Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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SpergPatrol said:
Oh you forgot they tried to falsely accuse her of associating with someone they claimed was a pedophile (they weren't), then later claimed she was a pedophile for artwork she drew when she was 15, and racist for commenting under a joke of blaire white's of her in a facemask that was black (Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the joke was Blaire made)
There were also "screens," of comments of her apparently being racist, etc that turned out to be out of context and not fucking joking here they also tried to spread around that she also tried to sue disney over zootopia being like her zoophobia comic (This is false due to no legal document exist showing this and vivian also confirmed this never happened).
Then the funniest one that vivian is an art thief because she was friends with someone and they design a character together and when she stopped being their friends made a new character similar to it.

The only one I can't show anymore is this funny ass slap fight she had with someone named The Angry Librarian over character design and all that exists of it now is the librarian person saying why they took it down.


There is a whole nest of lulz that was happening for this was released, you all should check it out, it is the funniest shit you will see.
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The person who made this video has made a follow-up video on it.
 
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Racist Trash said:
A Tomar has appeared to tell us about merch and also that the Zoophobia based short will be out next week and new helluva boss episodes are "Very, very soon". (Shortly after Halloween perhaps?)
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Ooh, that's good to hear. I know viziepop has a spot for her show, but I was worried it would end up stuck in development hell.
 
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Private Pyle said:
Kind of my biggest fear, second only to messing up their lore through shitty retcons. The political joke in HB was particularly unfitting give that the show is much less serious than HH; kind of hard to take a jab at climate change in the same episode you violently kill off a bratty kid.
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That and extreme amount of the cast being LGBTs, save for Killjoy, who is being presented as just a dislikable bitch.

EDIT: Have seen information that Niffty is straight too, but can't confirm.
 
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GaddafyTheLooneyDuck said:
That and extreme amount of the cast being LGBTs, save for Killjoy, who is being presented as just a dislikable bitch.

EDIT: Have seen information that Niffty is straight too, but can't confirm.
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Her introduction did establish her neat-freakness and her disappointment on the lack of guys (she thought Angel was a girl).

Doesn't sound that much of a reach.
 
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XtrmGamr719 said:
Her introduction did establish her neat-freakness and her disappointment on the lack of guys (she thought Angel was a girl).

Doesn't sound that much of a reach.
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With her character information in consideration, to me it seemed that she was unhappy about the fact that there is no men around, whom she could try to start a romance with.
 
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GaddafyTheLooneyDuck said:
That and extreme amount of the cast being LGBTs, save for Killjoy, who is being presented as just a dislikable bitch.

EDIT: Have seen information that Niffty is straight too, but can't confirm.
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Oh yeah that is definitely something that worries me though I always get a light chuckle imagining that their exteme promiscuity is what got them into hell to begin with. I will way however that so far it doesn't seem as pushed as something like the the trainwreck that is Voltron for example (Which funnily enough is why some idiots call Angel dust homophobic when the whole sex worker thing, as comedic as it is isnt treated as his only character trait)

Also Millie and Moxxie exist and is kinda treated as the most stable lmao. But yeah again point is, it's definitely got some troubling signs but so far I haven't found it too forced and I hope it stays that way but maybe tone it down a little bit would be better.
 
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Knojkamarangasan_#4 said:
Oh yeah that is definitely something that worries me though I always get a light chuckle imagining that their exteme promiscuity is what got them into hell to begin with. I will way however that so far it doesn't seem as pushed as something like the the trainwreck that is Voltron for example (Which funnily enough is why some idiots call Angel dust homophobic when the whole sex worker thing, as comedic as it is isnt treated as his only character trait)

Also Millie and Moxxie exist and is kinda treated as the most stable lmao. But yeah again point is, it's definitely got some troubling signs but so far I haven't found it too forced and I hope it stays that way but maybe tone it down a little bit would be better.
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Moxxie was revealed to be bi. https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/1308964753570754562/photo/1

Speaking of bis, Pentious may also be one, Viv haven't decided on it yet though. Vox and Valentino are also pans/bis. Shite, even Husk is a pansexual!

It doesn't really ruin anything (as of now), just seems too strange. Vivienne is sure having an unhealthy frenzy with this.

"is kinda treated as the most stable" you mean their relationship or?
 
