Grand Jury speculation thread

[FinnSven]

The judge is on everyone's side and nobody's side. he's supposed to be impartial. The prosecution is on Greene County's side, and will not do good things for Chris at the expense of the county.

That doesn't mean the prosecutor is a monster who wants to mercilessly inflict pain on Chris. He could even be merciful. We don't know. However if a good outcome for Chris reduces the chance of him being inflicted upon Greene County again, then the prosecutor would be wise to work with the defense to achieve it.

Basically there's two ways to make Chris into not-Greene-County's problem.

1. Fuck Chris as hard as possible and lock him away for 10 years and hope he manages to die before he gets out. This would get rid of Chris but would cost Virginia a lot of money to imprison him, but more importantly Chris' attorney will fight it tooth and nail, leading to the big public tard trial in circuit court that weens so want to see.

2. Give Chris a small reasonable sentence that has the least lasting damage, while working to make sure he's placed somewhere where he will not be Greene County's problem. By looking out for Chris' interests, Chris' lawyer will not fight back and instead try to make it as smooth as possible, and thus make everything cheaper, less stressful, and less public.

By on his side I mean it seems like they all appear to want to resolve this without making Chris’s life worse.

Pushing him into a suitable home or care environment which should have been done years ago is probably the single best thing anyone has ever done for him.

 

[King Kiwi]

By on his side I mean it seems like they all appear to want to resolve this without making Chris’s life worse.

Pushing him into a suitable home or care environment which should have been done years ago is probably the single best thing anyone has ever done for him.

I agree with you on the first part, but is anyone really going to do anything that cost a lot of money on the second part?

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

2. Give Chris a small reasonable sentence that has the least lasting damage, while working to make sure he's placed somewhere where he will not be Greene County's problem. By looking out for Chris' interests, Chris' lawyer will not fight back and instead try to make it as smooth as possible, and thus make everything cheaper, less stressful, and less public.

What would happen if Chris was completely unrepentant and absolutely not remorseful after the year's up, and said as so to the court? Throwing a tantrum because he can't go back to 14 Branchland or see Barb?

 

[Shanndog]

i just found out yesterday that chris has a court date set for july, yeah, this summer ! so, until then, here he sits in jail, which, at least he is locked up and not causing problems for the community.

 

[Thumb Butler]

Really? By then the house could easily be emptied and sold.

 

[silentium]

What would happen if Chris was completely unrepentant and absolutely not remorseful after the year's up, and said as so to the court? Throwing a tantrum because he can't go back to 14 Branchland or see Barb?

The court would collectively shrug and tell Chris that actions have consequences. Unless he somehow manages to revoke his own guilty plea which Heilberg will *not* give him a chance to do

 

[Optimus Prime]

What would happen if Chris was completely unrepentant and absolutely not remorseful after the year's up, and said as so to the court? Throwing a tantrum because he can't go back to 14 Branchland or see Barb?

Not a lawyer but I would expect he would be immediately slapped with 'contempt of court' by the judge, though if it would be anything meaningful isn't certain given Chris literally has lost everything besides his life at this point.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

He's listening to that Pop channel he used to listen to in his car, it's essentially modern top of the pops and yesterdays pop songs and a little light banter but nothing in the way of real news just traffic updates or emergency information etc.

I just hope the COs get a glimpse of Chris gyrating and bellowing along to Britney Spears, "Pretty Girls" while fondling his hairy moobs.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Barb will be dead by the time Chris gets out.

 

[Ghost Got Double Dipped]

I called the courthouse. The next hearing is
July 28

Wow, he'll have spent almost a while year in jail by then. No wonder Chris is so nutty now, he's been separated from his toys and video games for so long, those were the closest things he has to ground him to reality in a weird way.

 

[Ophelia]

I agree with you on the first part, but is anyone really going to do anything that cost a lot of money on the second part?

The tugboat might determine what happens.

What would happen if Chris was completely unrepentant and absolutely not remorseful after the year's up, and said as so to the court? Throwing a tantrum because he can't go back to 14 Branchland or see Barb?

He’d have to do something really extreme. They’ve seen people like Chris in court before.

 

[A-№1]

Imagine being faced with charges resulting in up to a year in jail, and getting off without a conviction, but still spending a year in jail all the same.

Imagine being the neighbor across the street thinking you were finally rid of him.

Of course Chris will consider losing all his toys to be the real punishment. Also losing 14BLC, but in this hypothetical that would be for Tom and Harriet to decide, not the court.

Letting Chris get away scot free is about the worst thing the court could do to him.

The truth is that Chris is basically in jail voluntarily, for his own safety, even if he doesn't realize it.

Receiving free housekeeping, room, and board all on the taxpayer's dime.

It's an old hobo trick: getting arrested in the fall and sitting out the winter months in a nice, warm jail. Chris just managed to do it unintentionally.

