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Do state-backed cybercriminals, for instance ones from China or Iran, ever interact with the Western ones that are described here? If so do they have any thoughts on each other?

I ask because we hear of CCP and Iranian hackers doing various things to US government institutions and so forth, and yet when that happens it feels as if it's nothing other than routine geopolitics regardless of its technical impressiveness. There's far less of a crazy story behind them. I mean, when was the last time you heard the real drama and details of a Chinese hacking group?
I'm not gonna pretend I know everything but here are some rumors / things I read / things I think.
It shouldn't be possible for parties involved in cybercrime to tell if they're dealing with a state-backed entity or just another cybercrime group. If you expose yourself as a state-backed group to anyone you risk drawing the attention of professional counterintelligence groups. Or I've heard rumors of people deliberately trying to scam state backed groups with fake data / nonexistent entries into networks. If you're dealing with a real state backed threat they would potentially be willing to cough up a lot of money for valuable material and if less experienced in these circles, would be more prone to getting scammed.

A note on Chinese state backed groups. The way I understand it, there are only a small handful of "official" state entities working directly on government orders, way more prevalent is an industry of private Chinese hacking contractors. Imagine a lot of smaller Chinese NSO-groups etc. These companies will get/compete for government contracts to (e.g.) develop malware or obtain data. I think the main reason why you don't hear a lot of details or drama from these groups is simply because they are encouraged not to be very public (not to establish a long term presence) lest you face some regime imposed consequence.
 
Do state-backed cybercriminals, for instance ones from China or Iran, ever interact with the Western ones that are described here? If so do they have any thoughts on each other?

I ask because we hear of CCP and Iranian hackers doing various things to US government institutions and so forth, and yet when that happens it feels as if it's nothing other than routine geopolitics regardless of its technical impressiveness. There's far less of a crazy story behind them. I mean, when was the last time you heard the real drama and details of a Chinese hacking group?

It is very difficult to say but my opinion would be that they do interact with each other just not in a way that is clear either side is working for a government. My anecdote is that on multiple forums I've seen things for sale that would only interest a government but not a normal cybercriminal donating sim funds to egirls. So there is probably some interactions.

A known example is Russians working with the Russian government to target the west. There is strong association with Russians working with westerners in terms of cybercrime. I would surprise me that China or other western rivals would not take advantage of a cybercriminal if what they are doing benefits the country they are from.

Cyber criminals are increasingly helping Russia and China target the US and allies, Microsoft says

Hong Kong protests: Were triads involved in the attacks?

The first example talks about what you are asking. The second one I think is better to look at when it involves governments working with criminals in simple terms. My opinion is that almost if not all governments will look the other way to certain criminals if it means they accomplisht their goal.

My only final point is that you don't read about the drama from certain countries like China or Iran because they are very repressive of information. Im sure dong long when he makes mistakes gets executed in front of his family instead of an arrest by some agency so then the world never hears about it. They don't have time for petty drama that many western skids involve themselves in.
 
Crumb's recent documentary about King Bob also includes interviews with current members of music com that talk about its history and culture:
(PreserveTube)

Easily his worst video to date, there's so much to talk about with Elijah but instead the video is 80% some "music com" jagoff saying the same thing over and over about how he wasn't respected in the music com like who gives a FUCK
 
Easily his worst video to date, there's so much to talk about with Elijah but instead the video is 80% some "music com" jagoff saying the same thing over and over about how he wasn't respected in the music com like who gives a FUCK
I don't watch this pig slop but I will try to at least be reasonable. Normal people aren't part of any of these communities so the lore can get too deep and most of the time the information is inaccurate because the source of it is some faggot with barely any actual affiliation with the subject. I think Crumb has had worse. Usually when he covers things that are already months old and tries to add onto it by providing a very microscopic summary of their history and then the same information already known.

I am making a guess that these youtubers are also in a tough spot that if they are too involved then the feds will start asking them questions about individuals they talk with so its better to be surface level because most the people watching this are normal people anyways.

I agree though that it's a surface level video like most of his so it's boring for people like me already familiar with this.
 
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An update to this situation. The new operators of Doxbin are users 'river' (Archive) and 'decimal' (Archive)

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From what I can tell there have been further changes to the Council and Mod positions
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Got sent this video of a call full of Discord Gangsters™️ trying to goad a member of their server into shooting at random people in public:

Some context from the comments:
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Former Breach forums admin Pompompurin (@pomp) gets out on parole for his various charges, immediately violates his parole agreements by going on Discord. Now faces full sentence of 20+ years.
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Taken from vx-underground (Archive / non-X view)

Edit: according to the judge Conor is "a 21-year-old young man who is probably closer to a 16 or 17-year-old in terms of actual maturity"
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Back in December, the Chinese CERT accused the US government of hacking two Chinese organizations. CERTCN has now published a tad more details and IOCs, including some of the attacking IPs—if you can call entire /16 subnets that. The organization claims the attacks took place during a 10:00 to 20:00 time window, from Monday to Friday on an Eastern US timezone. They also claim no attacks took place during US holidays.
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These subnets aren't even allocated in /16 blocks, so what's the point in that?
haha I have no idea. I hope it's just BS political theater to cover their own ass in regard to state sponsored hackers, though I thought many of theirs were 'North Korean'
 
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