Grand Jury speculation thread

[D_Tractor]

They will no doubt bring up past offenses of Chris to the grand jury, not what we know as the forum mind you, the actual criminal offenses he's made, his 3 strikes are up now it's time for him to leave the home plate.

Prior offenses will not come up until sentencing, assuming it goes to trial. Nips who are ignorant of the US legal system have a right and duty to remain silent.

 

[troon patrol]

They will no doubt bring up past offenses of Chris to the grand jury, not what we know as the forum mind you, the actual criminal offenses he's made, his 3 strikes are up now it's time for him to leave the home plate.

There are a surprisingly complicated set of rules for when a previous crime can be brought up. His violent convictions may not be relevant in the eyes of the law or judge rather. Typically it has to be a similar crime, sexual assault is hardly new to Chris but legally it could be considered a new low for him.

 

[thegooddoctor]

Sorry to kinda necro this thread but given the new letters that have come out I gotta say;

I speculate the courts aren't planning on going easy on him. Going by how...scared chris is starting to sound in his letters. It seems like the system is planning to crack down on chris hard this time. In two days we'll know for sure but as the magic 8 balls once said; outlook not so good.

I don’t think so, he’s already served an entire year and I think Pointless Sperg said himself even for his expansive history he won’t get anything within the vicinity of up to five years at max, remember Chris’s charges are not heinous in the grand scheme. If we remove the crime of emotional abuse from forcing yourself onto emotionally vulnerable victim, Chris simply did something disgusting, and last time I checked being disgusting is not a crime to any degree.

 

[PsychoNerd054]

I don’t think so, he’s already served an entire year and I think Pointless Sperg said himself even for his expansive history he won’t get anything within the vicinity of up to five years at max, remember Chris’s charges are not heinous in the grand scheme. If we remove the crime of emotional abuse from forcing yourself onto emotionally vulnerable victim, Chris simply did something disgusting, and last time I checked being disgusting is not a crime to any degree.

Being disgusting is what Chris is all about. It just so happens one of the disgusting things he did was illegal in his state.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Might be something, might not, but it looks like Chris has a hearing scheduled for the day after his case gets looked at by the Grand Jury

 

[Pointless Sperg]

There's no reason for him to plead until the grand jury returns a true bill, because it might not. The Circuit Court is a court of general jurisdiction that can do anything up to throw him in prison for life without parole. Or give him a lengthy suspended sentence so he immediately goes back to serve it if he fucks up (which he obviously will).

Only life if he's indicted for rape. I doubt the grand jury will increase the charges but we'll know for sure within a couple of days.

Realistically even if he's convicted of rape, they're not going to give the tard life. A request for mercy due to his retardation would at least net him a shorter sentence. Though if he does catch a rape charge the odds of him getting civil commitment after he completes his sentence becomes not out of the realm of possibility, due to the relaxed standards.

They will no doubt bring up past offenses of Chris to the grand jury, not what we know as the forum mind you, the actual criminal offenses he's made, his 3 strikes are up now it's time for him to leave the home plate.

None of his previous offenses qualify as a strike, as none of them have been grievous, violent felonies. He's been convicted of misdemeanor failure to stop for an accident, and misdemeanor assault. Even if he'd been convicted of felony failure to stop, and felony gas discharge (gamestop initial charge), neither of them are strikes.

 

[AnOminous]

Realistically even if he's convicted of rape, they're not going to give the tard life.

True but I was just describing the scope of the jurisdiction of a court of general jurisdiction, as opposed to the drastically limited jurisdiction Chris has been facing up until now.

The main difference for Chris is probably that they now have far greater latitude in what they can offer as a plea bargain, such as keeping Chris permanently away from Barb and 14 BC. Or as a sentence if he is dumb enough to take this to trial.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I don’t think so, he’s already served an entire year and I think Pointless Sperg said himself even for his expansive history he won’t get anything within the vicinity of up to five years at max, remember Chris’s charges are not heinous in the grand scheme. If we remove the crime of emotional abuse from forcing yourself onto emotionally vulnerable victim, Chris simply did something disgusting, and last time I checked being disgusting is not a crime to any degree.

Had...sex...with...his...own...mother!

Who was NOT in any sound minded state to consent to it. The only way it could be worse is if Chris was having sex with an 8 year old relative as opposed to an 80 year old one.
He'll be lucky of they have enough pity on him to spare him rape charges. Not to mention possible elder abuse, neglect, reckless endangerment, animal abuse /neglect given the animal hoarding conditions.

 

[mindlessobserver]

True but I was just describing the scope of the jurisdiction of a court of general jurisdiction, as opposed to the drastically limited jurisdiction Chris has been facing up until now.

