Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Gave her a mix of Stella's and Stolas's feathers/features.
Thank you for incorporating that. I always found it annoying that the only think Octavia got from Stella was the eye color.
Vaggie is probably the most wasted character of any of the major cast, on paper she has a good amount going for her, being the princess of Hell's girlfriend, has only been in Hell a couple years so could serve as an audience surrogate, and of course is secretly a former Exorcist who was one of the best ones according to Adam.

But in practice her relationship with Charlie is codependent as fuck (and no characters call her out on it, so I feel the writers might not even realize it given how unsubtle the show is), and her being a fallen Exorcist is literally just used to make Charlie angry at Vaggie for a single episode, the rest of the hotel nor Carmillia remotely give a shit that Vaggie has killed thousands of Sinners.

Said it before but the reveal of her being an exorcist should have been a mid season 2 twist, she's forgiven by Charlie rather quickly because Charlie is all about second chances, but characters like Angel, Husk, and Pentious treat her like the plague and it's not until the season finale do they begin to forgive her for the things she's done.
I always knew that the whole "Vaggie was an exorcist" was something Viv had never planned initially, and that if Viv took that popular fan theory to canon it would end up going rather poorly for Vaggie's character. Glad to see that I was proven right.
 
I always knew that the whole "Vaggie was an exorcist" was something Viv had never planned initially, and that if Viv took that popular fan theory to canon it would end up going rather poorly for Vaggie's character. Glad to see that I was proven right.
I'd argue Viv didn't have any plan for Vaggie right from the word go. She was originally going to be Angel Dust's girlfriend who was a prostitute from El Salvador, then Angel was made gay, then later during the pilot's production some crew members started shipping Vaggie and Charlie which Viv liked so made them a thing, and finally as you said Vaggie being an exorcist became a popular fan theory so Viv made that canon too.

Sure all the characters changed from Zoophobia to pilot to series, but Vaggie's entire dynamic or background was radically changed in every single iteration.
 
Me watching 20 minutes of Hazbin Hotel:
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Me watching 20 seconds of old Chilly Willy:
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(Sir Pentious sleeping with his egg minions genuinely made me smile, though.)
 
 

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I think my favorite of those redesigns is Alastor, it just feels; perfect? Original Alastor design is a mess of absolute edgelord who looks nothing like the deer motif he is supposed to mimic, he is just looks like he is trying too hard to be terrifying (which he isn't, hes a fraud who gets his power from a deal he has, hes all bark no bite). This Alastor doesn't look scary, he looks unsettling; thats the vibe he should give, especially if making a deal with him it supposed to be a huge-ass risk, he looks like the kind of guy who would backstab you the moment your usefulness ran out to him. Also him being an actual deer, thats what I imagined his design looking like as a sinner; it fits while maintaining the whole "radio" motif he has going on with his mic staff.

I'm also a huge fan of the Stella redesign, I don't remember what the original post said but the art alone makes it look like shes been given a more "tragic" vibe? Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Narcissistic, nepto, victimizing, lying, can't ever take accountability,
This description fits so many HH/HB characters, you have to be very specific. (:_(Anyway, I really love all your redo/rewrite, I really like how every rings make imps look different, as like some kind of environmental factors of some sorts, crazy how you can have plenty of ideas and potential when your brain isn't fried on gay porn and yaoi.
 
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I think my favorite of those redesigns is Alastor, it just feels; perfect? Original Alastor design is a mess of absolute edgelord who looks nothing like the deer motif he is supposed to mimic, he is just looks like he is trying too hard to be terrifying (which he isn't, hes a fraud who gets his power from a deal he has, hes all bark no bite). This Alastor doesn't look scary, he looks unsettling; thats the vibe he should give, especially if making a deal with him it supposed to be a huge-ass risk, he looks like the kind of guy who would backstab you the moment your usefulness ran out to him. Also him being an actual deer, thats what I imagined his design looking like as a sinner; it fits while maintaining the whole "radio" motif he has going on with his mic staff.

I'm also a huge fan of the Stella redesign, I don't remember what the original post said but the art alone makes it look like shes been given a more "tragic" vibe? Correct me if I'm wrong.
I was gonna comment something similar about the Alastor redesign, but I think what you say summarizes my feelings better than I ever could. Well done to the artist! :heart-full:
 
I really hope they give God the Sauron approach. A being never portrayed or present in the original trilogy yet always looming, scheming and driving the story through sheer menacing inevitability. One who cannot be bargained, bullyed or reasoned with.

Only submission is acceptable, and the offer is always on the table, that he might let you live if you comply.
 
Miss "soph", I have a song for you. And just for you!
I really hope they give God the Sauron approach. A being never portrayed or present in the original trilogy yet always looming, scheming and driving the story through sheer menacing inevitability. One who cannot be bargained, bullyed or reasoned with.

Only submission is acceptable, and the offer is always on the table, that he might let you live if you comply.
That's very interesting... but dude, like- never heard of grey morality? yeah. Real shit bro. What if the world didn't have that black and white morality?
:neckbeard:
 
Thanks, didn't know @Re(Runner)48 edit Satan, need to also show these redesigns to my homies.
 
I really hope they give God the Sauron approach. A being never portrayed or present in the original trilogy yet always looming, scheming and driving the story through sheer menacing inevitability. One who cannot be bargained, bullyed or reasoned with.

Only submission is acceptable, and the offer is always on the table, that he might let you live if you comply.
Pretty much what I mentioned here. No concrete identity, just an eldritch cosmic being whose presence is incomprehensible to mortals.
 
Pretty much what I mentioned here. No concrete identity, just an eldritch cosmic being whose presence is incomprehensible to mortals.
Yeah, you could do so much cool shit with that; like, maybe it's the reason why Lucifer acts so forgetful at times – he saw the wrathful True Face of God when Eve was tempted into eating the Apple, and the sight was so horrific Lucifer's mind basically tore itself apart trying to suppress the memory
 
That's very interesting... but dude, like- never heard of grey morality? yeah. Real shit bro. What if the world didn't have that black and white morality?
:neckbeard:

The show wanting to do that like...
Emily in episode 6: How can I bring joy when I now know we are bringing misery to thousands of innocent people?
The "innocent people":
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Yeah, you could do so much cool shit with that; like, maybe it's the reason why Lucifer acts so forgetful at times – he saw the wrathful True Face of God when Eve was tempted into eating the Apple, and the sight was so horrific Lucifer's mind basically tore itself apart trying to suppress the memory

POV: You are Lucifer
 
The show wanting to do that like...
Emily in episode 6: How can I bring joy when I now know we are bringing misery to thousands of innocent people?
The "innocent people":
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This what really bugs me, like okay let's spitball and say there's four-five people that have a chance of redemption: Snake boi, Angel Dust, Husk (by his old backstory, fuck I know what it's now), Vaggie (if we go by her old backstory) and maybe let's add Baxter just for good measure. So, five people in total have a chance for redemption, compared to fuck knows how many serial killers, murders, rapists, and etc. Heck, why in the seven circles off hell is there a cannibal town and why do all the people in it dress like they're from the 1912 era? Was this some law passed by Rosie? Why? Is it because she died in that era and was a cannibal? Why are there so many cannibals to begin with?
 
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