Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[doodoocaca]

I feel like the Vees can work probably best if the Hotel does work. Since if the hotel can send sinners to Heaven, it would fuck up how Overlords gain power from conning sinners. So that's probably the generous way to make that plot work.

I still don't get how there's so little friction between Charlie and the Vs. Valentino not having his head caved in and his nutsack speed bagged by Charlie or Vaggie is fucking baffling just on a personal level, unless Angel didn't explain anything and both Charlie and Vaggie were too dense to 'get it'.

Then there's, yeah, the fact that these overlords who are sorta kinda in hell's nobility (I'm still not sure) making things actively worse and victimizing people, and the fucking princess and heir is just herpderping about it. Pentious at least gets to herpderp it up given he's a fucking snake, but I doubt that Vivz even gets the reference or the joke.

I'm still amused that a throwaway buttmonkey ended up being the best characterized in the fucking show so far.

 

[Colon capital V]

I gotta say, whoever hyped up the HuskerDust ship from way before the show came out completely oversold it from how it was actually portrayed in the show. But then again, when you're this brain rotted from tumblr fandom ship shit, anything seems like an overly sexual remark to these people.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

So if these characters can permanently die from angelic weapons, what happens to them? Do they just cease to exist like what atheists believe? Do they get sent to some sort of super Hell? I’m so fucking confused right now.

They get trapped in inanimate objects as conscious eyeballs.

Easy to save money when you barley pay your workers.

 

[Shidoen]

They get trapped in inanimate objects as conscious eyeballs.

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Just consider that grammatical error the pronunciation that my southern accent would compose had I spoke instead of typed.

 

[Gondolindrim]

So if these characters can permanently die from angelic weapons, what happens to them? Do they just cease to exist like what atheists believe? Do they get sent to some sort of super Hell? I’m so fucking confused right now.

A Super Hell that is actually eternal torment instead of "New York but red" would be hilarious. It'd make way more sense why Exterminations are so scary.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Just consider that grammatical error the pronunciation that my southern accent would compose had I spoke instead of typed.

I took it seriously. I can see Viv paying animators in barley rations.

 

[Shidoen]

I took it seriously. I can see Viv paying animators in barley rations.

If I had to be paid in barley by a fat Fujo with a highly narcissistic, star-struck Hollywood attitude I’d turn my barley rations into an alcohol, sell it, and then buy wood alcohol to poison Viv with. Two shots can kill a man.

 

[Varretnon847]

considering how Vivzie has fucked up her other content and allowed them to become a drag?

I'm not really all too aware on her other works other then Helluva Boss, but if this is about that Zoophobia comic then I would love to hear about the can of worms that was. Because I've only seen a couple images of the comic, but have learned from this thread that Vivzie essentially repeated a bunch of the mistakes she made with that in Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel.

 

[Fireman Sam]

I gotta say, whoever hyped up the HuskerDust ship from way before the show came out completely oversold it from how it was actually portrayed in the show. But then again, when you're this brain rotted from tumblr fandom ship shit, anything seems like an overly sexual remark to these people.

Fully agreed. That's just how this rabid tumblr/twitter "ship fucking everything" crowd works.
They see two guys getting on, two characters going from hating each other to friends who see eye to eye, and these gay fetishists online go "OMG THEY TOTALLY WANT TO FUCK EACH OTHER!!"

Doesn't help that throughout Helluva Boss the only reason any character treats another with respect is because they're in a sexual relationship with them, implied or explicit, it doesn't matter. They wrote ALL of them like that. It's just one big weird gay melodrama at this point.

With Hazbin, I genuinely think there were Amazon guys tardwrangling the writers because it's more mainstream and they need to appeal to a wider audience other than just the weird tumblr crowd. Of course it has more than its fair share of cringe inducing overtly sexual jokes that fall flat, but they at least make Husk and Spider Fag's dynamic a more platonic friendship which is actually fresh in a show like this.
They have a solid dynamic (especially considering a lot of the show has characters that don't mesh well or otherwise haven't been established as characters at all). And I think if they were just to make Husk and Dust gay it would ruin it and just turn them into yet another sex joke (like how they interacted at the start of the season).

