Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

  • Total voters
    1,512
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Am I the only one that has a bad feeling that Chris will be let off with a slap on the wrist again?

Historically, every time Chris was about to be properly punished for his actions someone like the judge or the person Chris harmed takes pity on him and lets him off, emboldening him.

I know what Chris has done this time is infinitely worse than anything he's ever done, but I can easily see a group of normal people seeing the crazy man that believes he's a magic hedgehog and thinking he won't survive prison, so they give him community service or something.
 
Just a quick thing about asylums and why there were shut down-it wasn't because of bleeding heart liberals, or the book One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, or any stupid shit like that.

It was because they were like this.
That is undercover footage from inside the most highly regarded mental institution of the time, Willowbrook. You have people, most of them children, sitting in the dark, filthy, naked, screaming, shaking, and covered in their own feces, and vomit.

If that was what the best one in the nation looked like, just imagine how bad the others were.

Yeah.

What happened afterwards was that institions were supposed to be replaced with better, more humane ones, but that just never happened, and here we are today.

Just thought I'd clarify because holy shit, there was a fucking reason they were all shut down.
Yup, I always site Willowbrook as a pretty viable reason for Borb to be resistant to tard housing Chris. That came out in the mid-70s and still would’ve been pretty fresh in their minds when Chris was born. Today people love to say “they should’ve sent Chris to a special school for autism!!!”. Lemme tell ya, unlike today that shit was NOT readily available in the 80s and early 90s. Especially in rural Virginia. Most people’s introduction to autism was the movie Rainman. Before that, the spectrum was “dumb weird kid” or “retard”.

That said, Borb should’ve just drowned toddler Chris in the creek.
 
On the assumption that both if these retards are following their lawyers advice, the prosecutions evidence sounds something like this. "Yes so, an autistic woman online who also refused to be here and was in the process of a month long endeavor to defame this retard on purpose by tricking him into saying something weird got him to say he fucked his mom, the prosecution rests."
I might be misunderstanding what you are saying, but I can’t imagine that is the only evidence they have. I don't know if we ever confirmed if physical evidence was discovered, like unusual damage on Barb or used condoms. He couldn’t have been held this long solely on the basis of that call. If he's been being held on incest suspicion I would bet some other evidence exists aside from his words to Bella.
 
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Am I the only one that has a bad feeling that Chris will be let off with a slap on the wrist again?
I have serious doubts he's going to get out of this one easily. If he's been brought to a grand jury, that means that they're planning to charge him with at least one felony, which is almost certainly guaranteed, basically meaning he's going to prison if he does get charged.
 
No. This is the thing with Chris, he had sexual thoughts about his mother long before sonichu was discovered by the internet and before he went down his dark slippery slope into insanity. He's always had disturbed sexual thoughts and a warped perspective on women, his desperation is what made him finally do it not his delusions. That makes him dangerous and invalidates an insanity plea, he knew what he was doing and chose to do it.
this point needs to be highlighted more. seem plenty of people want to put the blame of his incest on more recent events and say it is the fault of trolls or his ever worsening mental health,but a quick glance through any reputable textbook on christory shows chris has long since had weird sexual thoughts towards barb. it isnt the trolls or the dimension merge, this is who chris truly is.
 
On the assumption that both if these retards are following their lawyers advice, the prosecutions evidence sounds something like this. "Yes so, an autistic woman online who also refused to be here and was in the process of a month long endeavor to defame this retard on purpose by tricking him into saying something weird got him to say he fucked his mom, the prosecution rests."
People following Chris are greatly overestimating Bella's importance and relevance in the court case. I know Bella's a degenerate that boils hamsters and wanted Chris to kill himself, but I guarantee she won't have any impact on the trial itself.
 
I have serious doubts he's going to get out of this one easily. If he's been brought to a grand jury, that means that they're planning to charge him with at least one felony, which is almost certainly guaranteed, basically meaning he's going to prison when he does get charged.
Incest is a class 5 felony so they were always going to charge him with a felony. However hes already served a year in jail and it's extremely unlikely he will get something like 5-10 years. Frankly if he got more than 3 I'd be shocked.


So being a felon sucks. For most people. But chris was already unemployible and forced to interact with the state regularly anyway. Even if he got convicted for 5 years hed be paroled in one. If he got 2-3 hed be paroled in 6 months.
 
Courtroom drawing of the hearing. (Allegedly)

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People following Chris are greatly overestimating Bella's importance and relevance in the court case. I know Bella's a degenerate that boils hamsters and wanted Chris to kill himself, but I guarantee she won't have any impact on the trial itself.
Well on that level I agree with you, because her recording is basically a non starter as evidence.

But without that, and with nobody on stand. What case exists? This is of course assuming barb isnt saying he raped her.
 
I have serious doubts he's going to get out of this one easily. If he's been brought to a grand jury, that means that they're planning to charge him with at least one felony, which is almost certainly guaranteed, basically meaning he's going to prison if he does get charged.
I still have doubts that a jury of normal people wouldn't immediately take pity on the retard manchild that wouldn't survive prison and let him off.

Well on that level I agree with you, because her recording is basically a non starter as evidence.

But without that, and with nobody on stand. What case exists? This is of course assuming barb isnt saying he raped her.
DNA evidence from the rape kit and potentially used condoms if they found any.
 
People following Chris are greatly overestimating Bella's importance and relevance in the court case. I know Bella's a degenerate that boils hamsters and wanted Chris to kill himself, but I guarantee she won't have any impact on the trial itself.

