Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

Will the Magistrate grant Greer's request to post bond?

  • Yes

    Votes: 96 24.6%
  • No

    Votes: 141 36.1%
  • The Magistrate will set a higher bond than Greer asked

    Votes: 98 25.1%
  • The Magistrate will deny the motion, and threaten jail time

    Votes: 56 14.3%

  • Total voters
    391
See Smith v. Colonial Penn Ins. Co., 943 F. Supp. 782, 783-784 (S.D. Tex. 1996)
I knew I recognized this prose style. It's Samuel B. Kent. This is from another of his opinions.

"Before proceeding further, the Court notes that this case involves two extremely likable lawyers, who have together delivered some of the most amateurish pleadings ever to cross the hallowed causeway into Galveston, an effort which leads the Court to surmise but one plausible explanation. Both attorneys have obviously entered into a secret pact — complete with hats, handshakes and cryptic words — to draft their pleadings entirely in crayon on the back sides of gravy-stained paper place mats, in the hope that the Court would be so charmed by their child-like efforts that their utter dearth of legal authorities in their briefing would go unnoticed. Whatever actually occurred, the Court is now faced with the daunting task of deciphering their submissions. With Big Chief tablet readied, thick black pencil in hand, and a devil-may-care, laugh in the face of death, life on the razor's edge sense of exhilaration, the Court begins.

[. . .]

II. CONCLUSION

After this remarkably long walk on a short legal pier, having received no useful guidance whatever from either party, the Court has endeavored, primarily based upon its affection for both counsel, but also out of its own sense of morbid curiosity, to resolve what it perceived to be the legal issue presented. Despite the waste of perfectly good crayon seen in both parties' briefing (and the inexplicable odor of wet dog emanating from such) the Court believes it has satisfactorily resolved this matter. Defendant's Motion for Summary Judgment is GRANTED.

At this juncture, Plaintiff retains, albeit seemingly to his befuddlement and/or consternation, a maritime law cause of action versus his alleged Jones Act employer, Defendant Unity Marine Corporation, Inc. However, it is well known around these parts that Unity Marine's lawyer is equally likable and has been writing crisply in ink since the second grade. Some old-timers even spin yarns of an ability to type. The Court cannot speak to the veracity of such loose talk, but out of caution, the Court suggests that Plaintiff's lovable counsel had best upgrade to a nice shiny No. 2 pencil or at least sharpen what's left of the stubs of his crayons for what remains of this heart-stopping, spine-tingling action. IT IS SO ORDERED."
Bradshaw v. Unity Marine Corporation, 147 F. Supp. 2d 668 (S.D. Tex. 2001)

There's actually some legal analysis in here, too, also peppered with (deserved) insults towards counsel, but it's lengthier than needs reproduced here.

Sadly Kent ended his career with an impeachment and criminal conviction for being a sex pest, as well as having faced some other disciplinary issues relating to his rambunctious behavior as the sole judge of the Galveston Division of the Southern District of Texas.

Sadly, the death penalty is only reserved for murder.
That's not entirely true. It's also available for crimes against the state such as treason. While arguably anything rising to the level of treason (i.e. materially assisting a nation with which we are at war) implicates loss of human life, it isn't necessary.

"This casts serious doubt upon the constitutional validity of statutes imposing the death penalty for a variety of conduct which, though dangerous, may not necessarily result in any immediate death, e.g., treason, airplane hijacking, and kidnaping. In that respect, today's holding does even more harm than is initially apparent." Coker v. Georgia, 433 U.S. 584, 621 (1977) (Powell, J., dissenting).

Kennedy addressed this concern.

"Our concern here is limited to crimes against individual persons. We do not address, for example, crimes defining and punishing treason, espionage, terrorism, and drug kingpin activity, which are offenses against the State. As it relates to crimes against individuals, though, the death penalty should not be expanded to instances where the victim's life was not taken." Kennedy v. Louisiana, 554 U.S. 407, 437 (2008).
 
Mr. Hardin's discovery motion is DENIED
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More tard-guarding? E: Or is this the judges hinting they don't think the 2 anons will affect anything?

E: Ok I think I follow the judge's theory here. Basically, he's claiming Hardin is trying to ask Russ how he's handling discovery, and he doesn't have any business asking for that for it's own sake. But since Russ is openly witness tampering, playing fuky fuky games with discovery, and generally being a faggot loser, feels like tard guarding.
 
Sadly Kent ended his career with an impeachment and criminal conviction for being a sex pest, as well as having faced some other disciplinary issues relating to his rambunctious behavior as the sole judge of the Galveston Division of the Southern District of Texas.
They did my boy dirty, $6,500 for being a sex pest and 33 months for "obstructing investigation into being a sex pest". It's not the crime, it's the coverup!
offenses against the State
Greer's filings certainly qualify.
 
The court denies Defendants’ request seeking “discovery on discovery” for three reasons.
First, Defendants have failed to demonstrate an adequate factual basis to question the sufficiency
of Mr. Greer’s compliance with Defendants’ first request for production. Defendants allege that
Mr. Greer has lost or destroyed numerous electronic records
from July 1, 2020 to the present
based on pure speculation, despite Mr. Greer’s statement that he has conducted a diligent search
and provided Defendants with those documents within his possession, and has explained the
circumstances under which certain documents were lost or deleted.
How dare you accuse Greer of destroying documents just because he admitted to destroying documents? Enjoy prison, Your Hardship.

So what is the law on this in normal cases? Let's imagine two honest parties in a lawsuit and the request for legal history comes through in discovery. Neither party has the documents on hand and someone's going to have to pay for it on PACER or go down to the courthouse or whatever. Can the responding party really say "lol nah just google it yourself"?
 
Rather than doom and gloom it, what is your professional opinion of this?
I think it is a misunderstanding of two of the arguments Mr. Hardin made, and therefore incorrect. Mr. Hardin can always object and force the District Judge to rule on it (if Null so desires). For example, discovery into the deleted materials is obviously related because he deleted those materials whilst the litigation was going on, and some of them very likely after Mr. Hardin issued his request.

Likewise, the court misunderstands that some of those documents ARE NOT available in the public databases, and indeed all of his state cases are in some manner obscured. Even Greer contends that is true in his mocking email that Null didn't know about the harassment case. Likewise there was NO WAY to find the Gilman case without prior knowledge about the case.
 
More tard-guarding?
Indeed, regardless of whether Mr. Greer objected or not, Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(2)(C) allows this court, “on its own,” to “limit the frequency or extent of discovery . . . if it determines that . . . the discovery sought. . . can be obtained from some other source that is more convenient, less burdensome, or less expensive.”
Kinda reads like it to me.
 
So, entirely predictably, the Magistrate is sick of everybody’s shit. That bodes well for outcomes in Null’s favor, surely.
The Magistrate could have very well resolved all this at ANY time in these past 5 years. One of his superiors, in fact, got tired of his shit and did solve it
 
Mr. Hardin's discovery motion is DENIED
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In a broader sense, I was expecting this based on the historical tard-guarding. Specifically however, I am quite surprised that the honorable ballwasher has genuinely taken everything Russtard (a demonstrable liar and moron) claimed at face value. As others have pointed out, there are exhibits quite clearly pointing out that most of the relevant documents are not publicly accessible including Russ's not-so-subtle acknowledgement of this.

Coping that he'll at least rule favourably on the sanctions and Russ's surprise anonymous defendants.
 
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