Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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verything else looks pretty mid and I'm getting red flags with the Dhorks and Cherubs team up
I am 95% sure they stole that from an actual fanfiction because the idea of DHORKS and Cherub teaming up has been floating around for a while. But the trouble is that both those groups have shown themselves to be utterly incompetent, and even if they do pull off a stunt the last episode showed us that IMP isn't ever actually in any danger because Stolas will just show up and save the day.
 
Can't expect much from fangirls. They just scream at everything.

Anyway, I know the rest of the season is probably going to have long 30 minute episodes full of drama, so I'm definitely not looking forward to the rest of the season. I'll still watch it anyway though to give my thoughts. And I do like that Octavia is finally going to tell off Stolas, though I know that probably will be solved quickly next season and she'll be treated in the wrong for it.

Slightly related but a bit off-topic, Brandon got into some drama for calling Octavia a "cock-blocking slut", so that's fun.
https://x.com/StolsLovesBlitz/status/1782423410724733267
 
Slightly related but a bit off-topic, Brandon got into some drama for calling Octavia a "cock-blocking slut", so that's fun.
https://x.com/StolsLovesBlitz/status/1782423410724733267
Ah, yeah. Saw that unfold on Tumblr, too. Yeah, it's definitely off-putting he'd call her that out of the blue, but if you know Brandon, his entire shtick is just being provocative and offensive (but can't be too offending nowadays), and people ran with it for years, so there's this mixed bag of people saying it's a joke and to not take it seriously and others going "no way he's really calling her that because how dare she get upset that her father's neglecting her for an imp he's only known once in his life and didn't meet with him again for another 25 years".

For me, personally, I just think he's joking around and not being that serious, but on the other hand, this is a character who, again, has been neglected by her father because he can't stop slobbering over imp penis every day, and has no other redeeming qualities other than "character who gets in the way of stoliz", so I feel it's a real slap in the face of her character and what she's been forced to go through.

Either way, it's not something career-ending or whatever. It'll get swept under the rug and people will stop caring after a few weeks or until some other drama happens and people use that incident to fuel the flame.

Also saw this image related to her and I thought it was funny. Please, Viv, let Octavia rip Blitzo or Stolas a new one. Especially, Stolas.

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Slightly related but a bit off-topic, Brandon got into some drama for calling Octavia a "cock-blocking slut", so that's fun.
https://x.com/StolsLovesBlitz/status/1782423410724733267
Gonna repeat what was said above and I think it is a joke. Hell even in the clip you can tell Brandon is joking, but given its twitter, people are definitely taking him seriously especially given the subject is something involving Vivziepop

Ah, yeah. Saw that unfold on Tumblr, too. Yeah, it's definitely off-putting he'd call her that out of the blue, but if you know Brandon, his entire shtick is just being provocative and offensive (but can't be too offending nowadays), and people ran with it for years, so there's this mixed bag of people saying it's a joke and to not take it seriously and others going "no way he's really calling her that because how dare she get upset that her father's neglecting her for an imp he's only known once in his life and didn't meet with him again for another 25 years".

For me, personally, I just think he's joking around and not being that serious, but on the other hand, this is a character who, again, has been neglected by her father because he can't stop slobbering over imp penis every day, and has no other redeeming qualities other than "character who gets in the way of stoliz", so I feel it's a real slap in the face of her character and what she's been forced to go through.

Either way, it's not something career-ending or whatever. It'll get swept under the rug and people will stop caring after a few weeks or until some other drama happens and people use that incident to fuel the flame.

Also saw this image related to her and I thought it was funny. Please, Viv, let Octavia rip Blitzo or Stolas a new one. Especially, Stolas.

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She's going to end up accepting it in some sappy moment where Stella is even more cartoonishly evil, then Octavia takes Blitzo as her stepdad which the fujos will cream themselves over.
 
Lavendertowne (youtuber with 2 mil subs) redesigned some hazbin characters (again, apparently she already did once but they sucked and she got a lot of hate for it lol)

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I think the girls look pretty cluttered and frumpy.
However, I like that Alastor is recognisable as both an american from around his time period , and a deer.

Most of all though, it made me realise how much I hate husks current design.
According to lore (that may or may not be canon anymore, who knows) Husk died as an old man in the 70s.
So then why oh why is his demon form a twinky magician looking bat cat with a bowtie and top hat?? Apparently vivzie has stated he likes magic tricks, but is that something actually decently present in the show? At least make him a fat cat, vivzie cant draw anything but twigs and curvy women.
This design isn't ideal either, but I can actually believe its the body and clothing style of an old alcoholic gambler from the 70s at least.
 
Hazbin Hotel is just so empty feeling. At least Helluva Boss has background characters so the world actually feel like a world that is lived in. If hell is so overpopulated, then where are all the people? We see them in the first opening song number, but then never again, unless they're needed for a plot point. You think there would be demons sleeping out on the streets because they're homeless, or many attacks on the hotel itself outside of plot points.
Obviously Hell should be overpopulated, unless it's expanding (see C. S. Lewis), and there should be schizo Ordian axiology involved, but since the show's more of a reflection of Vivziepop's experiences of the real world, isn't it kind of outdated? The concept for the show is probably pretty old at this point, and a teenager in the early 2000s had more of an excuse, but if your show is not featuring sigmoid curves and projected demographic graphs I'm not sure what you think you're doing if you want to be seen as forward looking. It's been over 10 years since the robot plan fell through, but I wouldn't be surprised if Vivziepop never knew about it in the first place.
 
