Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Man, what's next? Order = Heaven and Chaos = Hell?
Fuck off, Viv.
That's pretty much what Shin Megami Tensei does, so I actually WOULD put it past Viv to include something of the sort because she's a media illiterate hog who only knows how to make characters swear, cry about daddy issues and make sex jokes
 
If Viz was clever she could have drawn a sharp and unforgetable contrast, everyone in the show (i.e. demons) is crude, crass, swears nonstop and moves and talks like a rubber monkey on crack.

Having angels be quiet, reserved, talk slowly and clearly, and have slower and more subdued animation while never swearing, just generally being classy, would have been a big "wow" moment and also incredible memorable.
They actually did something like this with fucking Helluva Boss of all things, where they made Dearie all condescending and fake-polite while banishing the cherubs from heaven. If Adam's allowed to basically just be Blitzo, then why didn't Dearie either let them back in or be like "Nah, fuck you guys, get the fuck out of heaven and eat dick, lol"
It would have had way more effect if Heaven was all overly classy then just casually went "Thank you for your time, princess Morningstar, our angels will see you in six months" and Charlie realizes they mean the exorcists.
 
New song leaks:

"Hell's Greatest Dad"
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Alright Viv, we get it, you hate Charlastor. Feels like she did this out of spite, it's not like we've ever seen Alastor act fatherly towards Charlie. It’s cute that Viv thinks this is going to deter the shippers, too; if anything, it’s going to spawn “Your daughter calls me daddy too” shitposts and incest jokes.

"More Than Anything"
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"You Didn't Know"
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Wow, Vaggie is an angel, who could've possibly seen that coming?

"Welcome to Heaven"
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Okay listening to the songs, most of them are decent. Though Lucifer really doesn't like a dad, he sounds like a brother or friend than an actual father figure, his duet with Charlie is fine until you remember Lucifer is supposed to be her father yet sounds younger. The Alastor duet is peak evidence that Alastor is a gary stu OC.
 
Lost in the song leak was a promo post today that showcased Cherri Bomb, but the important part is that it ends with Pentious and her 'going out'.
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So that random Anon on /co/ who skipped out before detailed questions could be asked unfortunately almost certainly isn't bullshit, and they're going to kill off one of the few actually entertaining characters in the show at the end of the first season.
 
I realized something today. Since Vaggie is an angel, there is a non-negligible chance there could be violence between her and Charlie. Please, please, please let one 55% the other, that would be great.
Like she won't get, at best, 5 minutes angsting over being an angel and being bad at protecting charlie (despite pretty much carrying the entire redemption and hotel plan) before it's all forgiven with probably a shitty song with how fucked this show's pacing is.
 
I saw this comment in a youtube video and I thought it was funny because I said the same thing earlier in the thread:
That actually worked and I wish we'd seen more of that kind of thing.
They should’ve had Adam sound like Patrick Tomlinson.

“No demon child, it is your delusion that you can ever enter Heaven!”

It’d get across that he is an asshole while not having there be out of place unnecessary swearing.
 
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Like she won't get, at best, 5 minutes angsting over being an angel and being bad at protecting charlie (despite pretty much carrying the entire redemption and hotel plan) before it's all forgiven with probably a shitty song with how fucked this show's pacing is.
I thought Helluva Boss had bad pacing but this show just feels like Viv wants it to be over before it even starts. 4 episodes deep and the premise has already been deconstructed, Angel's personal problems are dealt with and the "who killed the exterminator" plotline is already wrapped up.
 
Lost in the song leak was a promo post today that showcased Cherri Bomb, but the important part is that it ends with Pentious and her 'going out'.
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So that random Anon on /co/ who skipped out before detailed questions could be asked unfortunately almost certainly isn't bullshit, and they're going to kill off one of the few actually entertaining characters in the show at the end of the first season.
Yeah I saw, Pentious is screwed.

Also I'm glad everyone is aware of how dumb Viv is for this.

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New song leaks:

"Hell's Greatest Dad"
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Alright Viv, we get it, you hate Charlastor. Feels like she did this out of spite, it's not like we've ever seen Alastor act fatherly towards Charlie. It’s cute that Viv thinks this is going to deter the shippers, too; if anything, it’s going to spawn “Your daughter calls me daddy too” shitposts and incest jokes.

"More Than Anything"
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"You Didn't Know"
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Wow, Vaggie is an angel, who could've possibly seen that coming?

"Welcome to Heaven"
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That was bad. I hate the instrumentation, lyrics, and singing. In the words of nu Angel Dust, who wrote this? Shoulda asked that dude who made Red Flags or that homo Neil Ciciriega to do something neat. Lame as shit.
I thought Helluva Boss had bad pacing but this show just feels like Viv wants it to be over before it even starts. 4 episodes deep and the premise has already been deconstructed, Angel's personal problems are dealt with and the "who killed the exterminator" plotline is already wrapped up.
They're scared it will get axed before even completing the season probably.
 
So I finally watched the first episode. Adam is a chad. With that being said, though, Lilith never existed. Seriously. Jews invented her in the Talmud in, like, the 5th century. She’s nowhere in the Bible. If Viv is gonna include Talmudic shit, she may as well start with Adam fucking all the animals in Eden.

Also (as expected), Brandon Rogers didn’t even attempt to sound feminine. Isn’t that so funny, guys? A sexy woman who sleeps with a lot of guys (as confirmed by Viv) with an unattractive male voice? That’s totally original! I never get tired of that trope! I sure can’t wait for Viv to include a villain named “Mr. Big” and he turns out to be a midget! These are all stupid fucking cliches jokes we can always laugh at! Who cares about Faye Mata’s fitting performance as her anyway? (I still don’t even know why I’m upset over Katie Killjoy’s voice actress being replaced with a dude. Like, I get she’s just a fucking cartoon character, but it annoys me to no end. Maybe someone can explain this.)

Anyways, sorry for the autistic comment. I’ll get to the second episode in, like, two hours. That first episode alone somehow managed to burn my ass out.
 
So I finally watched the first episode. Adam is a chad. With that being said, though, Lilith never existed. Seriously. Jews invented her in the Talmud in, like, the 5th century. She’s nowhere in the Bible. If Viv is gonna include Talmudic shit, she may as well start with Adam fucking all the animals in Eden.
If she’s gonna add Judeo-Christian apocrypha she might as well go full schizo Gnostic and add Archons and the Demiurge.
 
So I guess Alastor can just beef with the king of hell and live?

Whatever man, I'm not even gonna ask why Alastor thinks it's a good idea to curse at Lucifer, because this show seems so rushed and passionless. There's no build up to anything, things just happen, and then they stop happening, like it's just a collection of connected clip shows.
 
Hewwo. Just watched the leaks for episodes 5 & 6.

Someone mentioned getting jump-scared by the musical numbers a few pages back, and I really felt it in these two episodes. Absolutely nothing is given room to breathe. Dramatic points happen in a few lines and we as an audience can't even mull on it before another "shocking" story point pops up.

HH is literally becoming my most hated form of storytelling where "stuff just happens."

Also, I don't know if it's just me, but I had a hard time making it through the club scenes in episode 6 because of the constantly flashing colors.

My Current HH rating: 4.5/10

ETA: This show is a fucking disaster. I can't imagine what all the fans who were hyping this up over the last 4 (?) years think if this is the culmination of all the lore they collected.
 
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