Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

[Hazel Motes]

Billie Jean playing on the radio when first hopping on the scooter was the defining gaming moment of my childhood. That ain't coming back. Stick with the originals.

 

[Jack Awful]

Billie Jean playing on the radio when first hopping on the scooter was the defining gaming moment of my childhood. That ain't coming back. Stick with the originals.

Depends how easy the remakes will be to mod.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I don't know. Anyone that wanted to play GTA III-SA has had plenty of options to play them now. This is a 20th anniversary after all, and Rockstar games in the past haven't sold well on Nintendo.

Remember, GTA is far bigger than the 3D trilogy at this point and most of the kids that make up the fanbase don't like the 3D trilogy that much.

You underestimate nostalgia bait, the fact that Nintendo has picked up a lot of lapsed Sony/Xbox fans in recent years, die-hard Nintendo fans who never played the original trilogy and who have grown up for twenty years being told that Vice City and San Andreas were the zenith of GTA quality-wise and that GTA4-5 are basically worn out painted whores that hit the wall hard and who pale in comparison to the girl next door purity of the PS2 era games.

 

[Bread Fetishist]

I get the sneaking suspicion that they're gonna make some dumbass changes in these remasters to "suit modern standards", and with the original versions delisted, you'll have no choice but to buy the neutered version (well, except for piracy, but that's besides the point). This shit happened with Sam and Max.

 

[Hazel Motes]

I get the sneaking suspicion that they're gonna make some dumbass changes in these remasters to "suit modern standards", and with the original versions delisted, you'll have no choice but to buy the neutered version (well, except for piracy, but that's besides the point). This shit happened with Sam and Max.

What did they do to Sam & Max?

 

[Bread Fetishist]

What did they do to Sam & Max?

The devs of the remaster of Sam and Max Save The World promised that everything will be the exact same as in the original, but they fucking lied, as they felt the need to change a bunch of jokes they found "problematic", which, in my opinion, took some of the bite out of them, and replaced the VA for the character Bosco because "nuuuu, you can't just have somebody voice a character who's a different race from them".

And, of course, morons on Twitter were lapping it up, even some so-called fan account for the series. And worst of all, the original version has been delisted. It was just plain sad to see.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

die-hard Nintendo fans

Die Hard Nintendo fans don't play anything but Nintendo, though.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Die Hard Nintendo fans don't play anything but Nintendo, though.

There are the consoomer Nintendo douches and then there are the Nintendo fans who've been BEGGING Nintendo for DECADES to get off their high horse and cut a deal to bring GTA (and not the bullshit Chinatown Wars or GTA Color half-assed versions) to the system.

 

[Geoff Peterson]

The devs of the remaster of Sam and Max Save The World promised that everything will be the exact same as in the original, but they fucking lied, as they felt the need to change a bunch of jokes they found "problematic", which, in my opinion, took some of the bite out of them, and replaced the VA for the character Bosco because "nuuuu, you can't just have somebody voice a character who's a different race from them".

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6YvVPXGgUL0
And, of course, morons on Twitter were lapping it up, even some so-called fan account for the series. And worst of all, the original version has been delisted. It was just plain sad to see.

The originals are available for download if you own the remaster, and as far as I've seen they haven't cut anything from them. At least Bosco's original VA, not sure if they cut any of the jokes.

 

[The Last Stand]

You underestimate nostalgia bait, the fact that Nintendo has picked up a lot of lapsed Sony/Xbox fans in recent years, die-hard Nintendo fans who never played the original trilogy and who have grown up for twenty years being told that Vice City and San Andreas were the zenith of GTA quality-wise and that GTA4-5 are basically worn out painted whores that hit the wall hard and who pale in comparison to the girl next door purity of the PS2 era games.

Vice City was Joan Crawford. That's not to say that GTA didn't have charm the older it got.

"The girl next door" would be the amass of GTA clones until V just eliminated the competition and itself with Online.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

I just saw Gtamens video about people thinking they're going to add swimming to GTA III/Vice City, a voice for Claude, Ryder NOT being an antagonist and stuff to these remasters.

I know the GTA fanbase is fucking tarded, but are they really *this* tarded?

