Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

[The Last Stand]

You say that like GTA III was R*'s first game or if III was 'the first GTA'.

No, but GTA III set the standard for R* to pay homage to crime dramas, shows and movies while creating something original.

Did you even read the instruction manual for III? No one who read the first pages of The Liberty Tree would say III takes itself seriously.

Yes, I have. A) The Liberty Tree articles were pre-release marketing to set up Liberty City for GTA III's upcoming release. It wasn't featured in the manual. B) I said the story for GTA III was played straight. The comedic satirical elements from III were reserved for ped dialogue, radio ads and its in-game branding.

It is the most pulp of all the 3D/HD games and was made by a DMA Design that wasn't restricted by Take-Two in what they could and couldn't say.

Sure. III's writing and cinematic direction was influenced by several crime films. Goodfellas, The Godfather, even Pulp Fiction. IYKYK. I'm not even saying III was the greatest story ever told, but compared to its predecessors, it had more seriousness in it that didn't clash with the open world freedom of being a mute in a city as dark, grim and depressing as Liberty City.

It's not impossible to have serious topics and comedic elements at once.

 

[Would]

No, but GTA III set the standard for R* to pay homage to crime dramas, shows and movies while creating something original.

Somebody didn't play GTA 2.

B) I said the story for GTA III was played straight. The comedic satirical elements from III were reserved for ped dialogue, radio ads and its in-game branding.

That's... every GTA game.

Sure. III's writing and cinematic direction was influenced by several crime films. Goodfellas, The Godfather, even Pulp Fiction. IYKYK.

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...you don't know what 'pulp' means, do you?
Look at it's artwork, remember the main plot and theme, then go google some pulp magazines.

compared to its predecessors, it had more seriousness in it that didn't clash with the open world freedom of being a mute in a city as dark, grim and depressing as Liberty City.

Bro, I can't.
You think a moody city = seriousness.
The Triads are about as grounded as the Zaibatsu.

 

[The Last Stand]

Somebody didn't play GTA 2.

Correct. What is your point?

The Triads are about as grounded as the Zaibatsu.

Again, what is your point that I’m missing?

 

[Would]

Correct. What is your point?

GTA III didn't set the standard for shit in terms of homages or writing for the franchise, which you seem hellbent on saying it did because you never played anything prior.

Again, what is your point that I’m missing?

I can't help you if you don't understand. Play the older games and reread these posts or move on.

 

[The Last Stand]

I can't help you if you don't understand. Play the older games and reread these posts or move on.

I don’t necessarily need to play GTA 1 or 2 to understand R*’s pedigree or style in media homage with GTA.

GTA 2’s premise was influenced by apocalyptic movies from the 70s and 80s, with a near future vibe the 60s envisioned. (I know I linked GTA2 here a while back talking about its development.” I’ll give you grace and say that R*’s cult culture influences since III was more pronounced.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

It's interesting to find out that they were halfway through developing the secret agent Trevor DLC before they realized it just didn't work and they scrapped it and the other DLC in favor of working on RDR2. It doesn't sound like GTA Online was the actual motivator to abandon it at all.

Also, they went through like 5 different iterations of Agent and just realized they didn't know how to make an open world spy game.

 

[The Last Stand]

It's interesting to find out that they were halfway through developing the secret agent Trevor DLC before they realized it just didn't work and they scrapped it and the other DLC in favor of working on RDR2. It doesn't sound like GTA Online was the actual motivator to abandon it at all.

Where did you find that out? I heard about a recent Dan Houser interview.

Speaking of which:



Perhaps Bulgarian would've finished him off with Dimitri? Good call, because the story is centered around Niko.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

Found it.

Two hours and forty-five minutes of Dan Houser being interviewed about his role in GTA/Red Dead and his future endeavors for Absurd Ventures. This will be meaty.

Bro I posted it like two days ago

 

[The Last Stand]

Bro I posted it like two days ago

I knew I forgot something.

Okay, let me provide something else.

