Culture Guild Wars 2 writers fired following heated Twitter exchange with streamer - Gamergate, the gift that keeps on giving.

PC Gamer said:
Guild Wars 2 developer ArenaNet recently parted ways with writers Jessica Price and Peter Fries, who were involved in a contentious Twitter discussion with Guild Wars 2 Twitch streamer and YouTuber Deroir, who is also partnered with ArenaNet through its content creator program.

On Tuesday, July 3, Price wrote a lengthy Twitter thread about writing for MMOs, particularly Guild Wars 2, and why player characters are uniquely difficult to write compared to protagonists in singleplayer games. To put it simply, she discussed how to give characters personality in a way that also leaves room for players to create their own character. In a reply to Price's thread, Deroir argued that branching dialogue options could give players more ways to define their character's personality, overcome the MMO-specific constraints Price discussed, and improve the roleplaying potential of Guild Wars 2.

Yesterday Price highlighted Deroir's reply in a series of tweets suggesting he was uninformed and that his reply was condescending.

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Among those tweets, the one that's drawn the most ire, particularly on the Guild Wars 2 subreddit, is Price's remark about "rando asshats" talking down to experienced writers and developers.

Responding to the mounting criticism of these tweets, Peter Fries defended Price's position in a now-deleted tweet which is archived here, saying "she never asked for [Deroir's] feedback".

For his part, Deroir said that he "meant no disrespect" and simply wanted to create "dialogue and discussion" with Price. He also apologized for any offense his argument may have caused.

In a post to the Guild Wars 2 forums, in a thread explicitly about Price and Fries' tweets, ArenaNet president Mike O'Brien characterized the statements as "attacks on the community," saying "two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players" and that those employees are "no longer with the company." O'Brien also said "the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all."

It's no grand secret that game developers, especially women, are regularly targeted by fans who want to lash out, condescend or place blame, to say nothing of the insults, threats and other toxicity routinely hurled their way. That being said, this incident was not on the level of the harassment maelstroms we've seen in the past. A developer explained their writing philosophy, a partnered content creator offered feedback, and that developer responded somewhat rudely. Ordinarily that would be the end of it, perhaps followed by a round of apologies or someone stepping away from their role temporarily, but in this case ArenaNet felt the need to immediately fire the employees involved.
And the usual assclowns are out in full force:
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https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/guild-w...lowing-heated-twitter-exchange-with-streamer/
 
> Being a public forum, naturally someone responds and offers some advice on how said developer can hone her craft

You've got it, but i just wanted to remind everyone that this 'someone' is basically the top GW2 streamer, has a huge voice in the community and even had a character named after them. A lot of these white knight articles have been trying to play them off as just some joe schmoe, whereas they are probably the best PR person ArenaNet has for GW2 atm. If Jessica was just rude to regular customers i doubt all of this fallout would occur.
 
This is some special Twitter autism. It just goes on and on and on. I think the OP himself made like sixty more tweets in the chain. Why can't these people just write a fucking blog?

https://twitter.com/beaglerush/status/1017050472681598978
http://archive.is/wLGj4

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The Reddit stuff is especially exceptional.

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As far as I can tell, this guy is yelling at them for making reasonable or at any rate arguable claims. I mean, somebody at McDonald's would be fired for acting like she did, etc.
 
Man... "Guild Wars 2 Writer" is a really pathetic title. I've played that game, and... writing? MMO writing is taking the biggest cliches in the world and writing them over and over in slightly different ways. The average TVTropes user is as qualified as anyone else to write that tripe.

It's about as impressive as "soup can ingredient list writer."
 
The progressives have picked a terrible hill to fight on.

While the usual suspects are shitting out the usual stories but oddly enough they never show the tweets in question. It's always a summation of events and never the events themselves. But the rest of the world can see the tweets in question and all the normies articles that bothered talking about this low level drama show said tweets.

This ain't like the Zoe-post where it was all he said she said. We can see the tweets and we can see how much of a cunt she was, there is zero wiggle room which is why the SJWs keep bring up the shit no one can see as an excuse for her cuntish behavior. Oh she was just tired of all the off screen misogyny and she just couldn't bear it for a second longer, woe is her and so on.

But to any inquiring mind a quick look over her Twitter history shows this is hardly the case. Jessica Price has been a massive cunt since she opened her Twitter account. Anyone unfortunate enough to interact with her can easily attest.

But I always forget most of these blogs are written for a very specific audience, one who will never examine the evidence, one who only wants to read confirmation of what they already believe happened...

...so fuck em. Don't waste your time preaching logic to those who have rejected it in favour of faith.

Fuck em all.
 