The main difference for Chris is probably that they now have far greater latitude in what they can offer as a plea bargain, such as keeping Chris permanently away from Barb and 14 BC. Or as a sentence if he is dumb enough to take this to trial.

They have to know there is zero chance Chris will fulfill any parole or suspended sentence obligations.

 

[LargeChoonger]

If it comes to a verdict of 10 years, will there be a chance Chris goes hedgehog defense mode in the middle of the courtroom?

There should be an "I fucking hope" react that's the optimistic rainbow but faint and blurry

I didn't see anything about this in the FAQ, so is Chris's newest letter, or the letters in general, eligible to be entered as evidence against him in the coming hearing or potential trial afterwards? Or does it amount to something like hearsay?

 

[AnOminous]

They have to know there is zero chance Chris will fulfill any parole or suspended sentence obligations.

That's why it's a good thing this is going in front of a grand jury, because now they can condition any plea bargain such that the instant he fucks up, he just goes straight back behind bars and stays there, probably until after Barb is dead. Remember all those things people were hoping would happen earlier, like a permanent injunction keeping him from 14 BC and Barb?

That couldn't have happened if this had pled out then. It can now.

 

[Tinten]

Pardon me, but is the August 8th convening still relevant? if so..

 

[Cherenkovblue]

None of his previous offenses qualify as a strike, as none of them have been grievous, violent felonies. He's been convicted of misdemeanor failure to stop for an accident, and misdemeanor assault. Even if he'd been convicted of felony failure to stop, and felony gas discharge (gamestop initial charge), neither of them are strikes.

Since everyone here has a problem with reading: None of these are qualified felonies with respect to Virginia's three strikes law. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trolling or slow-in-the-mind.

 

[A Grey Cat]

They have to know there is zero chance Chris will fulfill any parole or suspended sentence obligations.

Don't count that out just yet. Chris is an idiot and a retard but he can follow directions...Usually if it means getting something he wants but the threat of further punishment never hurt either. Aside smoking weed with the teen troon squad and trespassing back during the therapeutic docket days (which he is NOT going to be put on now if anything Chris is an example of why programs like the docket dont work) he more or less followed what they told him to do. Attend his therapy and stay out of trouble. Question is what if any terms of a probation the court has in mind.They'll definitely be a lot stricter than what region 10 entailed.

 

[Hot HOT HOTTT]

His mental illness should be used as an exacerbating factor by the prosecution tbh. He's dangerous because of it. The last jail letter really annihilated any shred of lingering sympathy I had for this absolute sack of trash.

And yeah it blows my goddamn mind that people still post about an insanity defense when there's a pinned FAQ detailing why that's bullshit and literally thousands of pages of discussion, who the fuck comes to a forum and doesn't read the posts on the topic being discussed?

Chris posted on this forum, as did many other exceptional people of interest, therefore it should come as no surprise that we have some genuine retards here. It's a guarantee.

The worst part is, IMO, is that those known exceptional individuals are probably not even at the metaphorical Mariana Trench of logic and reasoning when it comes to "members" of this "community." Much like in the case of Chris himself, there is always a lower point which can be reached.

 

[Bassomatic]

I'm truly sad I won't be there when the judge sends him to the chair and yells ZAP TO THE EXTREME

 

[Pointless Sperg]

They have to know there is zero chance Chris will fulfill any parole or suspended sentence obligations.

The problem is controlling Chris' impulsiveness. He regularly does things that he didn't intend to do, because something he wants *right now* overrides his behavior and makes him not think about the consequences.

It's like trying to be on a diet but then you get hungry and a triple cheeseburger is plopped in front of you. A lot of people's judgement gets crippled in that situation, and for Chris it's much, much worse. Any plans or promises Chris makes are the equivalent of a normal person telling themselves that yeah, they'll go to the gym twice a week as part of their new year's resolution.

For it to be successful, Chris must be reminded of the consequences. For instance if you want him to stay away from 14BC, it would help if he had an ankle monitor that started beeping loudly when he got close to the neighborhood.

Chris is a coward and fears consequences, but only when he's thinking about them.

 

[A-№1]

Or as a sentence if he is dumb enough to take this to trial.

Oh he's dumb enough.

The real question is this: is Heilberg a good enough tard wrangler to stop him?

 

[D_Tractor]

Prior offenses will not come up until sentencing, assuming it goes to trial. Nips who are ignorant of the US legal system have a right and duty to remain silent.

I may have been wrong but I can't edit or delete this post. Please ignore or give "dumb".

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

So much confusion and misinformation in this thread.

Here's a breakdown between jail and prison and the levels of security in prison.

This dude's spent like 15 years in and out of both (was a big time jewel thief/burglar in his youth with the mob) and his videos are very informative about life in the big house.