Lavendertowne (youtuber with 2 mil subs) redesigned some hazbin characters (again, apparently she already did once but they sucked and she got a lot of hate for it lol)

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I think the girls look pretty cluttered and frumpy.
However, I like that Alastor is recognisable as both an american from around his time period , and a deer.

Most of all though, it made me realise how much I hate husks current design.
According to lore (that may or may not be canon anymore, who knows) Husk died as an old man in the 70s.
So then why oh why is his demon form a twinky magician looking bat cat with a bowtie and top hat?? Apparently vivzie has stated he likes magic tricks, but is that something actually decently present in the show? At least make him a fat cat, vivzie cant draw anything but twigs and curvy women.
This design isn't ideal either, but I can actually believe its the body and clothing style of an old alcoholic gambler from the 70s at least.

I've heard multiple stories from artists who did hazbin hotel redesigns getting bullied, it seems like a popular trend.

And btw, Husk wasnt created by vivzie, it was literally an OC gifted by her sister. This is why he doesnt fit at all in the universe.

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Vivzie would change husk to me more magic trick themed, presumably cause of the tophat, and eventually redesign him super hard into the overdesigned red and black winged cat we have now.
 
Lavendertowne (youtuber with 2 mil subs) redesigned some hazbin characters (again, apparently she already did once but they sucked and she got a lot of hate for it lol)

View attachment 5943830

I think the girls look pretty cluttered and frumpy.
However, I like that Alastor is recognisable as both an american from around his time period , and a deer.

Most of all though, it made me realise how much I hate husks current design.
According to lore (that may or may not be canon anymore, who knows) Husk died as an old man in the 70s.
So then why oh why is his demon form a twinky magician looking bat cat with a bowtie and top hat?? Apparently vivzie has stated he likes magic tricks, but is that something actually decently present in the show? At least make him a fat cat, vivzie cant draw anything but twigs and curvy women.
This design isn't ideal either, but I can actually believe its the body and clothing style of an old alcoholic gambler from the 70s at least.
I asked about this a while ago. Thanks for sharing the new designs. Personally I think LavenderTowne's designs suck just a little bit less than the sanitised Amazon abomination.

But I got to be honest, I am fatigued from reading the posts on this thread because it's just the same shit over and over. It's kind of a blackpill that unless she gets cancelled or stops making her shows, or hell gets better at her writing, we will always get stuck in this cycle of Vivzie doing stupid shit and ruining the appeal of her shows further and us Farmers criticising her using the same points that came up 50 pages ago.

This may also be my last post here because I just can't find anything interesting or relevant to add to this thread. I wish my brain had more juice to squeeze but it is what it is. Here's to a faint hope that Vivzie will be a better writer...

P.S: On the other hand, since I am an aspiring creator myself I am gonna make my own media and hopefully start a media company that can rival or surpass Spindle Horse and other productions. But that's a distant dream for now...
 
Erica Lindbeck not coming back to voice Loona is such an elephant in the room and I'm really curious how much longer they can keep up the lie that she and Viv are still on good terms.
I'm sorry but when did she and Viv fall out? Her boyfriend passed away and personal reasons kept her from voicing Loona, and she said she is still voicing the character, not sure where you're getting this fake drama from
 
I'm sorry but when did she and Viv fall out? Her boyfriend passed away and personal reasons kept her from voicing Loona, and she said she is still voicing the character, not sure where you're getting this fake drama from
Yes, Billy died in 2022 and she took a break from acting. Unless they recorded all of Season 2 in August of that year, that timeline doesn't work. Loona's been voiceless for a long time now but Erica's been doing other roles since then. So there's something else going keeping her from voicing Loona.
 
So there's something else going keeping her from voicing Loona.
People from the furry fandom like @Roxanne Wolf who have an obsession over having non-consensual sex with the character they're voicing. I believe the voice actress that initially voiced Shima Luan for the YouTube channel Planet Dolan left the Internet for the same reason, since the character was a pink anthropomorphic cat.
 
Oh hey, I almost forgot about HB since HH was so underwhelming.
I'm like 90% sure that Loona's VA just doesn't fuck with the show or Viv anymore and just wanted to be nice about it because I'm not buying this tragic story of her spending two years mourning her boyfriend. I wonder how long they're gonna keep Loona as a merch-selling background character, it's not like they can do it forever, right?
Slightly related but a bit off-topic, Brandon got into some drama for calling Octavia a "cock-blocking slut", so that's fun.
yep. Tracks that his problem with the one character in the show that feels like a normal person stuck in this bullshit instead of an edgy horndog 24/7 is that she gets in the way of his favorite yaoi ship.
 
Hey man I'll be happy to be wrong, but it smells fishy
I mean not really, remember Viv consistently sidelines every female "main" character in Helluva Boss, so its not surprising that Loona would be sidelined to the point she barely has lines, she's just an accessory like Millie to highlight the male character they are attached too.
 
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