So basically the courts, defense and even the prosecution are all on Chris’s side?

It makes more sense when you realize Chris is not a competition in need of a victor. He's a problem in need of a solution.

By on his side I mean it seems like they all appear to want to resolve this without making Chris’s life worse.

Making Chris' life worse does not solve the problem.

One of the main reasons behind punishment is to make an example of the punished so that others don't make the same mistakes. Nobody needs to be reminded to not be like Chris.

is anyone really going to do anything that cost a lot of money on the second part?

It will mostly be paid out of his tugboat, which he would be getting anyways. Speaking for the taxpayers, we'd much rather not be wasting money on Chris at all, but if we have to drop $1.2k down that particular rat hole every month, we'd much rather it go to somewhere that keeps him off the streets and away from the public than see it wasted on "some lego".

What would happen if Chris was completely unrepentant and absolutely not remorseful after the year's up, and said as so to the court? Throwing a tantrum because he can't go back to 14 Branchland or see Barb?

That's what bailiffs are for.

If he persists in bad behavior, such as continuing to attempt returning to 14BLC after being trespassed, he'll end up right back in Green County Jail and another court case. This time he likely wouldn't have Heilberg saving his high functioning ass.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

That's what bailiffs are for.

If he persists in bad behavior, such as continuing to attempt returning to 14BLC after being trespassed, he'll end up right back in Green County Jail and another court case. This time he likely wouldn't have Heilberg saving his high functioning ass.

I mean in terms of at the final hearing. If Chris just doesn't care about anything and just wants to get out, makes some comments, claims he's not remorseful, happy he "healed Barb", etc... How would the judge react to that?

 

[Ophelia]

I mean in terms of at the final hearing. If Chris just doesn't care about anything and just wants to get out, makes some comments, claims he's not remorseful, happy he "healed Barb", etc... How would the judge react to that?

The judge didn’t really seem to care when he was petulant and rude at the Snyder hearing, iirc.

 

[Ser Ciappelletto]

The judge didn’t really seem to care when he was petulant and rude at the Snyder hearing, iirc.

He also corrected the judge on his gender pronouns at the October hearing and the judge just let him whine like a baby.

 

[ChrisIsGay]

He also corrected the judge on his gender pronouns at the October hearing and the judge just let him whine like a baby.

You left out the part when the Judge denied Chris bail and is making him sit in jail for almost a year.

 

[Ophelia]

You left out the part when the Judge denied Chris bail and is making him sit in jail for almost a year.

That’s not the judge being vindictive. I refer you to the faq.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I mean in terms of at the final hearing. If Chris just doesn't care about anything and just wants to get out, makes some comments, claims he's not remorseful, happy he "healed Barb", etc... How would the judge react to that?

Heilberg will have to do everything in his power to keep Chris shut up.

If I were him, I'd try to have Chris not even be present. For a misdemeanor in Virginia, with the permission of the court, a defendant can have his attorney enter the plea for them, as long as the attorney is there in person.

The only question is if the judge would allow them to do that, or if the prosecutor would agree to a deal where Chris isn't shown the resolution to his face.

 

[A-№1]

How would the judge react to that?

The whole point of Chris having a lawyer is to have someone to speak for him to the judge. Unless Chris is on the stand or asked a direct question, the Judge will be dealing with Heilberg. Heilberg will definitely NOT let Chris forego his right to remain silent, even if Chris isn't actually silent. And if Chris physically chimps out, well, again, that's what bailiffs are for.

Technically Chris could waive his right to representation or do or say any one of a number of things that would fuck himself over, but that's very unlikely. Instead he'll babble on about pronouns and dimensional merges and other bullshit that will be ignored while the adults handle things.


Edit:

Heilberg will have to do everything in his power to keep Chris shut up.

This. Heilberg is no fool.

The only question is if the judge would allow them to do that, or if the prosecutor would agree to a deal where Chris isn't shown the resolution to his face.

I think they would be OK with it. I mean nobody wants to spend any more time in a closed room with Chris than they absolutely have to.

Edit:

I refer you to the faq.

All glory to the FAQ.

So much easier than answering questions.

 

[Hepativore]

I am not sure how I feel about this. I do find this whole situation morbidly fascinating as to what is going to happen to somebody like Chris from a legal standpoint.

On the other hand Chris just basically threw his life away by taking advantage of Barb. He did not have much of one to begin with, but this is the final nail in the coffin for him in this regard and all of Null's efforts came to nothing, and I doubt any sort of convention (except furries, maybe) is going to allow him in, even if he does not end up in an institution after getting out of jail as word of his charges have gotten out quickly.

While I do think he should be put somewhere to be managed for the rest of his life, this is a rather sad ending to the entertaining idiot who drew badly drawn Sonichu comics a few years back.