This probably should go into GamerGate HangerOns or Celebrating Cancer Death or something but fuck it, it's obviously being spurred by what happened here.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/fruzsi...-collateral-damage-of-gamergate/#2368395a32ae

Idiot Forbes contributor basically goes "John Bain was evil and GamerGate's leader". She then has the fucking audacity to do this shit:
"Clearly Bain didn’t do enough to atone for his perceived Gamergate sins and if there is a lesson in all of this, it’s that one must make peace and settle any internet beef you have with feminists while you’re still living. History is written by the victors, after all."
"Genna Bain, wife and CEO of all media related to Totalbiscuit, did not respond to requests for comment."

I only put this here because Price celebrating his death has brought out all the shitflinging assholes to do the same.
 
This is like after the gay cake decision, everyone was like "Decision was too long, didn't read, but obviously it means I get to act like a fucking retard, right? I'm just gonna start acting like a retard."

This moron wasn't fired for being a woman, and firing women has always been allowed. No new ground was broken here.
 
This probably should go into GamerGate HangerOns or Celebrating Cancer Death or something but fuck it, it's obviously being spurred by what happened here.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/fruzsi...-collateral-damage-of-gamergate/#2368395a32ae

Idiot Forbes contributor basically goes "John Bain was evil and GamerGate's leader". She then has the fucking audacity to do this shit:


I only put this here because Price celebrating his death has brought out all the shitflinging assholes to do the same.
O....k... so she's saying the feminists are the victors... so then... does that mean we get to yell at them to check their privilege? That means feminism is no longer about egalitarianism, and is now strictly about misandry, then right? So I should expect to start seeing articles like "Why feminism is problematic" any minute now, right?
 
She's back...
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TIL enforcing company policy equals a "public temper tantrum".
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Blew the fuck up on social media and then got BTFO on social media, where ever she goes on vacation I hope she stays there. I love how she keeps beating the "women are marginalized" drum to direct attention away from the fact she was being unprofessional as fuck and picks Twitter fights with people constantly. No one has a problem with women working in the industry whether it be writing, programming, character design, or just day to day office work. People do have a major problem with individuals that go out of their way to stir shit up and then cry foul when they get called on it. Anyone on Jessica's side is either so blinded by their need to appear virtuous and progressive they can't see her for the shrieking harpy she is or they are just flat out exceptional.
 
The most hilarious thing is I have yet to see any actual Gamers defend this bitch. The Gaming Press would seem to be getting near 100% universal pushback from the actual consumers of games on their non stop White Knighting. It just further proves how utterly irrelevant they are. I notice the Arenanet guy does not seem to be in any way sweating his decision or backpedaling. (I probably doesn't help that the fools at Kotaku probably have mere weeks of employment remaining if that. And I won't be surprised if somebody takes an axe to Polygon early next year as their Venture Capital Funding finally runs dry.)
 
The most hilarious thing is I have yet to see any actual Gamers defend this bitch. The Gaming Press would seem to be getting near 100% universal pushback from the actual consumers of games on their non stop White Knighting. It just further proves how utterly irrelevant they are. I notice the Arenanet guy does not seem to be in any way sweating his decision or backpedaling. (I probably doesn't help that the fools at Kotaku probably have mere weeks of employment remaining if that. And I won't be surprised if somebody takes an axe to Polygon early next year as their Venture Capital Funding finally runs dry.)
The closest she's gotten is Moviebob. But that's the thing; the moment you start looking at events (and her prior behavior) the whole 'oh pity me, I am poor defenseless put upon woman' act falls to pieces.

She was a cunt at Paizo, she was a cunt at ANet, and now she's going somewhere else and taking her behavior with her.
 
The biggest problem I have is no one is taking anything from Peter Fries. No one from what I've seen has gotten his side of the story. It's been a woman, Jessica Price, no one else. The idea of this being a gendered issue is ridiculous, and the fact that Fries was not ever questioned (and I'll admit, it's kind of bullshit that he got fired too for just merely defending her, and wasn't as vitriol as Price) proves this is a narrative/agenda pushing action, not a gendered issue.
 
The progressives have picked a terrible hill to fight on.
when have there ever picked a good hill to fight on?

Lol, female writers should all be fired.
you say that, but all the drama revolving around women in the industry is just going to make people less likely to hire women in the future, why have a ticking time bomb in your hands, why hire someone that could get your staff fired and their reputation ruined for petty reasons? why hire someone that will fuck around and be an asshole and cry foul when you try to tell her to LOL CALM DOWN? all i'm seeing in the future is people throwing away resumes from women because "why take the chance"?
 
you say that, but all the drama revolving around women in the industry is just going to make people less likely to hire women in the future, why have a ticking time bomb in your hands, why hire someone that could get your staff fired and their reputation ruined for petty reasons? why hire someone that will fuck around and be an asshole and cry foul when you try to tell her to LOL CALM DOWN? all i'm seeing in the future is people throwing away resumes from women because "why take the chance"?
Lol, implying it wasn't obvious from the start that women are walking hormonal jihads.
 
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