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Yep. It's over.
Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread
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I don't really see anything stopping her from returning beyond Adam maybe acting as doorman.
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All things considered, that was moreso a meme that involved stuff from Hazbin, but didn't stem from the show itself. There's not much else beyond that for a show that some hyped up as being the big "decade-defining" cartoon. Even Digital Circus has accomplished more than Hazbin, and that hasn't even been a thing for a full year, yet.
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Only from Heaven can you open portals to Heaven, Charlie had to talk to Lucifer to have a passage, in this logic Lucifer would also not be fallen since he can get a portal and the only thing stopping him is someone saying no.
Also, there's not just an archangel preventing her from entering, there's Saint Peter to open the doors of Heaven since portals only take you to the entrance and you have to be on the list and Charlie only entered when Sera allowed it, Vaggie can't just enter when he wants
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They can... they are on the list they have already been admitted. It is weirder to the shows cannon that Lucifer can arrange a meeting but vaggie can't.
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So here's a fun question that I'm certain won't get answered in the show, if a person is a tranny and they die and end up in heaven or hell, do they actually end up as the gender they want to be or do they still end up as the sex they were born with? If so, then do they have sexual reassignment surgeries in Hell? Because that'd be quite silly considering they're in a world were magic and shit is possible.
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Well, Helluva Boss has trannys in it with the imps and stuff. If she gave the sinners the bodies they wanted, trannies would be upset and yell "transphobia" because they can't relate to them anymore. Suddenly the MtF actually has a real girl body now!! but the IRL trannies who watch would say their identity is now "Invalidated" by the show because they don't:
"need to pass physically" or
"trans people don't owe you their masculinity/femininity" or
"Kinda transphobic of Vivzie to think all transwomen don't like having their penises :/ " or
"Is Vivzie saying that we need to become actual physical women to be women? That's basically saying I'm not a real woman now because I don't have a perfect girlpuppy body."
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Or some other weird gripe along that nature. If transpeople wanted to be represented in media, they would just relate to the already existing male/female characters anyway. (like, if you're actually a woman, just relate to the female characters? Why do they need a dick for you to relate to them if you're just like real women?)
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If the character isn't a tranny, then they can't relate therefore, = bad. They need their girldick and cuntboy representation, else they can't coom. Besides, nothing Vivzie says will ever be enough for them anyway. Magic sex change that makes you perfect? transphobia. Letting the characters be as they were in life and let them make their own decision? transphobia. Have both options be available? The former disagrees with the latter or vice versa then still...transphobia.
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These people are impossible to please. Everything she would suggest would be wrong in their eyes.
"need to pass physically" or
"trans people don't owe you their masculinity/femininity" or
"Kinda transphobic of Vivzie to think all transwomen don't like having their penises :/ " or
"Is Vivzie saying that we need to become actual physical women to be women? That's basically saying I'm not a real woman now because I don't have a perfect girlpuppy body."
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Or some other weird gripe along that nature. If transpeople wanted to be represented in media, they would just relate to the already existing male/female characters anyway. (like, if you're actually a woman, just relate to the female characters? Why do they need a dick for you to relate to them if you're just like real women?)
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If the character isn't a tranny, then they can't relate therefore, = bad. They need their girldick and cuntboy representation, else they can't coom. Besides, nothing Vivzie says will ever be enough for them anyway. Magic sex change that makes you perfect? transphobia. Letting the characters be as they were in life and let them make their own decision? transphobia. Have both options be available? The former disagrees with the latter or vice versa then still...transphobia.
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These people are impossible to please. Everything she would suggest would be wrong in their eyes.
In other news, apparently Vivzie did a panel in SCAD Atlanta the other night. Someone I know saw it and apparently it was really crowded and people were rushing to meet them by the end of it.
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I assume they end up as the gender their "soul" is which is what they identify as. However, there would be reassignment centers in hell since the suicide is usually because they realize they made a mistake and got peer pressured into body mutilation
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I'd imagine in Hell you'd get a hypermasculine/hyperfeminine body as a form of torment. At least that's what I'd do if I were Satan.
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one is the King of Hell and the other is not.
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this.
I can't believe about agreeing this.
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rate me retarded and autistic if you guys have seen this, i looked through the thread in the last day or so and didn't see it. apparently someone is claiming they killed themselves over a hazbin hotel ship? There's a twitter thread | archive and a big ol' fuckin' google doc | archive
whole thing could easily be an attention grab, but the google doc is pretty long, kinda funny. i've read through a bit of it so far, some good bits.
whole thing could easily be an attention grab, but the google doc is pretty long, kinda funny. i've read through a bit of it so far, some good bits.
"guys come on, i paypigged hard for this series, why don't you all love me and my opinions?"
discussing how much they dropped for early access.
tyler the creator was really onto something with that tweet.
"Fans bullied the Sonic movie to redo the character model"
discussing how much they dropped for early access.
tyler the creator was really onto something with that tweet.
