Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

  • Total voters
    1,512
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I have to agree with the autistic lawyer that I would personally gladly take jury duty, but unless I lied I would be immediately struck for cause.
I think it would be fun and interesting for sure, but if you get like 10 days of combined PTO and sick time annually, spending the entirety on that isn’t worth it for me. It's funny that the states on the list of those that don't require the employer to pay for jury duty time are lefty states like California and Washington. I would have expected someone to lobby against making employees foot the cost of government mandated service time in those states.
 
There is no Chris factor, you are as delusional as chris is and should go outside for a little bit today if you think anyone in the court system cares about chris chan. He isn't special, he isn't even interesting. In the court system he is the thousandth schizo idiot they are dealing with this week alone. They probably really are annoyed that there are like 20-50 weens desperately calling them putting on retarded fake voices and trying to get information about the case, but beyond that this is business as usual for them. If you think the local police knew who he was upon picking him up and really considered his internet fame, then I have some amazing investment opportunities I would love to sell you on because you're a total idiot.
I'll give you Chris is weird enough to be mildly interesting to the jaded courtroom drones. After all "he's Internet Famous"
 
My original point still stands: Chris is seen as unfit by the jury and is sent to a mental hospital/ facility. They find they can’t help him even with the advances is medical science. That leaves one option; return to the classics with an ice pick to the brain. Then just create and internet plug-in to block all mentions of old Chris and sonichu and then maintain observation over him to see any repeating patterns. Electro shock as necessary for tuneups. I’m just saying I’m a doctor not a miracle worker.
 
I’m telling you guys this is not going to end well for him. Last year I was selected as juror for a child abuse case where the mother drags him in a hallway and would even bite her child on his shoulders and bottom as he was naked at the time. After the trial all of us were speaking with her defense attorney and she explained that she rejected the insanity plea and go ahead and take this trial. Unfortunately things didn’t go as planned for her and she ended up getting the guilty verdict. However, her attorney also explained to us that she was mentally Ill and it was her first time getting arrested despite her having a good job. Unfortunately they cannot bring it to the jury that she’s suffering from mental illnesses as a defense since we can only rely on the evidence being presented and determine if she actually did abuse her kid intentionally.

So in other words, Chris cannot bring up the fact that he is mentally Ill, being a troll target for more than a decade, or that Barb abused him all his life since people are going to present the jury with the evidence that he admitted of doing those crimes as well as evaluations for both Chris and Barb. What Chris did was a fatal mistake and there’s no way that he’s gonna be determined not guilty.
Virginia actually passed a law allowing mentally ill people to use mental illness as a mitigating factor in their defense, and even if that wasn't true, Chris is so obviously unwell that any person that passed jury selection would immediately clock him as a lunatic who isn't all there.

Nick Bate, I think.

Don’t count your chickens.
Plenty have but Nick is unique in getting a very harsh sentence (for what he did, not so harsh IMO, but 40 years is a long time). Jonathan Yaniv has been getting his ass pounded in court recently, Ethan Ralph has been convicted of multiple felonies, Tommy Tooter did prison time. Even Chris has been convicted of crimes before, he was just handled with kid gloves until now. That's just the cows that have their own subforums.
 
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That's good advice for any actual human reading this thread, but you're telling it to someone who is either missing chromosomes or has extra ones. He won't understand what you're saying. Because he's fucking retarded. Everyone else should definitely read that post though, it's the best legal commentary you can get for free on an autist forum.
Trying to direct the retards to the FAQ is as futile an endeavor as null trying to tard guard Chris, but if I can prevent just one retard from making the same goddamn bullshit NGRI post, maybe it's worth it.
 
Virginia actually passed a law allowing mentally ill people to use mental illness as a mitigating factor in their defense, and even if that wasn't true, Chris is so obviously unwell that any person that passed jury selection would immediately clock him as a lunatic who isn't all there.
Nope. He went through a litany of psych evaluations this time around and still got felony charges and a referral to a grand jury to charge him. Like every. single. other. psych evaluation he's got, they've all come up with sane. The grand jury is going to see those reports, and if it is a jury trial, the prosecution is going to bring that up. There's a mountain of evidence that Chris is sane when it comes to this, so Heilberg has a real uphill battle to convince the judge, and whoever else, that Chris is mentally ill enough to warrant no charges or a one way trip to the loony bin.

It's a common mistake newbies to Chris make. They see him dancing around on camera, making fart noises and claiming to talk to magic hedgehogs, maybe even convincing themselves that nefarious trolls "set him up" in some nebulous conspiracy, but at the end of the day, what's going on right now boils down to Chris just wanting pussy.
 
Nope. He went through a litany of psych evaluations this time around and still got felony charges and a referral to a grand jury to charge him. Like every. single. other. psych evaluation he's got, they've all come up with sane. The grand jury is going to see those reports, and if it is a jury trial, the prosecution is going to bring that up. There's a mountain of evidence that Chris is sane when it comes to this, so Heilberg has a real uphill battle to convince the judge, and whoever else, that Chris is mentally ill enough to warrant no charges or a one way trip to the loony bin.

