Culture Guild Wars 2 writers fired following heated Twitter exchange with streamer - Gamergate, the gift that keeps on giving.

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Guild Wars 2 developer ArenaNet recently parted ways with writers Jessica Price and Peter Fries, who were involved in a contentious Twitter discussion with Guild Wars 2 Twitch streamer and YouTuber Deroir, who is also partnered with ArenaNet through its content creator program.

On Tuesday, July 3, Price wrote a lengthy Twitter thread about writing for MMOs, particularly Guild Wars 2, and why player characters are uniquely difficult to write compared to protagonists in singleplayer games. To put it simply, she discussed how to give characters personality in a way that also leaves room for players to create their own character. In a reply to Price's thread, Deroir argued that branching dialogue options could give players more ways to define their character's personality, overcome the MMO-specific constraints Price discussed, and improve the roleplaying potential of Guild Wars 2.

Yesterday Price highlighted Deroir's reply in a series of tweets suggesting he was uninformed and that his reply was condescending.

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Among those tweets, the one that's drawn the most ire, particularly on the Guild Wars 2 subreddit, is Price's remark about "rando asshats" talking down to experienced writers and developers.

Responding to the mounting criticism of these tweets, Peter Fries defended Price's position in a now-deleted tweet which is archived here, saying "she never asked for [Deroir's] feedback".

For his part, Deroir said that he "meant no disrespect" and simply wanted to create "dialogue and discussion" with Price. He also apologized for any offense his argument may have caused.

In a post to the Guild Wars 2 forums, in a thread explicitly about Price and Fries' tweets, ArenaNet president Mike O'Brien characterized the statements as "attacks on the community," saying "two of our employees failed to uphold our standards of communicating with players" and that those employees are "no longer with the company." O'Brien also said "the statements they made do not reflect the views of ArenaNet at all."

It's no grand secret that game developers, especially women, are regularly targeted by fans who want to lash out, condescend or place blame, to say nothing of the insults, threats and other toxicity routinely hurled their way. That being said, this incident was not on the level of the harassment maelstroms we've seen in the past. A developer explained their writing philosophy, a partnered content creator offered feedback, and that developer responded somewhat rudely. Ordinarily that would be the end of it, perhaps followed by a round of apologies or someone stepping away from their role temporarily, but in this case ArenaNet felt the need to immediately fire the employees involved.
And the usual assclowns are out in full force:
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https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/guild-w...lowing-heated-twitter-exchange-with-streamer/
 
At the very least this Derar guy definitely has a case against Price. Especially if she keeps labeling him a misogynist.

Being called a misogynist, fascist, nazi, bigot or racist hasn't meant anything since the twitterverse and SJW's decided it was going to be their default opening salvo to any discussion involving a counter argument to their narrative.

They only people it does matter to are other insane progressives who believe everything they see posted by someone on twitter with a bluecheck.
 
No, let the gaming sites keep pushing this narrative. I WANT them to constantly defend this malignant cunt. Then companies will see how many actual gamers agree with them. This will only reduce their journalistic impact even more than it already has.

This idiotic cunt has been a boon to destroy the reputation of journalists as even shitty YouTubers and LowT gamers can't even look at this shit anymore because its so fucking obvious as to why she was fired.

Is it too much to hope that the gaming websites simultaneously burn what is left of their reputation AND get a hundred million dollar defamation lawsuit fired at them?

Being called a misogynist, fascist, nazi, bigot or racist hasn't meant anything since the twitterverse and SJW's decided it was going to be their default opening salvo to any discussion involving a counter argument to their narrative.

They only people it does matter to are other insane progressives who believe everything they see posted by someone on twitter with a bluecheck.

Does not matter. The law simply says (paraphrasing) that anyone who by means of an electronic device or print medium did knowingly say something about someone else that they knew or should have known to be false. The only reason more blue checkmarks have not been sued is that it is almost always not worth the hassle and even if you win you still have to prove the accusation damaged you in some way in order to get money awarded, and then hope the defendant has money to pay the judgement.
 
Far as Price's Twitter spergings, she also sperged about Gygax.
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The -4 Strength thing, much as they say is sexist, really makes one wonder if that shit was sexist in the first place or if Gygax was just copying some shit back when he made D&D long before most Kiwis were even in diapers.

>whines about (apocryphal) str modifiers in D&D for women
>proves there should actually be a -6 int modifier as well
 
Jesus.

Where is the line between reactionary and idiot? You could find all the information you needed in a minute google search. Well, maybe not anymore. I'm sure all this sensationalism has leaked into all the usual news sites. It's remarkable to see how wrong these journalists get it. You can't post the screenshot of JP's interaction without realizing what a tyrant she is. Anyone who thinks otherwise has some sort of agenda.

