Has right versus left moral fagging become an endless cycle that achieves nothing?

[Mothra1988]

I may be alone in this, but I recall the thing people on the internet claimed to hate most was moralizing of the right wing during the Bush years. It did seem insane at certain points such as when congress tried to legislate video games. Next, Obama comes in and suddenly a new brand of moral fagging gets a grip thanks to social media and people are getting "canceled" over saying harmless things. Again, it's just endless moralizing this time with a different ideology sans much religious justifications. Then people get sick of that, and now we have again a new brand of right wing moralizing over everything as some kind of response, even trying to re-litigate things like porn for the 10,000th time. Looking at previous decades I was not alive in, this cycle seems to keep repeating at some level with obnoxious people from both political spectrums.

Is anyone exhausted at this point? I think it's making me drift away from politics for good because it just seems like I have to endure the newest updated version of Mad Soccer Mom crying about everything, and then two versions of Mad Soccer Moms with ridiculous stringent standards throwing shit at each other. Not that I don't think certain things complained about are bad, I don't like the trooning of children for one, but no body focuses on the more important underlying macro issues such as the middle class being destroyed and entire career fields being eliminated due to technology. People talk about "bread and circuses" being used as a distraction but the non-ending rancor over dumb shit has to be itself a bread and circus distracting from other issues.

Instead, of you know worrying about why the economy is so fucked up, we have to focus on bogey man issues that nobody gave a shit about until they gave a shit about it. Everything just seems more fake and gay these days, even in the supposed underground discourse circles where we are supposed to be free of censorship. I think the people there are more pro-censorship than what the people claim to believe in the censored platforms, which is fucking crazy. I guess I've just had enough. It's old and boring. No one tries to change anything positively. I just see people on the internet bitching about how they can't burn people at the stake and can't just micromanage the entire world until it fits their utopia. It's absurd.

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

I'm not that tired.

 

[Schwarzwald]

I recall the thing people on the internet claimed to hate most was moralizing of the right wing during the Bush years. It did seem insane at certain points such as when congress tried to legislate video games.

Yes, I recall well when noted right wing extremist reactionaries *checks notes* Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton led the charge against video games and rock music.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I'm not exhausted, I am energized in the righteous struggle to smite my enemies and purge their lands until they become barren and uninhabitable like their women's wombs

 

[SwanSwanson]

The main reason the early "non normie" internet was calling out the rights "moralfagging" is because the American right would go over and talk about Christian morals and pearlclutch over dnd because its "satanic" but then be horrible people with horrible ideas. The war on terror, not helping poor people, these ideas were also supported by these people. Oftentimes the main perpetrator of this would be the fat ugly women seeking to grasp onto some sort of power.

Now that group is irrelevant and we're dealing with with moral fagging from the left.

From what I've gathered is that you don't seem to know what right and wrong really is(No offense), so you classify things as moral fagging and non moral fagging and take this absurdist stance.

Another thing I'd like to say is that the amoralist liberalism philosophy of the 90s and 2000s isn't really workable in peoples heads the same way anarchism can't work, some sociopath, or sociopathic force will take over and fill the power vacuum and that sociopathic force is progressivism. 90s liberalism isn't a counter to current day moral fagging and quiet apathy won't fix it.

 

[Meat Target]

One side thinks that they are being genocided if they can't masturbate on kids and show 5-year-olds porn. The other thinks that's fucked up.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Modern discourse has evolved through a process of social natural selection to have the minimum possible impact on anything of value while giving people the maximum illusion of importance.

So yes, whatever it is you're talking about it achieves nothing, because if it achieved anything something would actually be happening instead of everything politically being exactly like how it's been for decades but progressively shittier as entropy sets in.

 

[Mothra1988]

The main reason the early "non normie" internet was calling out the rights "moralfagging" is because the American right would go over and talk about Christian morals and pearlclutch over dnd because its "satanic" but then be horrible people with horrible ideas. The war on terror, not helping poor people, these ideas were also supported by these people. Oftentimes the main perpetrator of this would be the fat ugly women seeking to grasp onto some sort of power.

Now that group is irrelevant and we're dealing with with moral fagging from the left.

