Hasidic Community - Everybody's favorite type of Jew. Moved to "Mass Debates" 109 times.

[Catch The Rainbow]

If you know why you follow the rule why can you not say it?

I did when i explained the reason we followed the rule in my initial post. keep up

View attachment 5783553
Just a little large scale ritual animal abuse to pass their yearly sins on to a scapebird.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapparot

kapparot is interesting, no one actually believes their sins are transported into the chicken. Initially it was a ritual designed to give one last chance to give charity to the poor. You're supposed to circle the chicken above your head 3 times gently while reciting a prayer and than giving it to someone who will slaughter it to give it to the poor for their last meal before Yom Kippur. You can also do kapparot with cash. This whole whipping a bird around thing is mostly just ignorant people who dont know the law and don't really care about animals.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I did when i explained the reason we followed the rule in my initial post. keep up

Now going back to why it's forbidden in the first place to do this and why the torah specifically forbids this practice: It was a Canaanite religious practice to cook a young goat in its own mothers milk as an offering to the gods in order to ensure a good harvest. The Torah forbids idolatry and so this practice was forbidden.

Yes I know. That wasn't what I asked. There is what the book says, and there's it in practice. I am asking: do you do it out of habit or of faith? There is a massive difference. I bring it up because of how much your "fences" you seek to build when the writings are clear and plain. That is all.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Yes I know. That wasn't what I asked. There is what the book says, and there's it in practice. I am asking: do you do it out of habit or of faith? There is a massive difference. I bring it up because of how much your "fences" you seek to build when the writings are clear and plain. That is all.

Out of faith.

@EyeGuy The day after you wrote that post, Flatbush Girl succeeded at securing the Get.

https://twitter.com/DBashIdeas/status/1764724340946325926

https://archive.is/80mDi

Can't wait for her next antics.

 

[pangolins]

Whats their food like?

According to this ex-hasidic woman it includes fish in a gelatine sauce and calves' leg jelly

 

[Return of the Freaker]

If only the yashivas taught them how to read, write, math or science

There's a yeshiva/small Jewish area not too far from where I used to live. Didn't know it was a yeshiva until I was in my 20s. Tried to look up more online, found their website. Died laughing when the homepage/only page was "pay my tuition"

 

[EyeGuy]

@EyeGuy The day after you wrote that post, Flatbush Girl succeeded at securing the Get.

Different woman. Not Malky.

Can't wait for her next antics.

Currently she's spamming Talmudic buzzwords on Instagram:

Spoiler: Images

In other news, history was made today as Aroin and Zali agreed to be in the same room together (the occasion was a funeral). They did not speak with each other.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Judaism is a religion where you read deeply into everything, every letter and usage of a word counts. We know why we follow the rule and put in fences in order to make sure the rule is kept.

You abandoned the rules on witchcraft and a lot more.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

You abandoned the rules on witchcraft and a lot more.

The rules of witchcraft are still in effect, no one is able to use it. Kabbalistic powers are not witchcraft.

 

[AgendaPoster]

The rules of witchcraft are still in effect, no one is able to use it. Kabbalistic powers are not witchcraft.

Fairly sure the rules applies to women from foreign goy tribes too.
Like it's the case with these forums, which are obviously infected with witchcraft.
What about homosexuality?
Where's the Jewish theocracy where it is punished as per the Torah.
Also, why are the secular and irreligious dudes not punished for polytheism and idol worship?

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

The more I learn about Hasidic Jews the more I realize how right I’ve been to hate their entire race. Absolutely disgusting tunnel goblins.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Fairly sure the rules applies to women from foreign goy tribes too.
Like it's the case with these forums, which are obviously infected with witchcraft.
What about homosexuality?
Where's the Jewish theocracy where it is punished as per the Torah.
Also, why are the secular and irreligious dudes not punished for polytheism and idol worship?

Cannot enforce laws without a Sanhedrin and there's no Sanhedrin until the Messiah comes. Now we leave it up to god. Not sure what you're talking about otherwise.

 

[DumbDude43]

The rules of witchcraft are still in effect, no one is able to use it. Kabbalistic powers are not witchcraft.

kabbalah is jewish occult mysticism right?
how mainstream is belief in it among jews? like, do most jews think it's legit or is it mostly seen as superstitious humbug?

 

[AgendaPoster]

Cannot enforce laws without a Sanhedrin and there's no Sanhedrin until the Messiah comes. Now we leave it up to god. Not sure what you're talking about otherwise.

That seems like complete abandonment of your earthly duties as the People of God and leaving it all for some ambiguous future.
I am 110% sure that none of your great prophets will approve. Moshe, Eliahu and not only did what they had to do, the hard way, without waiting. If it was commanded by the Lord, it was holy to them, and if they argued and negotiated with God, it was only their own human foolish nature that eventually recognized its need for complete submission to God.
Now, if you consider the Sanhedrin to be established by divine command, as I vaguely remember it was the case, then you MUST establish that. And no, just saying (again) that "it's too hard, God", won't work.
TL;DR you allowed secular liberalism to modify your religion and adapt it to modernity; that is idol worship itself, as God transcends history and petty human "progress".
I don't blame you, I blame weak humans in general. But we have to recognize that we all are in an active state of rebellion against God.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