Considering that Chris dry-snitched on himself the only reason why I would see anyone from Christory involved in a court case would be if the validity of Chris' confession was put in question. Otherwise just a subpoena of Chris' phone records proving his number and the texts/calls came from him is really all that's needed anyway. Bella informing police of what Chris said would at most require a statement, unless there was a belief that she faked the confession.
Regardless, even if she did, but a police wellness check was still initiated and a cause for concern was still discovered, that false pretense doesn't necessarily negate what was actually discovered.
 
No. This is the thing with Chris, he had sexual thoughts about his mother long before sonichu was discovered by the internet and before he went down his dark slippery slope into insanity. He's always had disturbed sexual thoughts and a warped perspective on women, his desperation is what made him finally do it not his delusions. That makes him dangerous and invalidates an insanity plea, he knew what he was doing and chose to do it.
This. Chris always been fucked up, he would be the same if he didnt have this much publicity. Maybe a manwhore because of the lack of enablers money but still
 
People following Chris are greatly overestimating Bella's importance and relevance in the court case. I know Bella's a degenerate that boils hamsters and wanted Chris to kill himself, but I guarantee she won't have any impact on the trial itself.
I mean, she did make the call with Chris, which will likely be deemed as some sort of evidence. It would shock me if she wasn't called into question to some extent, to check if it matches up with any other evidence. I just wouldn't imagine her being a "witness" for the grand jury, since what she does all the way in Texas has little bearing on this case in Virginia.
 
Despite their name, rape kits only establish if sex occurred. While they do look for and document any physical trauma, that doesn't establish whether someone was raped. Rape is simply sex without consent, it may be violent and leave physical damage or it may not. Likewise, totally consensual sex can leave similar physical damage, especially if the participants are into kinky stuff or if some legitimate accident occurs.
Also it is an open and notorious fact that they often don't even process them (especially in hick jurisdictions) for months or even years, so there's no reason to think they even processed it until deciding to put Chris in front of a grand jury.
Am I the only one that has a bad feeling that Chris will be let off with a slap on the wrist again?
The "getting off with a slap on the wrist" was him walking out of jail yesterday. Apparently, that didn't happen, surprising the fuck out of everyone (including me) who thought that was what was going to happen.

The Teflon Tard's Teflon appears to have worn off.
 
As fucked as Chris is, the thing that kills me is that they deemed him fit to stand trial. This ensures he will land in jail/prison when he absolutely needs to be in a forever home for the tarded.
Most likely they assessed him and got him to answer simple questions like "what day is it"? "Who's the Presdient"? And stayed away from questions like, "what is the dimensional merge"?

The reason he went to the psych ward is probably he had a meltdown like the one he had at Bronycon or whatever that place was where he's curled up on the floor screaming and people are around him trying to calm him down. Maybe he thought he was getting out. Maybe he thought he could get a piece of cake for his birthday. Maybe Barb came to visit him and they wouldn't allow him to see her. We don't know why he was sent there and it's not like the people in charge of the jail or the crazy house are really interested in getting to the bottom of his reasons for being crazy. No. The jail wants for him to go to trial so they can clear up his cell for the next poor sap to show up and the crazy house wants him to be well enough to stand trial.

He actually turned down the plea deal? What the fuck is he thinking?
Chris doesn't think. If he did he wouldn't be in this mess.
 
Just a quick thing about asylums and why there were shut down-it wasn't because of bleeding heart liberals, or the book One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, or any stupid shit like that.

It was because they were like this.
That is undercover footage from inside the most highly regarded mental institution of the time, Willowbrook. You have people, most of them children, sitting in the dark, filthy, naked, screaming, shaking, and covered in their own feces, and vomit.

If that was what the best one in the nation looked like, just imagine how bad the others were.

Yeah.

What happened afterwards was that the institutions were supposed to be replaced with better, more humane ones, but that just never happened, and here we are today.

Just thought I'd clarify because holy shit, there was a fucking reason they were all shut down.
Just a quick thing about asylums and why there were shut down-it wasn't because of bleeding heart liberals, or the book One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, or any stupid shit like that.

It was because they were like this.
That is undercover footage from inside the most highly regarded mental institution of the time, Willowbrook. You have people, most of them children, sitting in the dark, filthy, naked, screaming, shaking, and covered in their own feces, and vomit.

If that was what the best one in the nation looked like, just imagine how bad the others were.

Yeah.

What happened afterwards was that the institutions were supposed to be replaced with better, more humane ones, but that just never happened, and here we are today.

Just thought I'd clarify because holy shit, there was a fucking reason they were all shut down.
Also, the Reagan administration changed the standard for being in a mental home from "unable to take care of yourself" to "a danger to yourself or others." An unfortunate side effect of that is now its much harder to get people sent to a facility.
 
The reason he went to the psych ward is probably he had a meltdown like the one he had at Bronycon or whatever that place was where he's curled up on the floor screaming and people are around him trying to calm him down.
That could be a reason for it, but it should also be noted they CAN put you into some kind of psychiatric care if you're deemed incompetent to stand trial for any reason, which according to Chris, he was. This doesn't necessarily mean that you're deemed mentally retarded or anything either, and it should be noted that one's mental state is irrelevant to being deemed "competent", it all depends on their state of mind during the proceedings. For all we know, Chris didn't freak out, and instead had to be educated on how serious his position really was, and how he shouldn't constantly be talking dimensions or getting his toys back during the court hearings.
 
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As fucked as Chris is, the thing that kills me is that they deemed him fit to stand trial. This ensures he will land in jail/prison when he absolutely needs to be in a forever home for the tarded.
Unless he's gibbering, shitting himself, and having constant seizures, he's fit to stand trial. The standard is very, very low.
 
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