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Knojkamarangasan_#4 said:
Oh yeah that is definitely something that worries me though I always get a light chuckle imagining that their exteme promiscuity is what got them into hell to begin with. I will way however that so far it doesn't seem as pushed as something like the the trainwreck that is Voltron for example (Which funnily enough is why some idiots call Angel dust homophobic when the whole sex worker thing, as comedic as it is isnt treated as his only character trait)

Also Millie and Moxxie exist and is kinda treated as the most stable lmao. But yeah again point is, it's definitely got some troubling signs but so far I haven't found it too forced and I hope it stays that way but maybe tone it down a little bit would be better.
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Interesting to note with something like Voltron (and Star Vs and SU to a lesser extent) is that they didn’t start pushing the LGBT subject until later on in their run. Hazbin and Helluva only have pilots so far and Viv has been upfront about all their sexuality. In a way, it’s kind of refreshing. At the very least, shipping bullshit will be kept to a minimum.
GaddafyTheLooneyDuck said:
Moxxie was revealed to be bi. https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/1308964753570754562/photo/1

Speaking of bis, Pentious may also be one, Viv haven't decided on it yet though. Vox and Valentino are also pans/bis. Shite, even Husk is a pansexual!

It doesn't really ruin anything (as of now), just seems too strange. Vivienne is sure having an unhealthy frenzy with this.

"is kinda treated as the most stable" you mean their relationship or?
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I assumed it was because of the fact that Viv herself is bi, therefore she would be open about the LGBT content. A cynical person would say that she’s trying to overcompensate in the face of controversy but that doesn’t really make sense. Compared to other shows, Viv doesn’t sugarcoat the fact that her characters are (albeit sympathetic) assholes in hell, gay or otherwise.
 
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Private Pyle said:
I assumed it was because of the fact that Viv herself is bi, therefore she would be open about the LGBT content. A cynical person would say that she’s trying to overcompensate in the face of controversy but that doesn’t really make sense. Compared to other shows, Viv doesn’t sugarcoat the fact that her characters are (albeit sympathetic) assholes in hell, gay or otherwise.
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Only a very few of them seem to be sympathetic. The correct term you're probably looking for is likable villain and asshole characters.

If she is bi, good for her, there is no need to make 95% of the cast bis/pans for the sake of it.
 
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GaddafyTheLooneyDuck said:
Only a very few of them seem to be sympathetic. The correct term you're probably looking for is likable villain and asshole characters.

If she is bi, good for her, there is no need to make 95% of the cast bis/pans for the sake of it.
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I mean it’s her show so if she wants to make Hell into the technicolor of debauchery that is the current state of LGBT+ then fine.

It only really becomes boring when it becomes their sole trait as characters (Angel is more that he’s a sexual deviant possibly not by choice then just a faggot for me) and certainly worse if she pulls the same bullshit as Rebecca Sugar or, god forbid, Noelle Stevenson.
 
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Private Pyle said:
Interesting to note with something like Voltron (and Star Vs and SU to a lesser extent) is that they didn’t start pushing the LGBT subject until later on in their run. Hazbin and Helluva only have pilots so far and Viv has been upfront about all their sexuality. In a way, it’s kind of refreshing. At the very least, shipping bullshit will be kept to a minimum.

I assumed it was because of the fact that Viv herself is bi, therefore she would be open about the LGBT content. A cynical person would say that she’s trying to overcompensate in the face of controversy but that doesn’t really make sense. Compared to other shows, Viv doesn’t sugarcoat the fact that her characters are (albeit sympathetic) assholes in hell, gay or otherwise.
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I think what helps in the case of HH and HB is that since none of the characters are being pushed at flawless paragons their sexual preferences are used more to service plot and joke set-ups like Blitzo having a fling with that married dude. They feel less like “look how many rainbow flags we got!” and more like they were added based on which storyline avenues and jokes they opened up.

Although I do find it kinda funny that the biggest complaint from SJWs and anti-SJWs alike complaining that there’s too many queers in Hell.
 
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One Man Bland said:
Although I do find it kinda funny that the biggest complaint from SJWs and anti-SJWs alike complaining that there’s too many queers in Hell.
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Wit how plenty of religions have a long history of calling homosexuality a sin and the whole Westboro 'Baptist' 'God Hates Queers' shtick, I can see why that would keep getting the biggest complaints here.
 
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Apparently on the Pan Pizza Podcast, she confirms there will no transgender characters.
 
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