I found a couple sources about GTA Advance's development. GTA Advance was initially conceptualized and announced as GTA III on the GBA. Not a straight port/conversion like how GTA 1 and 2 were for the Game Boy Color, but rather a side story before the events of GTA 3.

It was shuffled through two developers, Destination Software and Crawfish Interactive, before given to Digital Eclipse to ultimately make GTA Advance. Destination Software's project was canned for unknown reasons, Crawfish's project went further in development from screenshots, story details, even unfinished multiplayer.

Crawfish developers states that the story would've been about a mafia made guy chasing a mafia deflector. Digital Eclipse insisted that Crawfish's work was returned to them or Rockstar and Advance was completely new from the ground up.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

That is interesting. I remember GTA Advance originally being listed as just GTA III for GBA in a few magazines never knew there was more to it.

 

[The Last Stand]

That is interesting. I remember GTA Advance originally being listed as just GTA III for GBA in a few magazines never knew there was more to it.

I forget that you're an OG in the GTA franchise. Yes, it was announced, then quietly canceled and rebooted as GTA Advance.

Digital Eclipse and Rockstar were eager to push the GBA to its limits. Rockstar even suggested isometric 3D but knew that wouldn't be possible. So, Digital Eclipse opted for "angled textures."



Smart.

Advance's story was not written by Dan Houser, but Digital Eclipse's James Stanley. However, Rockstar did oversee its direction for Stanley to develop from there.

 

[Problematic User Forever]

Honestly, this interview has really done a lot to raise my view of Dan Houser. You can tell he really did put a lot of thought into what he was writing and how he did it with how much he talks about how it had to work around the game. And he puts a huge emphasis on the team and actors over himself, which feels like the exact opposite of people like Druckmann and Kojima.

Like I never thought bad of him just because there was hardly anything to really get with him interview wise. But I honestly would have thought he'd be a lot more of a pretentious nob after seeing most of the "big names" in the industry talk.

 

[The Last Stand]

Honestly, this interview has really done a lot to raise my view of Dan Houser.

I cannot wait to sit down and listen to it.

Like I never thought bad of him just because there was hardly anything to really get with him interview wise.

I recall hearing that the Houser brothers don't like doing interviews to sell the mystique of Rockstar Games' quality.

 

[VM_]

It's funny because Alpha Protocol felt like a Rockstar game but without it being a proper open world. In hindsight maybe they should have used it, and the Saboteur game is a reference on how to tackle Agent, but I believe they canceled the project by the time these games were out.

Kingdom Come is basically the realization of the medieval open-world game they scrapped.

 

[GAY DEAD MUPPET GANGBANG]

Yeah, I'm way more interested in Anata than GTA VI

 

[AngryItalianAmerican]

the writing in 5 was fucking dogshit and the only non charicature was the daughter. i legit felt sorry for her. michael is a cuck, trevor is a faggot and franklin shouldnt even exist dude is a non entity

I also felt sorry for Wade, as it was obvious he wasn't playing with a full deck.

I absolutely agree on the writing. But as a game, I find GTA V infinitely more entertaining than IV, as the world and characters are more wacky and idiotic. I don't want to ponder on the misery of the human condition while plowing through the streets at mach 7 and shooting at the police.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I also felt sorry for Wade, as it was obvious he wasn't playing with a full deck.

I absolutely agree on the writing. But as a game, I find GTA V infinitely more entertaining than IV, as the world and characters are more wacky and idiotic. I don't want to ponder on the misery of the human condition while plowing through the streets at mach 7 and shooting at the police.

Well, GTA V is a throwback of GTA SA.
Saint's Row was the answer of Rockstar being serious but failing with TBoGT.
RDR1 is the best one in terms of writing.

 

[El Chacal De La Trompeta]

the rumours are that its going to be delayed again.
this shit is legit a cp77 situation huh they are going to release a barren piece of shit game without any options whatsoever

 

[Problematic User Forever]

the rumours are that its going to be delayed again.
this shit is legit a cp77 situation huh they are going to release a barren piece of shit game without any options whatsoever

Where did you hear this?

 

[Love Is Blue]

Where did you hear this?

his dog works at rockstar