This is upsetting on a lot of levels. It's witnessing firsthand how easily they can sway a narrative. I'm sure all those mouth breathers on Gawker and its ilk are completely under these shills' thumbs.
 
Far as Price's Twitter spergings, she also sperged about Gygax.
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The -4 Strength thing, much as they say is sexist, really makes one wonder if that shit was sexist in the first place or if Gygax was just copying some shit back when he made D&D long before most Kiwis were even in diapers.

>Complaining about realistic science in a game
>The game is a fantasy game where matter is conjured out of thin air

Jesus fucking christ. This is one really, really, dumb cunt. How the fuck did she ever get far?

Is it too much to hope that the gaming websites simultaneously burn what is left of their reputation AND get a hundred million dollar defamation lawsuit fired at them?

I think that's too much Hope. ArenaNet probably wants this as far away from them as possible and most gaming outlets are on the razor's edge of profitability anyway, it just wouldn't be worth it.

I've seen what having 'game journo friends' amounts to in this industry, and that's basically jack shit. Bethesda has black-listed Kotaku and what happened? Nothing. Nothing at all. Nobody cares. If I owned a rich ass gaming company, nobody but YouTubers and Twitch streamers would get review copies. I'd let those journo faggots burn. I'm not in it for your re.tarded critical theory analysis, I want to know the opinions of my audience, which you no longer have any access to.

Also, remind me what happened to Daniel Varva's game which was blacklisted by nearly every gaming website on the planet? Oh, that's right. It was a platinum seller in 2018, beating out other AAA titles on steam.

Game journalists are nothing, mean nothing and are only useful idiots for their corporate overlords, who are now preferring Twitch Streamers and YouTubers to advertise and peddle their wares, which is too technical for these critical theory fucktards to use to any competent degree.
 
As for this stupid cunt, maybe she'll find a job writing for Brianna Wu or a no-name mobile dev. Her days of writing in the AAA industry are fucking gone unless a soyboy or feminist is REALLY that stupid to hire her after this. Journalists may be playing harps for her, but she's fucking radioactive.

I'm pretty sure Bioware would hire her, they allow their employees to essentially say whatever they want without firing them.
 
Any lawfags know if it's possible for ArenaNet to sue these people? Some of the stuff I've read are easily disproven lies designed to hurt their business and borderline if not outright libelous.

Yes. Most of these shitty outlets will be out of business within a couple years anyway, though, so all they'd really do is put them into bankruptcy.

Maybe Forbes. The fact they actually now pay their shitty bloggers might make them a publisher and not protected by the CDA. Supposedly they were supposed to purge the worst of these idiots when they started paying them, but the fact that a lying piece of shit like this is still there says otherwise. If they want to act like Gawker, they can be treated the same.
 
Also, remind me what happened to Daniel Varva's game which was blacklisted by nearly every gaming website on the planet? Oh, that's right. It was a platinum seller in 2018, beating out other AAA titles on steam.

Game journalists are nothing, mean nothing and are only useful idiots for their corporate overlords, who are now preferring Twitch Streamers and YouTubers to advertise and peddle their wares, which is too technical for these critical theory fucktards to use to any competent degree.
Polishdevs succeeded in spite of a lack of positive coverage, but it would have helped them in a visible way if they had been supported. Likewise, most indies and smaller companies suck Kotaku & Polygon writer's dicks because otherwise they get zero sales unless their game is amazing. One part of that "Rise of the Indies" steam movie from 2015 that sticks out in my mind was this fat woman who made a mobile game that looked mediocre, and her short segment is summed up as "I made my game, but there were no players; no one was buying it. :( I had to do my own marketing, I didn't, and got almost no activity as a result." and then segues to guys hustling their asses off at PAX getting anyone and everyone to stop and try their demo game to get people excited and downloading later.

That's the self-fulfilling prophecy of power these sites still have. They have an audience of elbow-lickers still reading every day, and they generally buy whatever they're told to by these writers. The writers choose who gets coverage and who doesn't, effectively controlling if an indie withers on the vine or gets plenty of water and sunlight to flourish. Some indies ignore them and work around them(like Risk of Rain dev who pandered to his aggy daggy audience on 4chan and continues to do so) but for the socially inept it's just easier and more realistic to lick SJW boots than self-market on top of being creative computer wizards.

Blizzard could care less if Kotaku or Polygon shill them or not(they largely ignored the controversy around voice chat and trannies with Heroes of the Storm in April), but they're huge and know better. The little guys are still willing to say and do anything just for a little exposure and the money that follows.

Peter Thiel is the rich guy with a grudge against that website. He bankrolled the Hulk Hogan lawsuit that originally tanked them.
Fair that he did; they blew him out of the closet, so he blew them out of the courtroom on a solid case.
 