From what I've gathered is that you don't seem to know what right and wrong really is(No offense), so you classify things as moral fagging and non moral fagging and take this absurdist stance.

Another thing I'd like to say is that the amoralist liberalism philosophy of the 90s and 2000s isn't really workable in peoples heads the same way anarchism can't work, some sociopath, or sociopathic force will take over and fill the power vacuum and that sociopathic force is progressivism. 90s liberalism isn't a counter to current day moral fagging and quiet apathy won't fix it.

2010 leftists - video games/anime/whatever are bad for this reason!
2020 "alt-right" people that don't like 2010 leftists - video games/anime/whatever are bad for this very similar reason!

Yeah, I think I'm on the money that this entire cyclical process is autistic and fucking stupid. Arguing, "We want to be the leftists but for the right reasons this time," isn't very enticing. As stupid as the left is, they at least sometimes talk about the facade they want to make people's lives better in addition to the non-stop fear mongering and moral fagging. Why would I bother wasting my time even reading this shit when I already saw it in 2010 from different people? Because it's wrapped in more edgy "based" gift wrap? Sounds fucking boring. I think most of these people are so stupid they don't understand Trump's appeal was mostly an economic one.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Trump's appeal was because he implicitly alluded to white identity
All experts agree
Of course he lied like the fat orange bloated fuck that he is, but his retarded cult refuses to wake up cause libs are allegedly being owned (by being in academia and all positions of power, great own)

 

[Mothra1988]

Trump's appeal was because he implicitly alluded to white identity

Fucking horse shit. He won because he tapped into the economic angst of the rust belt and upper midwest over their industrial jobs leaving the US that the Democratic Party had ignored for years. It was his exact roadmap to his electoral map victory. People who just think he won becuase "he was against Mexicans" is midwit retard analysis from people so stupid they may as well be a hired CNN strawperson.

All experts agree

Yeah, you're calling anti-Trump mainstream media who lives on racial animus and wants to keep it alive experts. Don't think so.

Of course he lied like the fat orange bloated fuck that he is, but his retarded cult refuses to wake up cause libs are allegedly being owned (by being in academia and all positions of power, great own)

Just replace a couple words and this could be a left wing tweet.

 

[AgendaPoster]

economic angst

You deserve to be ruthlessly mocked for this but since I quite like you and you're a lovely user, I'll spare you this time
The experts know best. Accept the truth. Stop being a coward.

 

[SwanSwanson]

2010 leftists - video games/anime/whatever are bad for this reason!
2020 "alt-right" people that don't like 2010 leftists - video games/anime/whatever are bad for this very similar reason!

2010 leftists "vidya is misogynistic lets add our crappy ideology"

Everyone else current year "This is bad"

Apparently this makes the right and left the same to you

 

[Mothra1988]

You deserve to be ruthlessly mocked for this but since I quite like you and you're a lovely user, I'll spare you this time
The experts know best. Accept the truth. Stop being a coward.
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It's literally the reason he won, you tryhard /pol/ack. Jesus, him coming out against NAFTA was a huge deal because people in the Rust Belt blamed it for eliminating their factory jobs. Here let's look at his victory map:

His path to victory was literally Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa. The only non-Rust Belt state there is Iowa, which is mostly Corn Belt farming. Indiana is both Rust Belt and Corn Belt. Those states are not Mississippi. He didn't win them because they thought he was in the KKK. Those same exact states voted for Obama because he made the correct economic argument. US elections, when they're not fucked with, are won over the economy period.

I don't think you even live in the United States. You don't, do you? lol

 

[SwanSwanson]

It's literally the reason he won, you tryhard /pol/ack. Jesus, him coming out against NAFTA was a huge deal because people in the Rust Belt blamed it for eliminating their factory jobs. Here let's look at his victory map:

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His path to victory was literally Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa. The only non-Rust Belt state there is Iowa, which is mostly Corn Belt farming. Indiana is both Rust Belt and Corn Belt. Those states are not Mississippi. He didn't win them because they thought he was in the KKK. Those same exact states voted for Obama because he made the correct economic argument. US elections, when they're not fucked with, are won over the economy period.

