Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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"toxic accusatory culture antis have developed"
wtf are antis? Anti-rape fetishists?
Without going full-on into dog whistle conspiracy territory, “antis” is often used by fetishists to describe people opposed to their degeneracy. For furries, zoos, and pedos — “antis” as a phrase has been used to catch a lot of lolcows/horrorcows on this site.

I won’t go so far as to say Vivz is one of those degenerates, but her choice of language raises eyebrows.
 
Antis are like the opposite of stans, they dedicate their entire online presence to hating someone or something. However just like the term haters, lolcows and fans use will misuse it on anyone who's somewhat critical of them.
being real, i've never seen the term used by anyone who wasn't a lolicon defender or a dogfucker.
 
Looks like more people are going to find out
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Can't believe those pins in particular got the green light and no one seemed to object to them.
They aren't official, they're fanmade. And again because they aren't official, Vivzie shouldn't let them go through given she's technically indie still and can't afford fans being leeches. Undertale was big enough that the creator let fans sell their own merch. Vivzie could probably afford HH fanmerch now that its part of a studio but not for HB which is still indie and 100% hers.

Also I'm not surprised they got Vivzie's attention at all, the pins are of edgy shit and she clearly loves edgy shit.

Not sure where you're getting that she's sperging out over the animation. The only time she acknowledged the animation was in a single tweet.
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THIS is what people are flaming her over. The leak of Angel Dust's rape being shown in his musical number.
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If you watched the "Addict" music video, that clip shouldn't bother you too much.

We've (the ones who frequent the thread) seen this so many times you'd think it would be easy to tell if this is just new fans/onlookers "not getting it" or pot-stirring trolls/haters who were waiting to dogpile on Vivzie for anything no matter how minuscule the "reason". It could be both, the base she's attracted could be that retarded.

either way, she’s really fucking dumb engaging in pointless slap fights. She has a huge HH fanbase, sells a lot of merch, and two seasons set for a show. She shouldn’t give a fuck about twitter teenagers.
Like I said, Vivzie has developed the skill to walk away clean as a whistle from any mud that's been thrown her way. But I think also because of that, she could do this crap and still keep her job and credit no matter what she says or does. Besides, twatter X drama is the freeist publicity there still is. ANd I'll bet HH could use all it could get based on the first (rough) few episodes.
 
So in summary verbal Ace got horny one day and spent $50,000 on an animator to make a music video where an anime character sexually chases his avatar?

I know horny men are known to be easily separated from their cash, e.g. look all the "simp tips" OF and cam performers get. But Verbal Ace set an interesting video here. Hope it was worth it and it became something he wanked to a lot instead of it being looked at once then archived in the porn stash.
 
I've only learned about the creator of this show through the beatboxer drama has she always been a sped?
Most likely yes. Since you are new to this thread, I will try to give you a rundown on the retarded shit Viv has done. I’ll divide it into two parts: criticism of her media and criticism of her character:

Her Media:
- Helluva Boss, an online series set in the same universe as Hazbin, and which started out as a comedy about Imp hitmen and their antics (distinguishing itself from Hazbin, which was always intended to be more of a comedy/drama) has devolved into gay fujo melodrama that has alienated some of the people who were fans of the show (including many in this thread).
- Related, Viv has an obsession with gay male relationships, which often comes to dominate her media.
- Several characters in HB have been criticized for lacking depth or being one-note (namely Loona, Millie, and Stella, all of whom are women which really gets the noggin joggin).
- As I and others have repeatedly pointed out, the above criticism wouldn’t be an issue if she hadn’t turned HB into a pseudo-melodrama.
- Her shows use swearing and sex jokes as a crutch, which has led to the “written by VivziePop meme” where you take a scene from a show and just fuck its shit up with swearing and sex jokes:
- She had said she wouldn’t include trannies in the Hazbin-verse but one of the first couple episodes of HB had a trans Imp show up voiced by a tranny (although they weren’t that intrusive).
- This part of my post ended up being mostly about Helluva Boss, but many of the same issues date back to one of her first major works, a webcomic named Zoophobia (a can of worms in and of itself that others in this thread are probably more qualified to talk about). It namely suffers from a similar issue to HB where what started out with a creative and interesting premise ended up losing sight of itself.

Criticism of her character:
- Viv has had Twitter meltdowns related to just about all of the above criticisms (one particular example is when the video posted above went viral and she started passive aggressively tweeting/seething about the swearing criticism), and is just generally terminally online.
- This is despite the fact that she is effectively the public face of her animation studio, and is making business dealings with Amazon and A24.
- Is a massive fujoshi who clearly schlicks it to gay dudes, often under the veneer of being progressive.
- Alleged to have replaced the well-liked indie voice cast of the Hazbin pilot solely so she could get Broadway actors in the roles instead (most of whom have been considered a downgrade to the originals).
- Accused of mistreating and underpaying her animators.
- Is a furry.
- Is lol fat.
- A bunch more shit I either forgot, didn’t know about, or are unsubstantiated rumors.
 
GAIS GAIS THIS IS ALL TOO MUCH, YOU JUST NEED TO FOLLOW ME TO A HUG BOX FEDI-INSTANCE SO I CAN NERD OUT OVER NONCON PORNOGRAPHY.
*Continues Melty in her anger dome that is Threads*
- Is a massive fujoshi who clearly schlicks it to gay dudes, often under the veneer of being progressive.
What is funny is she said Hazbin would be a lot darker compared to Helluva Boss, and she's come to find out oh, the audience I built that came from the gay melodramatic bullshit that is Helluva Boss don't really like the idea of some dude getting his shit pushed in so publicly. I can't wait to see what else Vizie thought people would like and turns out they don't because they just want simple gay drama.
 
"toxic accusatory culture antis have developed"
wtf are antis? Anti-rape fetishists?
Kinda depends, a lot of people get called antis now for different reasons to the point where literally everyone is one at this point unless they're a 100% no limits degenerate. Sometimes it's retarded shit like people who disagree with certain characters being a couple or "ship" despite both characters being normal, consenting adults. Other times, it's literally just people who disagree with pedophilia or bestiality and say something about it. You used to only be an anti if you sperged about the same fandom bullshit 24/7 but now it's just a word casually thrown around if you so much as go "Hey, I don't like that"
I know this because I talk to women and they all engage in this type of drama.
 
Kinda depends, a lot of people get called antis now for different reasons to the point where literally everyone is one at this point unless they're a 100% no limits degenerate. Sometimes it's retarded shit like people who disagree with certain characters being a couple or "ship" despite both characters being normal, consenting adults. Other times, it's literally just people who disagree with pedophilia or bestiality and say something about it. You used to only be an anti if you sperged about the same fandom bullshit 24/7 but now it's just a word casually thrown around if you so much as go "Hey, I don't like that"
I know this because I talk to women and they all engage in this type of drama.
I'm reminded of OWS. If you weren't nodding your head to what every idpol obsessed retard with a megaphone was saying then you were a fascist. I don't feel like these two things are all that disconnected behind the scenes either.
 
She's absolutely in the right even if she's being autistic about it. Imagine giving a fuck that an edgy adult cartoon has edgy adult artists working on it. There are so many instances of cartoon nextwork and Nickelodeon animators drawing on-model porn of the preschool shows they're working on, these people should just be glad Angel is an adult man.
 
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