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I'm pretty sure Bioware would hire her, they allow their employees to essentially say whatever they want without firing them.

Which is totally unrelated to why I haven't bought a Bioware game in like six years now. Though truthfully them letting their employees insult their customers on social media is not the reason, but a symptom of a wider problem. Putting out shitty, rushed products and making development teams out of a bunch of beginners speaks louder about a companywide contempt for their customers than letting some sperg go wild on twitter.
 
Anyone remember Amy Hennig? One of the leads for the cult hit Legacy of Kain series of games, also did most of the writing. Beloved by fans, never raised any kind of stink over anything. Claims she's never felt discriminated against despite being in a male dominated industry.

That's probably why you don't remember her.
 
"-4 STR" is a joke; there is no edition of D&D that gives a -4 to strength for women or females.

Gary never gave women disadvantages in D&D except topping out percentage Strength (in OD&D and later AD&D if you got an 18 on your Strength roll and you were a fighter, you put a /%% next to it, a percentage number, so you might be 18/34 or 18/73 etc. and he capped it at 18/50 for women and females and said, to me, he immediately regretted it. That's all I'm going to say on the topic because this is dangerously close to powerleveling).

Anyway, Jessica Price is a dishonest cunt, what else is new.
 
>Complaining about realistic science in a game
>The game is a fantasy game where matter is conjured out of thin air

Jesus fucking christ. This is one really, really, dumb cunt. How the fuck did she ever get far?
It's also not unrealistic. Different species can sometimes breed. Lions and tigers, for instance. The offspring are often sterile, but not always. Species do not actually exist. They're a category humans use because it's easy and convenient, but it only reflects the underlying reality so much.

So she's also being smug as fuck about something she knows nothing about. Well, two things. Biology and gaming.
 
This is true, but there are different genres of fantasy. Some fantasy has elements of realisim, others are entirely fantastical. Tolkein is completely fantastical, so there's no expectation of realistic elements integrated. What she's commenting on is another genre entirely. So you can add literary genres to that list.
 
>Complaining about realistic science in a game
>The game is a fantasy game where matter is conjured out of thin air

Jesus fucking christ. This is one really, really, dumb cunt. How the fuck did she ever get far?

Ironically just being a woman. That's how she got ahead. For how much they scream that women have barriers for entry most male dominate industries bend over backwards to accomdate women and I have met and known some truly awful female programmers and artist solely hired for being diversity sake.

And she's got a problem with half elves existing because it's not realistic but having a strength modifier for women (because realistically women ARE weaker) is just BS sexism? Also it's rather telling that she got like a handful of likes on her intial statement and then a hundreds after declaring the Godfather of DnD a sexist. I bet the RP liberal circlejerk wore the skin of their dicks jerking it to that statement.
 
This is true, but there are different genres of fantasy. Some fantasy has elements of realisim, others are entirely fantastical. Tolkein is completely fantastical, so there's no expectation of realistic elements integrated. What she's commenting on is another genre entirely. So you can add literary genres to that list.
True. Species don't exist in Tolkien. Organisms don't either. Everything is just strains of the universal song sung by the Valar and Maiar under Eru's direction.
 
Ironically just being a woman. That's how she got ahead. For how much they scream that women have barriers for entry most male dominate industries bend over backwards to accomdate women and I have met and known some truly awful female programmers and artist solely hired for being diversity sake.

And she's got a problem with half elves existing because it's not realistic but having a strength modifier for women (because realistically women ARE weaker) is just BS sexism? Also it's rather telling that she got like a handful of likes on her intial statement and then a hundreds after declaring the Godfather of DnD a sexist. I bet the RP liberal circlejerk wore the skin of their dicks jerking it to that statement.

Sadly, you're probably right. No, wait. You're half right. She was a woman and she had the right politics. The female creative director and the writer of the entire Uncharted series up until 4 was forced out of the company due to 'creative differences' on the title (maybe it was the character and series she fostered for years and years was disrespected for muh social justice).

That's the thing with these faggots. Its not just being a woman. Its being the RIGHT woman. A conservative, well dressed woman with sharp programming skills will lose to the fat troon with a balding line of dyed blue hair and black lipstick for diversity, even though the troon doesn't have a quarter of the skills the other woman had, because the soyboys are addicted to that diversity. You see this a LOT with modern Naughty Dog, who fucking fired a woman who founded an award winning series because she wanted to do something with it they didn't want to do with it. I can't even imagine how much of a piece of shit faggot you have to be to fire the woman that wrote the entire series that was award winning and made your studio famous.

You see this time and time and time again. You not only have to be a minority, you have to be a minority with the right opinions.
 
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