Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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It really bugs me that the series kicked off with Adam almost immediately halving the extermination clock. He had a cause and a motive to do that, but I feel like that kind of "ticking clock" sensation would've been better off at the end of the season instead of the start. That way, they could've actually had time to introduce each character, their flaws, and their possible pathways to redemption (if they choose redemption in the first place). It would've also been the perfect way to introduce side characters to the main cast, by having them resolve individual conflicts (Angel vs. Val, the one-sided bond between Alastor and Husker, Vox and his obsession with one-upping Alastor, etc.) from episode to episode, in anticipation of a grander followup season where we get to see ALL these characters put through their paces in lieu of the incoming onslaught.

Also, if you're going to make Vaggie into Little Miss B-Plot, give her a single episode that goes over who she is, and why I should give a shit. Don't just squirrel it into an already established plotline when it's convenient; watching her uncomfortably trot through the pearly gates would have a lot more oomph behind it if we knew prior that she was angelic. It would also be interesting if Velvette had an actual introduction, and was the self-proclaimed "backbone of the Vees" while simultaneously backstabbing Vox & Val in order to give Alastor (who doesn't necessarily need/want the info, but appreciates the gesture) and Angel (desperately trying to get away from Val at any given opportunity) intel on what the monitor and the moth are doing so they can carry out their respective goals. By extension, this also would've meant she contributed to Angel's possible redemption as well as assisted everyone during the final battle by cockily coaxing Carmilla into giving up angelic weaponry.

For whatever reason, it blows my mind whenever women fail to write women, especially when we've SEEN Viv is willing to write most of them as conniving and two-faced. It's weird and overdone in HB, but underutilized here.
 
rate me retarded and autistic if you guys have seen this, i looked through the thread in the last day or so and didn't see it. apparently someone is claiming they killed themselves over a hazbin hotel ship? There's a twitter thread | archive and a big ol' fuckin' google doc | archive

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whole thing could easily be an attention grab, but the google doc is pretty long, kinda funny. i've read through a bit of it so far, some good bits.

"guys come on, i paypigged hard for this series, why don't you all love me and my opinions?"
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discussing how much they dropped for early access.
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tyler the creator was really onto something with that tweet.
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"Fans bullied the Sonic movie to redo the character model"
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Waiting to see if this is legit.
 
rate me retarded and autistic if you guys have seen this, i looked through the thread in the last day or so and didn't see it. apparently someone is claiming they killed themselves over a hazbin hotel ship? There's a twitter thread | archive and a big ol' fuckin' google doc | archive

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whole thing could easily be an attention grab, but the google doc is pretty long, kinda funny. i've read through a bit of it so far, some good bits.

"guys come on, i paypigged hard for this series, why don't you all love me and my opinions?"
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discussing how much they dropped for early access.
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tyler the creator was really onto something with that tweet.
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"Fans bullied the Sonic movie to redo the character model"
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rate me retarded and autistic if you guys have seen this, i looked through the thread in the last day or so and didn't see it. apparently someone is claiming they killed themselves over a hazbin hotel ship? There's a twitter thread | archive and a big ol' fuckin' google doc | archive

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whole thing could easily be an attention grab, but the google doc is pretty long, kinda funny. i've read through a bit of it so far, some good bits.

"guys come on, i paypigged hard for this series, why don't you all love me and my opinions?"
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discussing how much they dropped for early access.
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tyler the creator was really onto something with that tweet.
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"Fans bullied the Sonic movie to redo the character model"
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The Power of Autism: When Being a Fat Loser Kills
 
These people are impossible to please. Everything she would suggest would be wrong in their eyes.
Which you should never appeal to them in the first.

In this modern age, creators need to stop pandering to people and just focus on making a good story.

For whatever reason, it blows my mind whenever women fail to write women, especially when we've SEEN Viv is willing to write most of them as conniving and two-faced. It's weird and overdone in HB, but underutilized here.
I think part of the reason why women like Viv suck at writing is because most of them are a bunch of retarded geeks.
 
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If I remember correctly Steven Universe fandom didn't have a suicide, an attempted suicide but not a completed suicide.

So...


Steven Universe: 0
Hazbin Hotel: 1

And not to sound like a heartless bitch, but why the fuck you kill yourself a couple of weeks before the show comes out. She brought the package premier pass and everything. She kill yourself over a show without even watching the damn show.

Which you should never appeal to them in the first.

Guys, in this modern age, creators need to stop pandering to people and just focus on making a good story.


