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Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread
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Kind of my point. Lucifer was cast down by the other Angel's. He was judged. Vaggie wasn't with other higher ranked angels above adam entirely ignorant of the purges much less what occured during them.
Unless the series has a unique reveal Lucifer is the only angel in lore barred from heaven ( least so far). Vaggie might not of been able to physically return without her wings but she isn't fallen.
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This is like that one time Steven Universe fans got some girl to attempt suicide after she drew art of one of the characters not being fat enough.
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Being 100% fair the guy did live. Which is probably worse for keffals than them dying.
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Back in the day, some dude would lose everything on a bad investment or went through some nasty divorce, and he would find a quiet place and hang himself.
Now-a-days, we have worthless faggots killing themselves over the most inane shit possible and releasing huge manifestos, that nobody really reads but instead are used by opportunistic grifters for clout and xitter likes.
Even suicides suck now, and I'm 100% sure that jews are to blame for this somehow.
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Given that most people in heaven don't know about the extermination but will probably find out now (especially with Sir Pentious up there), I wonder if that will play a role in how the situation plays out? I'd imagine most heaven-dwellers will be outraged and it could force the system to change. At the very least cause a conflict between the exterminators and angels who knew about it and everyone else in heaven.
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they weren’t fair with us so no
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If this person actually an heroed, Hazbin probably wasn't the actually reason. This person definitely had some other shit going on, or more likely, not going on, that led them to suicide. They probably had a very empty life and felt that this show and the fandom was the only thing they had, the only realm where they even existed. I feel really bad for people who are suicidal or commit suicide (though not for people who use it as a manipulation tactic). The desire to be alive is something that comes naturally to most people so it's hard to even imagine what it's like to not have that.
HOWEVER, this person seems to have had the money to go to therapy and work on what was *actually* making them suicidal, e.g. having zero sense of self to the point basing their identity and self worth on a fucking cartoon. I'm torn here. The empathic side of me says "this poor person was suffering" (allegedly), the more rational side of me says "bro it's fucking Hazbin hotel".
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That's because, when you have children and you excessivley coddle and "protect" them to insane degrees and they expirence no bad things ever in their life ever from ages 0-18, then that means you (the parents) are the worst thing they will expirence for their entire childhood. What I mean by that is: because no parent is perfect, and the child has never expirenced a bad thing in their life thanks to helicopter parenting, any mess up you made, no matter how small the mistake or the conflict, to the child, it is terrible. The child has never expirenced anything worse then this conflict. It makes the teen years hellish for both the child and the parent. When the child turns 18 and they encounter the real world and how bad it can sometimes get, they have no tolerance for any kind of mental pain or hardship, and small things that you would never sweat over, is anguish for the over-coddled. We are seeing a generation of over-coddled adults who have no tolerance for any hardship or mental pain. By mental pain I mean anything from bullying and insults, to the troons being told they are not real women. So they kill themselves for the most asinine reasons because their fragile mental state is incompatible with life and living in this world.
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I have multiple critiques of this show. I just finish watching it and I have to say it is mediocre at best. And just bad anywhere below that rating. I guess the main problem I had was with the pacing. It was too fast, the production was clearly rushed and they didn't leave time besides main story beats. There was zero filler what so ever, which is not a good thing. Filler used sparingly can flesh out characters and provide interesting interaction. It also helps pacing and smooths out transitions between major plot beats. This made it feel more like a 70 minute action film with no moments of slowing down. Note this is not a problem with the medium, Its just the fault of the creators, Owl House did this just fine.
The next problem I have with it is the music, I did not like most of the songs. There were only three songs I liked, and only two of them in my eyes enhanced the plot. Those being the Vox and Alastor duet and the Husker and Angel Dust duet. Both were catchy and showed off the dynamics of the characters quite well. Besides that rest of the music seemed forced, and most of it is rather terrible. Take this as a grain of salt as I am not a fan of most musicals.
I think what annoyed me in this show the most was Charlie, I dont like her character. Happy and optimistic characters done right can be great, again look at the Owl House, or Spongebob (early seasons.) They can be done right but the problem is that she just kind of felt 1 dimensional, like she was flanderized right out of the box. There was one drawing Vizie did years ago of her that put her in a pose which gave off the vibes of a calm and selfless person who is conscientious and accommodating, like a hotel manager. I think giving her that personality would of been a better choice. Since she is the Daughter of the lucifer, I imagine making her main flaw pride would of been cool. In this way she's trying to help the population of hell because of her pride, of her pride in her domain, her residents. In this sense it would make her a reflection of her father, her father being overly hateful of the residents because of his pride. Charlie being the opposite.
Rest of the characters I did not actually mind mostly, besides Nifty, Nifty deserves nothing but contempt. Also she's loli bait, which makes her worst. Vaggie was ok, I found her backstory less compelling then some of the fan theories I read before it was revealed (Militant or some type of radical. Which could still be plausible as something she was before she was an angel).
Speaking of Angels, I actually liked Angel Dust, his story was the most compelling out of the entire cast. Besides that accursed song, I found his character one of the more fleshed out ones in the story. Also Huskers and Angel's Duet was one of my favorite songs, I really like the concept of two opposites bonding over well, bondage. Stuck in a terrible situation with no way out, so they use each other as company in their hellish nightmare. Its bittersweet and one of the better parts of the story telling in the show. Husker is my favorite character because of this.