I don't think you even live in the United States. You don't, do you? lol

How is it you're able to argue with him with actual substance but not me?

 

[AgendaPoster]

How is it you're able to argue with him with actual substance but not me?

I'm handsome and was genetically blessed with an unbearably high IQ, not to mention other parts of my body

I don't think you even live in the United States. You don't, do you? lol

Of course not. That would be humiliating. Who do you take me for?

 

[Mothra1988]

Of course not. That would be humiliating. Who do you take me for?

Yeah exactly. You have no idea how US politics work. The idea you thought Trump had support because of white nationalism is fucking hilarious.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

It's not moral fagging though. Yes, the right was moral fagging in a Christian-tine sense. The left though is not about moral fagging but enforcing the will of their cult on everything around them. One was to create a dumb "forced" morality while the other is merely using it as a subversion to brainwash and revolutionize society. The intent and goal is completely different.

and just to make a point:

Not that I don't think certain things complained about are bad, I don't like the trooning of children for one, but no body focuses on the more important underlying macro issues such as the middle class being destroyed

The middle class being destroyed is part of leftist political end game. So of course they won't talk about it or try to solve it and will enforce purposely or incidentally things that cause that outcome. The only way to prevent that on the right or even center would be to prevent leftist from voting or removing them from power in certain terms. Good luck with that though.

So most right/center /few sane leftist fight the lowest hanging fruit most any sane person can get behind because the solution won't be opposed or fought or argued against outside the insane, the sameis not true for the more important matters as you said which then requires more complex or obvious solutions that people do not want to hear because those solutions would require uncomfortable answers.

Instead, of you know worrying about why the economy is so fucked up,

And again as mentioned prior, all a means to a lefties ends. Even if someone proposed a soluiton the problem becomes one side does not care about the solution. The right wing at least cared even when moral fagging of not destroying the society it was harassing or chastising, the same is not true for the left. To them it's more than political one could argue they see it as their very purpose to push these ideals.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

It's only a cycle because one side pushes too hard. The right trying to ban D&D was just as silly as the left putting in feminism and troons into everything. As far as I'm concerned, the right-wing is doing 100% the right thing this time because the modern left is so crazy. I hope it achieves something, because when you have one side that promotes camwhoring as a virtue and has perverted books on the mandatory reading list that encourage children to look at porn, SOMETHING needs to be done.

Now yes, this is a left-wing tactic to draw attention away from more important matters like dealing with the big globalist banks or securing the border. But at some point you have to realize that there's no point in closing the border or breaking up the big banks if an entire generation has been raised as porn addicted degenerates who believe it's perfectly natural to spend your youth as a camwhore or femboy. Control of the media and culture in general is super important because they put subversive messages in there and use it to normalize perversions.

This has been admitted by the people who control the media, from big corporations like the tobacco industry (they put smoking in movies to make it cool), Hollywood communists, the FBI (you have to portray the FBI as invincible badasses or it's illegal to put them in your movie), and the military (same as the FBI). When they turn all your favorite characters into obese niggertroons, they're making a political statement about the superiority of that group. Same when they're advertising the glories of interracial marriage on TV commercials. I think anime and Japanese video games are also subject to this, that's why there's a lot of creepy anti-human messages, pro-degeneracy, and postmodernism in the genre especially today (the worst offender recently is Gundam: The Witch From Mercury), but fortunately there are still many pro-family anime.

Control of the media and culture is important and the right wing did the dumbest thing ever when they ceded cultural ground and tried making a parallel media where all it amounted to was shitty Christian rock and Kirk Cameron movies. If the media were under the good guys' control, we wouldn't have open degeneracy being promoted and they wouldn't be doing predictive programming to get us to accept scamdemics, deadly vaxx poison, and nuclear war as normal.

 

[AgendaPoster]

get us to accept scamdemics, deadly vaxx poison, and nuclear war as normal

You started really well why you hef to end like dis

 

[Stan]

I don’t care for self aggrandized people of any ideological stripe. Doing God’s Kingdom work is a ministry and a mitzvah, not a dick-measuring contest.