I think part of the reason why women like Viv suck at writing is because most of them are a bunch of dorks and geeks.

You know, the type that bullies like to pick on.
Not just any type of dorks and geeks but the yaoi obsessed girls that would ship their male classmates together.
 
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Which you should never appeal to them in the first.

Guys, in this modern age, creators need to stop pandering to people and just focus on making a good story.


I think part of the reason why women like Viv suck at writing is because most of them are a bunch of retarded geeks.

Kiwi Farms is by faggots, for faggots, about even bigger faggots, we're all on fucking computers by and large on TOR sneeding about Hazbin fucking Hotel, CWC, and trannies. We're just as fucking 'geeky' but plenty of us write circles around this shit shooting from the hip by following through on the promises set up but never delivered and sticking to the premises, since Vivz manages to make promises and set up premises but gets out of delivering on them by just setting up more plot hooks to forget about.

Vivz isn't pandering since she's much the same as most of her fans, albeit an incredibly talented animator and character designer and slightly less fat. She isn't out of her depth, she's got her water wings on in the kiddie pool and having a blast, and so are her friends.

As I said, we're the faggots over analyzing shit because we like deeper writing, and there's drama all over Vivz, her work, and her fandumb to laugh at. They're the bigger faggots faking suicide over shipping cartoons.

Exactly!

They’re the types of girls people avoid because they’re creepy perverts.

The type of girls who spend all their time writing crappy FanFiction, and watching cartoons & anime.

The type of girls who are prime targets for bullies.

Back in the oughts, nerd girls weren't remotely as bad as they often are now, probably because they were first exposed to it and it was amateur scanlations of Japanese stuff that was kept secret, not part of a pervasive culture of hyper-sexuality soaking into every facet of their social life and sense of self.

I dated and banged more than a few, but I was also a college student with lower standards than now. That said, they were absolutely just nerdy young women, not completely ruined fujos. It's fucked up and sad to see how many poonered out. I expected most to get fat, not butcher themselves.

Bleh.
 
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rate me retarded and autistic if you guys have seen this, i looked through the thread in the last day or so and didn't see it. apparently someone is claiming they killed themselves over a hazbin hotel ship? There's a twitter thread | archive and a big ol' fuckin' google doc | archive

View attachment 5716281

whole thing could easily be an attention grab, but the google doc is pretty long, kinda funny. i've read through a bit of it so far, some good bits.

"guys come on, i paypigged hard for this series, why don't you all love me and my opinions?"
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discussing how much they dropped for early access.
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tyler the creator was really onto something with that tweet.
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"Fans bullied the Sonic movie to redo the character model"
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The Steven Universe fandom walked so the Hazbin Hotel fandom could run.
Then again, there's a high chance that this is probably a falseflag.
 
I figured out why this show is so popular despite its writing and plotholes that won't get filled if it's anything like Helluva Boss. It's an Americanized BL/yaoi. Anyone that has ever read them knows that the characters have horrid communication and do shit that makes absolutely no sense. The "plot" exists to lead you to the juicy bits. The juicy bits is the whole point. Hazbin Hotel is the Avatar: The Last Airbender of BL/yaoi.
 
I wonder what phenomenon causes such strong emotional reactions to imaginary romantic relationships? It's not the first time someone's done something drastic over somebody disagreeing with their favourite ship (Undertale needle cookies come to mind). Is it just attachment to your particular form of escapism? Lack of romantic relationships in your own life and subsequent replacement of them through fiction? Autism? I know that I'm gonna sound callous here, but how fragile do you have to be to kill yourself over a cartoon twink not buggering a particular other cartoon twink that you wanted him to? Walk away from the screen, close your eyes, don't make someones else's fiction a part of your identity.
I can't even go on a rant about the industrial society and its consequences, since people have been feeling strong emotions over fictional stories as long as they have existed, but the Internet is definitely pouring more gasoline on that particular fire. All in all, human psychology is fascinating and it's a real shame that a young person has killed herself over gay technicolor demons.
 
put in other words:
if nothing else, Vivz has done something all but a select few indie animators haven't: she actually achieved her dream without compromising her vision (even though, in this case, it would be really, really beneficial for her to do so). And that gets respect from me. A begrudging respect, but respect nonetheless.
 
Besides, all he's doing is saying "I like my pandering."
he's licking the window of self-awareness, but he will never be able to reach the point where he understands in his active mind that all he wants is to be told things he already believes and to never face adversity of literally any severity, no matter how incidental or minute it seems to someone who consistently faces real hardships in their life.
 
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