Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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you're not alone in that opinion, it's slowly but steadily growing in the normie-sphere as well
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With how great vivzie reacts to criticism and how far gone the show has gone I hope it catches enough attention to get clowned on by the general normie population because god knows how much salt that would bring
if politics wasn't dominating everything right now this show and hazbin hotel would def be the next Steven Universe of obnoxious fandoms
 
Watched the Queen Bee episode.

Cotton candy does not stick in your teeth unless it's gotten old and stale. Does Hell have old stale cotton candy instead of the fresh kind that melts in your mouth? Makes sense but how lame.

Luna not enjoying the party until she had an "anchor person" to make things more comfortable is relatable. Also the sudden vomit at the end. Sometimes it just sneaks up on ya.

Otherwise this show is officially trying too hard. Vivzie is in her 30s right? Is she having a midlife crisis or is she due for one? Everyone goes a little mad in their 30s.
 
A common justification I've been seeing for Beelzebub being a fox is that hellhounds are apparently from the Gluttony ring and she therefore rules over them. While nothing in the show ever hinted at this before, it does seem to be the case, as each other ring has specific kinds of demons populating them (succubi and incubi in the Lust ring, imps in Wrath, sinners in Pride, etc.). It's also been pointed out that Cerberus - whom many know is a three-headed dog in Greek mythology - guards Gluttony in Dante's Inferno.

I still don't really like it, but this does make a bit more sense.
 
A common justification I've been seeing for Beelzebub being a fox is that hellhounds are apparently from the Gluttony ring and she therefore rules over them. While nothing in the show ever hinted at this before, it does seem to be the case, as each other ring has specific kinds of demons populating them (succubi and incubi in the Lust ring, imps in Wrath, sinners in Pride, etc.). It's also been pointed out that Cerberus - whom many know is a three-headed dog in Greek mythology - guards Gluttony in Dante's Inferno.

I still don't really like it, but this does make a bit more sense.
this answer is a little weak since Ozzy is not an incubi to rule over them, but they would be dependent on him for his crystals to get to the human world so it makes sense for him to be their boss.

Beelzebub doesn't have a master/servant relationship with hellhounds, she's just a celebrity making a show so I don't know if she rules anything. even the Hellhound Adoption Foundation appears to be run by Belphegor.
 
Everything I've ever seen and heard about this show indicates that its just 30 minutes of yaoi fujo furry bait per episode, does it actually have enough plot to merit 200 pages of discussion or is it just drama gossip?
ngl there is some furry bait and fan service, but there is a decent plot development going on. imo I feel like the issue is that the show feels more and more awkward overall (animation wise and with liberal views shoved in the show).
 
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ngl there is some furry bait and fan service, but there is a decent plot development going on. imo I feel like the issue is that the show feels more and more awkward overall.
The animation was particularly bad this episode. Other people have already pointed it out. It's almost like the original episode was so fucked because of whatever copyright issues there were that they tried to cover it over, and we ended up with this, because by the time it happened, the team had already moved on to other things.

Only redeeming feature: Loona actually caring about her idiot dad.
 
Vivzie is in her 30s right? Is she having a midlife crisis or is she due for one?
She's only just 30 and she coukd be 30 or 50 or old enough to be claiming senior citizens discounts. She's stuck thinking and acting like a high schooler with notebooks full of anime inspired "ong so cute ocs you guys I'm so talented." I am so fucking done dome with Ms. Mango rice after this episode.
Every woman this day and age goes a little mad in her 30s.
ftfy,


Finally watched it. It fucking SUCKED.
I'm so sick of vivzie trying to pander to zoomers and act like one despite being long past her high school days.
call me childish,
Hi childish, you may enjoy the juvenile humor, but this episode left me feeling like an old man too old for this shit surrounded by these damned kids skateboarding on the damn side walk amd won't get off my lawn.
 
So why did even Dante make Hell look more fun than his own version of Heaven? And he was trying to make it look like the worst place imaginable. But almost nobody reads Paradiso, because it is the most boring-ass fucking thing I've ever read. Great. I'd rather be in his Hell than his Heaven.
His hell is fun for the observer, not the condemned. Of course conflict and strife is more intresting to witness than literal perfection.
 
You know what could have worked for Beelzebub? Making her look more like cotton candy. I mean, it's the name of the song she even sings.

It even goes with the whole circus motif that Viv wants, since cotton candy is a popular thing at circuses. Besides the fact that Beelzebub never gave me "animal trainer" vibes, that's not something I would think of for the sin of gluttony. She's handing out sweets to the hellhounds at the party anyway. Play into that with here design. Make her look sickly sweet and candy-like; not some punk-looking color swap of Loona.
 
Make her look sickly sweet and candy-like; not some punk-looking color swap of JayJay.
FTFY.
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You should probably calm down.

Because you're just a cat.
Sorry boss, was going for levity, it came off as being an asshole.
She's handing out sweets to the hellhounds at the party anyway.
Pinhead would not approve this version of hell. No order, no efficiency, and all this bright neon color? Vivzies hell needs a good overhaul via the order of the gash and mr Morningstar needs to have a nice long talk with leviathan.
 
It says something when the penultimate episode of Season 1 felt more like a season finale than the actual season finale. So the only other development of Loona we get is she can't handle one alcoholic drink and some stereotypical preppy hellhound knows her (yay, another minor who'll probably won't appear for some time).

And the high school drama will continue if the next episode is the one with Moxxie trooning out.
 
this answer is a little weak since Ozzy is not an incubi to rule over them, but they would be dependent on him for his crystals to get to the human world so it makes sense for him to be their boss.

Beelzebub doesn't have a master/servant relationship with hellhounds, she's just a celebrity making a show so I don't know if she rules anything. even the Hellhound Adoption Foundation appears to be run by Belphegor.
It is, but it's also a more logical answer than Viv bringing back her old wolf character as the embodiment of gluttony just because.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume all the lords have master/servant relationships with the demons in their rings, Beelzebub is obviously very benevolent and wants her people to indulge themselves. She may not be the hellhounds' ruler in a stereotypical sense, but it's still her position and she's just chill about it.
Couldn't they just make her a bee instead?
Because, according to Viv's passive aggressive ass, that's "just as inaccurate." It's what most of the redesigns are doing though. Pretty much all of them are better than what we got. This one in particular has gained a lot of attention.
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