 

[Grimdark Reaper]

I just saw Gtamens video about people thinking they're going to add swimming to GTA III/Vice City, a voice for Claude, Ryder NOT being an antagonist and stuff to these remasters.

I know the GTA fanbase is fucking retarded, but are they really *this* retarded?

When a lot of the fans are 14-year-olds whose only actual exposure to the series is playing GTA Online and watching San Andreas meme videos, yes.

 

[X Pac Heat]

I just saw Gtamens video about people thinking they're going to add swimming to GTA III/Vice City, a voice for Claude, Ryder NOT being an antagonist and stuff to these remasters.

I know the GTA fanbase is fucking retarded, but are they really *this* retarded?

They see shit like this and don't read a single description or comment.

 

[The Last Stand]

I just saw Gtamens video about people thinking they're going to add swimming to GTA III/Vice City, a voice for Claude, Ryder NOT being an antagonist and stuff to these remasters.

I know the GTA fanbase is fucking retarded, but are they really *this* retarded?

Remember, it's the same community that wants GTA6 to have CJ and Franklin together despite being in two completely different universes.

It's second hand embarrassment at this point.

 

[WULULULULU]

So, the big mods are gone aren't they? Or are the main links still up? Going to store these mods if T2 is gonna nuke them from existence.

 

[Grimdark Reaper]

So, the big mods are gone aren't they? Or are the main links still up? Going to store these mods if T2 is gonna nuke them from existence.

Not sure if this counts as a "big mod", but to my surprise Things To Do In San Andreas is still up, so I advise you grab it while you still can: https://gtaforums.com/topic/939012-sarel-things-to-do-in-san-andreas-overall-improvements/
There's a somewhat similar mod for Vice City called Updated SCM which I also suggest you get before it might be taken down: https://gtaforums.com/topic/849281-gta-vice-city-updated-scm/

 

[TurkishOreo]

The originals are available for download if you own the remaster, and as far as I've seen they haven't cut anything from them. At least Bosco's original VA, not sure if they cut any of the jokes.

Issue is that you can feel the turdy touch of 2021's clown world by having the remaster existing alongside the original or worse.


For the GTA remasters i can see the BDSM and Denise mission being changed for involving a kill&replace (rape by deception) and setting a house on fire and rescuing the girl which you put in danger.

Catalina's content probably will remain true to the original.

 

[The Last Stand]

Achievements for the GTA Trilogy have been leaked.

GTA III:

• First Day on the Job - Complete "Luigi's Girls".
• Without a Scratch - Deliver Mike Lips' car without a scratch on first attempt.
• Escape Artist - Use 20 police bribes.
• Disposing of the Evidence - Crush a car at the junkyard.
• Mob Boss - Keep the two mafia members alive during "Triads and Tribulations".
• Street Sweeper - Waste 100 gang members.
• Planned Ahead - Take out Chunky Lee Chong with a car rigged with a bomb.
• Got This Figured Out - Use a coach to pick up all 8 prostitutes in the mission "The Fuzz Ball".
• By a Mile - Complete the "Turismo" race in under 180 seconds.
• Wreckless Driving - Perform a perfect insane stunt.
• Wheels Up - Complete 20 unique jumps.
• Come Out to Play-y-y-y - Kill 25 gang members with melee weapons / fists.
• Where To? - Complete 100 taxi fares.
• Liberty City Minute - Survive with less than 10 hp for 1 minute.
• Full Artillery - Use every weapon in the game at least once.
• A Marked Man - Complete "Last Requests".
• Offshore Delivery - Complete "A Drop in the Ocean".
• Not So Fast - Complete "The Exchange".
• A Gift from the King - Complete the "Kingdom Come" mission.
• Man Toyz - Complete every RC Toyz mission.
• Splish Splash - Extinguish 15 fires during a single Fire Truck mission.
• Playing Doctor - Complete Paramedic level 12.
• Going Rogue - Kill 15 criminals during one Vigilante mission.
• Dirty Money - Amass a fortune of $1,000,000.
• Right-hand Man - Earn a criminal rating of 2,500.
• Furious First Responder - Complete Paramedic, Firefighter, Vigilante.
• Liberty City Secrets - Collect 100 hidden packages.
• Is That All You've Got? - Achieve 100% completion.
• King of Liberty City - Unlock all achievements.
• Got Any Stories, Old Man? - Complete "Cipriani's Chauffeur".
• Talks a Lot - Complete all phone missions.
• Blood in the Streets - Pass all 20 Rampages.
• Instigator - Complete 10 Rampages.
• Chasing Paper - Amass a fortune of $500,000.
• Am Walkin' Here - Die from being run over.
• Hunting Season - Destroy five helicopters.
• Repeat Offender - Get busted 20 times.
• Cheaters Do Prosper! - Blow up 2,000 cars.
• Play Fetch - Complete the Portland Docks and Shoreside Vale import/export car lists.
• Pest Control - Deliver all emergency vehicles to the crane at the Portland Docks.
• Relief Pitcher - Extinguish 20 fires during a single Fire Truck mission.
• Like a Boss - Earn a criminal rating of 5,000 or higher.
• Fare Game - Pick up Curly Bob in a Taxi during "Cutting the Grass".
• Recycler - Crush 25 cars.