That seems like complete abandonment of your earthly duties as the People of God and leaving it all for some ambiguous future.
I am 110% sure that none of your great prophets will approve. Moshe, Eliahu and not only did what they had to do, the hard way, without waiting. If it was commanded by the Lord, it was holy to them, and if they argued and negotiated with God, it was only their own human foolish nature that eventually recognized its need for complete submission to God.
Now, if you consider the Sanhedrin to be established by divine command, as I vaguely remember it was the case, then you MUST establish that. And no, just saying (again) that "it's too hard, God", won't work.
TL;DR you allowed secular liberalism to modify your religion and adapt it to modernity; that is idol worship itself, as God transcends history and petty human "progress".
I don't blame you, I blame weak humans in general. But we have to recognize that we all are in an active state of rebellion against God.

take your meds, no one is able to establish it because no one has the proper credentials since the chain of ordination was lost a thousand years ago. We lost it before there was a modern liberalism.

What is called "ordination" today is not true ordination, but rather, a certification that the individual is expert in certain areas of Torah law. Moreover, it implies that he has the permission of his teachers to render public decisions; without such permission it is forbidden.

Such ordination, however, in no way implies competence to serve on the Sanhedrin.

Therefore, no rabbinical court today can judge cases on its own authority. The only authority that such courts have is as agents of the earlier ordained courts. In this capacity, they can only judge commonly occurring cases involving actual loss on the part of the litigants. However, infrequently occurring cases, and those involving punitive damages or fines, require duly ordained judges, and therefore cannot be judged in contemporary rabbinical courts.

kabbalah is jewish occult mysticism right?
how mainstream is belief in it among jews? like, do most jews think it's legit or is it mostly seen as superstitious humbug?

Yes. It's pretty mainstream among Hasidim and most Jews. Some Jews don't believe in it like the Yemenites and the origin of the Zohar is pretty sketchy.

 

[AgendaPoster]

take your meds, no one is able to establish it because no one has the proper credentials since the chain of ordination was lost a thousand years ago. We lost it before there was a modern liberalism.

Awww, angry?
You don't have elders anymore?
Weren't they first appointed by a MAN, not God?
You lost your ways, and found reason upon reason to rebel and idol worship.
All I hear is endless motives to refuse implementing simple laws that were given to you.
Abandoned. Ignored. Even mocked, it can be argued.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Awww, angry?
You don't have elders anymore?
Weren't they first appointed by a MAN, not God?
You lost your ways, and found reason upon reason to rebel and idol worship.
All I hear is endless motives to refuse implementing simple laws that were given to you.
Abandoned. Ignored. Even mocked, it can be argued.

Yeah idk if this works for you with other religious people but you're not really pushing any buttons. We keep the laws we can keep and that's the best we can do.

 

[Seymour Butts]

The rules of witchcraft are still in effect, no one is able to use it. Kabbalistic powers are not witchcraft.

Imagine actually believing in kabbalistic powers and witchcraft

 

[EyeGuy]

kabbalah is jewish occult mysticism right?
how mainstream is belief in it among jews? like, do most jews think it's legit or is it mostly seen as superstitious humbug?

It's a normative belief in Hareidi Judaism, and Hasidim are especially enthusiastic about it. You will be regarded as a heretic if you say it's nonsense. Outside the Hareidi community attitudes are varied, running the gamut from full acceptance (followers of Rabbi Kook) to ambivalence (Modern Orthodoxy) to seething about how it's ruined Judaism (a handful of retarded Ashkenazim larping as Yemenites).

Incidentally, the things people will fall for in the name of Kabbalah are pretty funny. A lot of it is just traditional European/Arab superstition and folk beliefs dressed up as secret esoteric knowledge, but some of it is more exotic, like magic anti-masturbation rings:

 

[SuperConglomerateWhale]

There's a yeshiva/small Jewish area not too far from where I used to live. Didn't know it was a yeshiva until I was in my 20s. Tried to look up more online, found their website. Died laughing when the homepage/only page was "pay my tuition"

Most Yeshivas around me have similar websites as well, they're run by old men who have no technological ability or knowhow to have a decent website that explains who you are and what you do.

The rules of witchcraft are still in effect, no one is able to use it. Kabbalistic powers are not witchcraft.

Me and my semitic coworkers consistently joke about Jewish witchcraft, it's the only way to stop them from kvetching everyday.

 

[DumbDude43]

It's a normative belief in Hareidi Judaism, and Hasidim are especially enthusiastic about it. You will be regarded as a heretic if you say it's nonsense. Outside the Hareidi community attitudes are varied, running the gamut from full acceptance (followers of Rabbi Kook) to ambivalence (Modern Orthodoxy) to seething about how it's ruined Judaism (a handful of retarded Ashkenazim larping as Yemenites).

Incidentally, the things people will fall for in the name of Kabbalah are pretty funny. A lot of it is just traditional European/Arab superstition and folk beliefs dressed up as secret esoteric knowledge, but some of it is more exotic, like magic anti-masturbation rings:
View attachment 5784842

that story about someone about to be sentenced to prison putting on the magic ring and the next day the judge drops the case is great lol
reminds me of 'christian' telemarketing shit in america where they fleece their gullible boomer audience with all kinds of ridiculous promises