Trust the Internet to turn something into a gay thing though. This has been a thing since everyone had easy access to the Internet. It's when shows are aware of this and force it in for fanservice does it become weirdly messy. Otherwise it's just retards screeching into the void about their headcanon gay couple. When they have influence, that's a problem.
I don't HATE Hazbin, but I will gladly say it's not a a show for me. It has been fun going through and analyzing it but I'm not surprised at all that the fanbase is how it is though.

 

[The Fair Lady]

More from Gabriel Brown:



Something else to note is that he changed his original Q&A comment from saying Ed felt being part of the song might jeopardize his role as Striker to being a “conflict of interest.”

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

More from Gabriel Brown with his stance on Viv:
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>she's under a lot of pressure and knows that any decision she makes will be under intense scrutiny
SHE'S A CELEBRITY - A PUBLIC FIGURE, SHERLOCK. IT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY. MAYBE SHE SHOULD MAKE BETTER DECISIONS, THEN.

 

[Seventh Star]

You don't have to kick the characters out of the hotel after their episode with them in the proposed format. Make redemption happen right before the extermination so it leaves us in the dark as to which characters make it or not. Some might even relapse before they can be redeemed. Angel Dust could be the perpetual irredeemable loser or even Alastor. A few characters will die before they ever make it.

Thats what I expected the show would be.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

As @Fireman Sam said I think that A24 and Amazon will prevent this from devolving into the HuskerDust show, and I honestly have to say the writing isn't terrible, on its own its middle of the road and is really only made bad by Viv clearly jamming too much stuff into 8 episodes, don't know if she wasn't guaranteed a second season when writing this out but at the end of the day she's the lead writer, showrunner, etc. so she gets the blame for the huge pacing issues, that's just how this industry works, fair or not, and plenty of serialized shows that teetered on the edge of cancellation for multiple seasons still managed to put out decently paced work.

I don't think Hazbin is good, but unless the two final episodes are a complete disaster it's far from the trainwreck I was expecting it to be.

 

[Roger Dennis]

Hell in this show feels more like purgatory, not gonna lie.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

All of of his interactions and motives with Charlie have never been shown on screen or even implied off screen. We know why he is beefing with Lucifer due to the leaks, but nothing in the show set this up.

Ah I can explain that. This show has no coherent world building. A character is suddenly buddy buddy with another? It was always that way. Charlie and Dusk are lesbians? It was always like that! If it feels like you're missing episodes or character moments, it is! That's because most of the story happens outside the show, in Viv's head-cannon, and you're only supposed to care who is shipped with who!

This makes it even more of a missed opportunity that God/Jesus seem to be nonexistent, since having this event happen would give a reason for Charlie to have her plan for redemption of Sinners, since if the rules of the afterlife changed before, what’s to say they can’t change again? Maybe have Charlie witness this event as a young girl and have that be her motivation.

My theory was that the show was gonna use Jesus and God, but Amazon was like "no, you cannot portray Jesus as a dudebro and God as a black angel!"

 

[Gondolindrim]

The music videos are starting to grow on me honestly, I've been listening to a few. Thing is they're much better isolated, because it's annoying to have them come out of nowhere.

 

[AnOminous]

My theory was that the show was gonna use Jesus and God, but Amazon was like "no, you cannot portray Jesus as a dudebro and God as a black angel!"

Or she has Catholic Hispanic relatives and doesn't want to insult Christianity directly because it would upset family.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Or she has Catholic Hispanic relatives and doesn't want to insult Christianity directly because it would upset family.

Fucking fag... and i mean Vivzie.

 

[Yeshuash]

Or she has Catholic Hispanic relatives and doesn't want to insult Christianity directly because it would upset family.

Most of her creative work is goin "Christianity stupid! Satan cool!". Even back in Zoophobia one of the characters is the son of the devil. My guess she simple had no idea how to use them in the story, considering we have shows like Preacher that portray Jesus as a whiny fuckboy.

 

[nostalgiasorrow]

man this show is gay as fuck.