GTA: VC:

• Born in the 80s - Listen to all music stations at least once.
• Running Rampant - Complete Vigilante mission level 12.
• Iron-y - Kill the property developer with a Golf Club during "Four Iron".
• Not my First Time - Complete mission "G-Spotlight" without falling from the rooftops.
• One is Better Than Two - Perform a 30-second wheelie.
• Point A to Point B - Drop off 25 passengers driving the taxi.
• High Quality H2O - Extinguish 10 fires.
• Pie Guy - Deliver 10 pizzas.
• Bull in a China Shop - Cause $1,000,000 in property damage.
• Vice City Mogul - Own 10 properties.
• Salutations My Little Friend - Use the M4 to take out Diaz during the mission "Rub Out".
• Catch Me if You Can - Achieve a six-star wanted level.
• Somebody Call the Wambulance? - Complete Paramedic Mission level 12.
• Greasy Palms - Use a police bribe to reduce your wanted level.
• Just Like the Real Thing - Win the RC Bandit Race.
• Keepie-Uppy Okie Dokie - Earn a high score of 5 with the Keepie-Uppy Beach Ball.
• Gun for Hire - Complete all assassination contracts.
• I'm Famous! - Earn the Stuff of Legends media attention rank.
• Don't Need Roads - Hit max speed in a Deluxo.
• Daredevil - Complete 36 unique jumps.
• Legal Counsel - Complete the "Riot" mission.
• Life of the Party - Complete the "All Hands on Deck!" mission.
• South American Connection - Complete the "Supply & Demand" mission.
• Big Heat from Little Havana - Complete the "Trojan Voodoo" mission.
• Chauffeur - Complete the "Publicity Tour" mission.
• Tommy Two-Wheels - Complete the "Hog Tied" mission.
• Grand Theft Auto - Retrieve every wanted vehicle at Sunshine Autos Import Garage.
• Bloodstained Hands - Earn the Butcher criminal rating.
• Take the Cannoli - Earn the Godfather criminal rating.
• Mischief Managed- Complete the "Keep Your Friends Close..." mission.
• Chopper'd Up - Kill all hostile NPCs during the mission "Demolition Man" using the RC chopper's blades.
• City Sleuth - Find 100 hidden packages.
• Done it All - Earn 100% completion.
• Kingpin - Unlock all achievements.
• Put 'Em Up - Knock off 15 stores.
• Offender - Attain 50 wanted stars.
• Retro Lewk - Wear every outfit in the game at least once.
• Scouring the City - Find 50 hidden packages.
• Break it Up - Cause $500,000 in property damage.
• Target Practice - Perform 50 headshots.
• Prime Real Estate - Purchase all properties.
• Vice Vice Baby - Complete the Cherry Popper dealer subgame.
• Baked Distractions - Highjack the tank without alerting the army first, during "Sir, Yes Sir!"

