Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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Sneed Force One said:
Imagine demanding to rezone someone's private property without even informing them. What did Greer think was going to happen?
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Isn't he currently in the process of filing lawsuits against Gilman to force him to sell his plot of dirt to him completely oblivious that land is also currently blocked by state law from opening a new brothel because in 2009 a bunch of mexicans turned a fucking carpet store 2 blocks away from it into a Church?

Yes I've been doing the fucking research to determine how long these peices of land have been haram yet here this slack jawed fuck doing all this bullshit

By the way, Scott Shady Court? The Methodist church that makes that 100% haram has been there since NINETEEN FOURTY-SIX, ALMOST 80 YEARS.
 
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m1ddl3m4rch said:
as is his won't
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In the words of another pop starlet: "Oops, I did it again."
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Silver Coin Anon said:
I suppose dismissal is the sensible, quickest, and best remedy but I have this itching hope he manages to violate something so substantial that it enters court recommendation for criminal prosecution. I guess contempt would be the most any could hope for such a pitiful retard.

I'll keep visualizing it while rubbing magic quartz crystals and reading horoscopes in hope.
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Anything criminal would more likely arise on the state level out of his grand brothel empire dreams. More and more he is moving beyond "local lunatic shouting at clouds" and dancing ever closer to actual fraud.

Or he's going to get popped locally for something insane and stupid involving whores. Or 9 or 10 hotness Door Dash delivery customers that he starts creeping on.

The Federal Courts will just wash their hands of him. Hit him with fees and fines and rejection. They are not going to be interested in prosecuting him.
 
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Silver Coin Anon said:
Which options would these entitites have to remedy the situation? Which options would a supposed defendant have to remedy the situation?
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obsdj said:
If it's determined that IFP status was obtained by fraud, the remedy is dismissal of the case. US code states that the court SHALL dismiss the case -- not "may" do so, but SHALL dismiss -- if it's determined the allegation of poverty is untrue, as we've mentioned a few times in this thread previously.
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The Magistrate Judge ordered Greer to pay the filing fee which should have resolved the issue. Of course Russel is refusing to pay the fee which opens a can of worms, and there is the fact that the District Judge used IFP status to grant a lower sanction.

This allows Hardin to show all of the scummy things Russel Greer is doing in relation to his brothel. If Greer had paid the filing fee close to when he was ordered and the District Judge hadn't made his retarded motion with IFP front and center then there would be less reason for the court to even care as the issues wouldn't exist.

But Greer being the retard that he is has left an opening for Hardin to attack him in by playing games with the filing fee.
Silver Coin Anon said:
I'll keep visualizing it while rubbing magic quartz crystals and reading horoscopes in hope.
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That's Greer's secret weakness that will assuredly work unless he hires a goth prostitute who is into crystal healing.
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The IFP fraud should really be the center of a motion to dismiss, pursuant to 28 U.S. Code § 1915(e)(2)(A):
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That is what Hardin is likely angling for as he likes to have several methods of getting this case dismissed all at once.
There is a motion to dismiss because of the inability for Russ to serve the other defendants in his amended complaint, there is fact the case will be dismissed if Greer doesn't pay the filing fee, and now there is likely going to be a motion to dismiss concerning Greer lying about IFP and in general lying to the court.
 
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Napoleon III said:
There is a motion to dismiss because of the inability for Russ to serve the other defendants in his amended complaint, there is fact the case will be dismissed if Greer doesn't pay the filing fee, and now there is likely going to be a motion to dismiss concerning Greer lying about IFP and in general lying to the court.
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There are also the multiple and escalating Sanctions Motions. The potential of which are dismissal with prejudice.

And the Court does not have to simply pick one. It can grant multiple motions/reasons for dismissal. And all would need to be successfully appealed indivually. If one stands the case is still dismissed.
 
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Checking the timing on the meeting minutes.

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This is NV time, which is 1 hour behind Utah time. So Russ was in the meeting somewhere from 2:00 PM to 2:50 PM Utah time; we know he spoke because the minutes include things the powerpoint does not (like being unable to purchase the Scott Shady wing). His proposal shows up as the 2nd business item after some light housekeeping, so he probably spoke early on.

I don't remember the exact time for the Court hearing, but I think it was 1:00 to roughly 1:45 Utah time. If that's right, then Russ got lucky and got out of his pesky Court-mandated hearing just in time to do his brothel pitch, probably within 15-30 minutes.

Also, assuming the Greer emails Null posted are in NV time, that puts 3 emails occurring during the Court hearing, 2 sent from him.

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He tells Ruth "Ok, I will be there" at 1:19 PM Utah time, halfway through the Court hearing. Four minutes later he emails to ask "Can you push it to the end of the meeting? I’m on a business call." He got no response, and now we can see that they didn't push it to the end of the council meeting, it was near the start. So if the Court hearing had stretched another 20 minutes, he would have been screwed.

[Late edit after Null posted the video]: Looks like his item actually came up 33 minutes into the meeting, the mural discussion took longer than I estimated. So Russ had more time to spare before he talked, but didn't know that would be the case during his court hearing. He still had to rush to get into the council meeting before it started.

If this was anyone but Greer, I would consider the following question too retarded to ask... but it is worth wondering:

Did Greer only tell the judge he could pay the filing fees because he was rushing to end the hearing, to make his brothel pitch on time?
 
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Napoleon III said:
There is a motion to dismiss because of the inability for Russ to serve the other defendants in his amended complaint, there is fact the case will be dismissed if Greer doesn't pay the filing fee, and now there is likely going to be a motion to dismiss concerning Greer lying about IFP and in general lying to the court.
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Hardin has already mentioned this in ECF 289 (requesting extension of time to reply to Greer's opposition to the Motion to Dismiss):
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I love how he stressed the MANDATORY nature of the dismissal three times. Suffah judge, the US Code says you SHALL dismiss, fuckers.
 
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