Alastor was to me just fanservice, added a shitty tumblr bait character. He is just bland, not even funny just boring too me. I preferred Alastor in the pilot, because at least he was funny. I don't hate the character, but he's not good either. Though with the ending I feel like they actually be doing something with the character, which might end up well. But the writing at this point has ended up 20% good 80% bad, so most likely its gonna be shit.
In conclusion I felt like the basic plot of this show had potential in the hands of a competent dramedy writer, but instead we got Viziepop. Who for all herautistic artistic talents, Is a mediocre writer at best. She did not have the luxury of Brandon Roger helping her out on this one and it shows (though an associated of Brandon roger did work on the two best episodes, makes ya think). The plot itself has many loopholes and many of them annihilated my suspension of disbelief due to them being more eye catching then the show itself. I rate it a 4/10, only 2 episodes were good In my opinion, rest were boring. Watch it if your curious, but there are many other shows which are better and more engaging then Hazbin Hotel.
Sorry for my autistic rambling, I've been wanting to rant about this show since I've seen it.
The next problem I have with it is the music, I did not like most of the songs. There were only three songs I liked, and only two of them in my eyes enhanced the plot. Those being the Vox and Alastor duet and the Husker and Angel Dust duet. Both were catchy and showed off the dynamics of the characters quite well. Besides that rest of the music seemed forced, and most of it is rather terrible. Take this as a grain of salt as I am not a fan of most musicals.
I think what annoyed me in this show the most was Charlie, I dont like her character. Happy and optimistic characters done right can be great, again look at the Owl House, or Spongebob (early seasons.) They can be done right but the problem is that she just kind of felt 1 dimensional, like she was flanderized right out of the box. There was one drawing Vizie did years ago of her that put her in a pose which gave off the vibes of a calm and selfless person who is conscientious and accommodating, like a hotel manager. I think giving her that personality would of been a better choice. Since she is the Daughter of the lucifer, I imagine making her main flaw pride would of been cool. In this way she's trying to help the population of hell because of her pride, of her pride in her domain, her residents. In this sense it would make her a reflection of her father, her father being overly hateful of the residents because of his pride. Charlie being the opposite.
Rest of the characters I did not actually mind mostly, besides Nifty, Nifty deserves nothing but contempt. Also she's loli bait, which makes her worst. Vaggie was ok, I found her backstory less compelling then some of the fan theories I read before it was revealed (Militant or some type of radical. Which could still be plausible as something she was before she was an angel).
Speaking of Angels, I actually liked Angel Dust, his story was the most compelling out of the entire cast. Besides that accursed song, I found his character one of the more fleshed out ones in the story. Also Huskers and Angel's Duet was one of my favorite songs, I really like the concept of two opposites bonding over well, bondage. Stuck in a terrible situation with no way out, so they use each other as company in their hellish nightmare. Its bittersweet and one of the better parts of the story telling in the show. Husker is my favorite character because of this.
Alastor was to me just fanservice, added a shitty tumblr bait character. He is just bland, not even funny just boring too me. I preferred Alastor in the pilot, because at least he was funny. I don't hate the character, but he's not good either. Though with the ending I feel like they actually be doing something with the character, which might end up well. But the writing at this point has ended up 20% good 80% bad, so most likely its gonna be shit.
In conclusion I felt like the basic plot of this show had potential in the hands of a competent dramedy writer, but instead we got Viziepop. Who for all her
Sorry for my autistic rambling, I've been wanting to rant about this show since I've seen it.
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What would Charlie do with Keffals, Liz, and CWC? Their punishments would be transmutation into kiwi-anthros, but also feature individual curses:
I'm pretty sure she'd shove her trident up all three of their amholes and go back to coloring with crayons but I was just wondering what other dear farmers thought.
- Keffals would be compelled to drink bathtub gin and be beaten by children at random times.
- Liz would be a Cassandra - always able to predict the future but nobody would believe him, also he'd be blind and his face would be a whomp with a beak.
- CWC would be True And Honest At All Times, and be raped non stop by old ladies. Susan would make him her bitch.
I'm pretty sure she'd shove her trident up all three of their amholes and go back to coloring with crayons but I was just wondering what other dear farmers thought.
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I don't know about her character beyond the three or so lines of dialogue in the pilot but she's the only one with a design that doesn't remind me of furfaggotry or tumblr faggotry so she gets a pass. I like Sir Pentious too.
That might just be you.
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Only know about CWC, but Charlie would basically be a Female Bob cause Chris would be a freeloader
Though it's funny you mention Chris since he's a fan
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Nifty is just annoying also, even more so then Charlie. Lolibait in general is just disgusting, Vizie was trying to appeal to the majority of her audience, lolicons.
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I really doubt it, as Vivzie isn't going to write anything thought provoking, it will just be the typical schlock we've seen so far. The biggest problem is both Hell and Heaven are the same thing in the show as opposed to having a difference in nature.
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It's like zoo animals vs animals in the wild. When you take away the need to fight for survival, the rate of mental illness skyrockets even when you provide the animal with everything they need for survival including enrichment & fulfillment elsewhere.
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I think the majority of her audience are womanchildren who like to watch effeminate gay men have sex, not degens who wanna fuck little girls.
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The brony killer did kill all those FedEx workers over them losing his applejack toy order. Them liking Niffty sounds pleasurable.
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Did you mean plausible or does the idea tickle you in your private parts?
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Trying to combine plausible with plausible. But autocorrect got in the way. Killing people over waifus a horrorcow genre. Chris-Chan at least haven’t killed everyone over Sonichu yet.