GTA: SA:

• Getting Started - Complete "Big Smoke".
• With Extra Dip - Buy 8 meals from Cluckin' Bell throughout the game.
• The End of the Line - Complete "End of the Line".
• Hoopin' it Up - Score at least 30 points in the basketball mini-game.
• A Legitimate Business - Export all three car lists.
• I'll Have Two Number 9s - Reach maximum weight.
• The American Dream - Purchase any house.
• Pay 'n' Spray - Use a Pay 'n' Spray with wanted level.
• Bike or Biker - Complete BMX or NRG challenge.
• Who Needs Directions? - Find Mike Toreno without any of the referenced locations during "Mike Toreno".
• Liberty City State of Mind - Complete the "Saint Mark's Bistro" mission.
• Swiss Army Strife - Max all weapon skills.
• School's Out - Fully complete a vehicle school.
• Horror of the Santa Maria - Drown.
• They Can't Stop All of Us - Sneak into the underground base without setting off the alarm above ground.
• Smooth Moves - Perform a perfect dance routine.
• What the City Needs - Complete 12 levels of Vigilante.
• Saviour - Complete 12 levels of Paramedic.
• Rescue a Kitten Too? - Complete 12 levels of Firefighter.
• Yes I Speak English - Reach 50 fares in Taxi Mode.
• Lucky Spinner - Win at least $1,000 in a single spin of the Wheel of Fortune.
• What happens in Las Venturas... - Complete "Yay Ka-Boom-Boom".
• All Dressed Up for San Fierro - Complete "The Green Sabre".
• Not a Player - Go on at least one date with every potential girlfriend.
• What are the Odds - Win a race in Inside Track Betting.
• Double or Nothin' - Put all your money or the maximum bet on red or black and win.
• Assassin - Stealth kill all enemies in the mission "Madd Dogg's Rhymes".
• Original Gangster - Reach maximum respect.
• Today Was a Good Day - Go 24 hours (in-game) without breaking the law, being wanted, killing or harming anyone.
• Public Enemy No. 1 - Reach 6 wanted stars.
• Chick Magnet - Achieve maximum sex appeal.
• Ain't Nothing But a G Thing - Own all gang warfare turfs, properties and have $1,000,000.
• Remastered - Earn 100% completion.
• ...Here we go again - Start a new game after getting 100% on a save file.
• I Ain't No Buster - Unlock all achievements.
• Sticky Fingers - Earn $50,000 through burglary missions.
• 81 Years Too Late - Spend 24 hours on foot in the countryside (looking for Big Foot).
• Get a Pump - Do a barbell curl or benchpress at any gym.
• Beat the Cock - Win the Beat the Cock marathon.
• Metrosexual - Spend $6,969 on clothes, hair, and tattoos.
• Where'd He Go? - Escape the police 20 times using the Pay 'n' Spray.
• High As a Kite - Fly as high as possible / Hit the height limit.
• Represent - Purchase a Grove Street tattoo.
• Assert Yourself Next Time - Fail a mission.
• Serial Offender - Get arrested 50 times.
• Freight Date - Take the train between cities.
• Time to Kill - Watch Credits to the end.
• Lots of Guns - Unlock all weapons.

Okay, it looks like some of these have been influenced by speedrun strats. Most of them are recycled from the PS4 ports of the trilogy. With some memes and cultural references for good measure.

Take the Cannoli is back...

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

Just want to say that in GTA IV, the Jon Gravelli missions are pretty underrated in the game.

These two were the best one to me:

Even on his death bed, Gravelli seemed to be more likeable as boss for the mafia than Jimmy Peggorino.
The “Dining Out“ mission was more fun, but when it came to the “Entourage” mission, it’s best to play when it rainy and thunderous out. It actually makes the mission more engaging to play in the game.

 

[The Last Stand]

Just want to say that in GTA IV, the Jon Gravelli missions are pretty underrated in the game.

These two were the best one to me:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bmQeGTs2NCY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xE924L_5hG0
Even on his death bed, Gravelli seemed to be more likeable as boss for the mafia than Jimmy Peggorino.
The “Dining Out“ mission was more fun, but when it came to the “Entourage” mission, it’s best to play when it rainy and thunderous out. It actually makes the mission more engaging to play in the game.

That model of Jon Gravelli: that whole setup is his model. Bed AND body. He has no legs.