"Fans bullied the Sonic movie to redo the character model"
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ohhhhhh this is grade-A batshittery right here.
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So in the court hearing, Sera admits to Charlie that they (I'm assuming this is the council present) don't know the criteria for a soul arriving in Heaven. All they know is that they show up, they're in St. Peter's little book, they get admitted. However, the intro establishes that Lucifer was cast down after tempting Lillith with his ideals instead of aligning her to the rest of Heaven, clearly defining Heaven as "the realm where some upper ideaology is allowed to exist" and Hell is where everything not adhering to that ideaology goes...
... so then how the fuck does Hell know what the criteria is for ending up down there? Wouldn't that mean, to some extent, Heaven's greater ideaology is known? Adam was 100% right, how can the powers-that-be make a mistake if it's cut and dry? Did they not take the redemption process into account? Do the so-called omniscient beings in the creation hierarchy just magically not know about the redemption process, nor ever considered that a soul could be swapped from one plane to another, despite the fact that they literally cast Lucifer out of Heaven and the process is still practiced to this day (as cited by Sera when she tells Emily that she's worried her inquisitive nature will cause her to fall)?
I'm clearly reading too deeply into this, but like, what the fuck?
... so then how the fuck does Hell know what the criteria is for ending up down there? Wouldn't that mean, to some extent, Heaven's greater ideaology is known? Adam was 100% right, how can the powers-that-be make a mistake if it's cut and dry? Did they not take the redemption process into account? Do the so-called omniscient beings in the creation hierarchy just magically not know about the redemption process, nor ever considered that a soul could be swapped from one plane to another, despite the fact that they literally cast Lucifer out of Heaven and the process is still practiced to this day (as cited by Sera when she tells Emily that she's worried her inquisitive nature will cause her to fall)?
I'm clearly reading too deeply into this, but like, what the fuck?
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Well Hazbin is pretty popular.
Like apparently it's also really popular in Japan.
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in the song Charlie and Emily say "angels can do whatever and remain in the sky"
but this is not true, Lucifer falls for introducing evil into the world, Vaggie falls for disobeying his superior, the 3 cherubs fall for killing people. They have rules and those who disobey are punished, but the show is paced so quickly that there is no time for a response or a counterpoint.
They also take Adam's joke list as definitive proof that Angel should be in Heaven, because they don't have a book of rules but they have a book of who is allowed in Heaven, the Bible also doesn't exist in this world, but priests and nuns do exist ? Saint Peter was an apostle of Christ, but Jesus doesn't even exist? Is everyone on the list people who asked to be in Heaven or are they appointed?
Seriously, the show only did this one point because it's not interested in exploring the past of the Hotel's residents, we don't know anything about what sent Sir Pentious to Hell to find out if he redeemed himself,
Emily says that the souls in hell are innocent and killing them is suffering, when it is clearly the opposite
also raises the point of people teleporting to Heaven without having to go through the gate or be on the list and appear in a random place, in addition to going to Heaven after dying in Hell which is said to be like ceasing to exist, but Adam dying is not Take him to Heaven or Hell, he just dies despite doing nothing wrong in the eyes of Heaven.
which also raises the possibility that this process is automatic, some universal law that something or someone that perfectly determines who deserves Heaven or Hell, but the authorities in Heaven can expel whoever they want if they disobey the laws they don't know they have.
but this is not true, Lucifer falls for introducing evil into the world, Vaggie falls for disobeying his superior, the 3 cherubs fall for killing people. They have rules and those who disobey are punished, but the show is paced so quickly that there is no time for a response or a counterpoint.
They also take Adam's joke list as definitive proof that Angel should be in Heaven, because they don't have a book of rules but they have a book of who is allowed in Heaven, the Bible also doesn't exist in this world, but priests and nuns do exist ? Saint Peter was an apostle of Christ, but Jesus doesn't even exist? Is everyone on the list people who asked to be in Heaven or are they appointed?
Seriously, the show only did this one point because it's not interested in exploring the past of the Hotel's residents, we don't know anything about what sent Sir Pentious to Hell to find out if he redeemed himself,
Emily says that the souls in hell are innocent and killing them is suffering, when it is clearly the opposite
also raises the point of people teleporting to Heaven without having to go through the gate or be on the list and appear in a random place, in addition to going to Heaven after dying in Hell which is said to be like ceasing to exist, but Adam dying is not Take him to Heaven or Hell, he just dies despite doing nothing wrong in the eyes of Heaven.
which also raises the possibility that this process is automatic, some universal law that something or someone that perfectly determines who deserves Heaven or Hell, but the authorities in Heaven can expel whoever they want if they disobey the laws they don't know they have.
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If true. How soon until the predicted Randy Stair/Brony killer/Martha speaks style spree shooter happens with Hazbin hotel? I bet will be a Loona or an angle dust fan.