It's a common mistake newbies to Chris make. They see him dancing around on camera, making fart noises and claiming to talk to magic hedgehogs, maybe even convincing themselves that nefarious trolls "set him up" in some nebulous conspiracy, but at the end of the day, what's going on right now boils down to Chris just wanting pussy.
I'm not advocating for a NGRI, that is retarded. I'm just pointing out that Chris/Heilberg can use that Chris is mentally ill as a mitigating factor in his defense for a lighter sentence under Virginia law. In some states, being mentally ill but not to the point of being incompetent to stand trial/NGRI cannot be invoked in a defense but in Virginia it's still allowed to be introduced as a mitigating factor during sentencing. In some states you can't tell a jury that a defendant is mentally ill at all.

Chris is absolutely sane in the eyes of the law, but his mental illness can factor into his defense per VA law.

Please do not confuse me with one of the retards who thinks Chris is trying to get off with an insanity plea. I am slightly less dumb than most of those posters, thank you very much.
 
It's a common mistake newbies to Chris make. They see him dancing around on camera, making fart noises and claiming to talk to magic hedgehogs, maybe even convincing themselves that nefarious trolls "set him up" in some nebulous conspiracy, but at the end of the day, what's going on right now boils down to Chris just wanting pussy.
Also it is all deep down irrelevant if Chris truly believes himself to be Jesus Hernandez Christ in the flesh, that Sonichu is real and all that other fantastic nonsense. It really has no bearing on the fact that he ducked his mom. You can genuinely believe in all sorts of crazy things and still be legally responsible for your actions.

Like if a schizo down the street shoots up a convenience store for drug and booze money - whatever crazy shit he’s into on the side doesn’t absolve him from the crime that was motivated for “sane” reasons - and we know that Chris was motivated, as you said, by that sweet Barbussy.
 
I'm not advocating for a NGRI, that is retarded. I'm just pointing out that Chris/Heilberg can use that Chris is mentally ill as a mitigating factor in his defense for a lighter sentence under Virginia law. In some states, being mentally ill but not to the point of being incompetent to stand trial/NGRI cannot be invoked in a defense but in Virginia it's still allowed to be introduced as a mitigating factor during sentencing. In some states you can't tell a jury that a defendant is mentally ill at all.

Chris is absolutely sane in the eyes of the law, but his mental illness can factor into his defense per VA law.

Please do not confuse me with one of the retards who thinks Chris is trying to get off with an insanity plea. I am slightly less dumb than most of those posters, thank you very much.
To quote mental illness as a factor when arguing regarding anything in court i'm sure you'll need a doctor's report/diagnosis to prove it. Complaining about being "stressed by trolls" doesn't count for anything in the legal world. The full report on Chris' condition from the mental hospital will probably be the primary medical report used in the trial, and there's no doubt the Prosecution and Defence already have copies.
 
To quote mental illness as a factor when arguing regarding anything in court i'm sure you'll need a doctor's report/diagnosis to prove it. Complaining about being "stressed by trolls" doesn't count for anything in the legal world. The full report on Chris' condition from the mental hospital will probably be the primary medical report used in the trial, and there's no doubt the Prosecution and Defence already have copies.
Troll stress doesn't count in the real world either. Taints crossed that we get to hear some slivers of information about Chris' mental health.
 
My original point still stands: Chris is seen as unfit by the jury and is sent to a mental hospital/ facility. They find they can’t help him even with the advances is medical science. That leaves one option; return to the classics with an ice pick to the brain. Then just create and internet plug-in to block all mentions of old Chris and sonichu and then maintain observation over him to see any repeating patterns. Electro shock as necessary for tuneups. I’m just saying I’m a doctor not a miracle worker.
That's not how a grand jury works, they just look at the facts of the case. Literally all a grand jury does is decide if there's enough evidence to charge someone with a crime, that's it.

Chris went to the mental hospital to reestablish that he's competent to stand trial, which he is. As stupid and delusional as Chris is, he's not insane. He knows that fuckin Barb was wrong and actively took steps to hide what he was doing.
 
That's not how a grand jury works, they just look at the facts of the case. Literally all a grand jury does is decide if there's enough evidence to charge someone with a crime, that's it.

Chris went to the mental hospital to reestablish that he's competent to stand trial, which he is. As stupid and delusional as Chris is, he's not insane. He knows that fuckin Barb was wrong and actively took steps to hide what he was doing.
*slight tweak that you may know but others might not - the grand jury looks at what the state presents as evidence (witnesses, documentary evidence, etc.) to decide if there is probable cause to believe a crime occurred and that the defendant committed it. Typically there is no counter-evidence nor challenge by the defense to any evidence presented by the state, and typically a defendant does not testify. The state questions its witnesses, and the jurors may also ask questions. They have limited investigative powers and generally just move forward on the basis of the state's presentation.
 
Trying to direct the retards to the FAQ is as futile an endeavor as null trying to tard guard Chris, but if I can prevent just one retard from making the same goddamn bullshit NGRI post, maybe it's worth it.
I agree because while trying to wise up the absolute mongo you were talking to is an exercise in futility, it's a really good FAQ and literally everyone should read it. Someone who isn't retarded and wasn't shitting up the thread with their chromosomal deficiencies probably did go read it. And they should.

Everyone should read this.

And if you do you will now know more about criminal procedure than most people on the fake news telling the public about it know.
 
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