputation and they're nice and quiet I don't need another loud fan. Not to mention my system is pretty much expensive so I don't really care about $30 extra when I went from a planned 3080 to a motherfucking 3090 Suprim.
Ampere is on 8nm Samsung, Turing is on 12nm TSMC. Making more Turing is like printing money right now.
I mean since I've found quite literally no fucking GPUs available anywhere, I guess having Turing back will get them some fat stacks because of how starved people are. It seems everyone and their mother is building a PC as quite literally every part increased in price, beyond shipping and manufacturing due to COVID.
 
Sounds like you could use some water-cooling, baller
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I'm way too paranoid and clumsy. I have destroyed a laptop hard drive by accidentally hitting it with my fist. I'd rather stick with air cooling cause I'm lazy and clumsy.
Nothing wrong with those. The Wraith Spire is perfectly adequate for any 4- or 6-core Ryzen and the Wraith Prism can handle the 8-cores with even some light overclocking.
I guess I'm more used to intel stock coolers being shit. I do want to do a bit of overclocking which is why I got the Noctua. I'm not crazy into overclocking, but I wasn't sure if the Wraith could do it. I'll keep the Wraith as an extra. This is my first AMD CPU so I'm not familiar with their stock fans, but it is nice to not have something like a 'K' to buy when I want to overclock.
 
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