Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[The tired cat]

As well as Gluttony being the only place to get fresh Beelzejuice, and in my version it's addictive so it incentives then to come back for more.

Ya know, can see this working to jusify why theres like crimelords in Greed Ring, ya have guys smuggling out this stuff from Gluttony knowing how addictive it is

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Thank you all so much for liking my redos it's sort of motivating me to try to make all the sins, maybe someday work on the cast and see what I can do.

So my next attempt is Beelzebub the WORST designed sin the show has ever made.

Horrible colors
For some reason she dresses like she's stuck in 2000-2010s.
Horrible voice acting
Worst song
Doesn't act like her sin and preaches for.. moderation?
Cluttered and confusing
Unnecessary details
Doesn't fit Gluttony
Doesn't resemble an insect but a sparkle dog furry abomination.

Keeping up with the last post speel.

1. Changed the color palette for less eyestrain.
2. Expanded on the bugs as I used several as refrences (Bees, Honeypot Ant, mantis, and flies of course)
3. Her eyes are there Gluttony sign. They do not close or blink and are constantly dilated.
4. Her jaw is hung upon and she drools constantly and her teeth are based on Beelzebubs teeth from his original design as well as the wings. Small extra bug limbs
5. She has 2 sets of palps on her cheeks and her head (which she uses to look more like a hellhound)
6. She sings to attract party goers which encourages them to drink and consume.
7. Her body is very skinny as her stomach is actually in her lower abdomen that has her second mouth (which she actually uses to eat)
8. She eats other demons but mainly her own people. They digest in her abdomen and become Beelzejuice which she collects and feeds to others. She constantly drools out the Beelzejuice.
9. Consuming too much Beelzejuice makes the consumer melt from the inside out, eventually becoming a huge puddle of booze themselves.
10. She has to stay in the Gluttony ring as other sins fear she would devour all of their people.
11. Obviously insatiable hunger.

So far this one is one of my more monstrous versions. I personally would of loved to see something like this in the show. But she doesn't fit the Viv/Kesha standards so she'll just rest here.

I got to say, your redesigns feel like they would have been the actual Sins back in the pilot days.

 

[The Nothingness]

Thank you all so much for liking my redos it's sort of motivating me to try to make all the sins, maybe someday work on the cast and see what I can do.

Asmodeus or Lucifer could be interesting, especially the latter if he's meant to be the King of Hell in this show's lore.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

Ya know, can see this working to jusify why theres like crimelords in Greed Ring, ya have guys smuggling out this stuff from Gluttony knowing how addictive it is

I was thinking they could even dispose of others with it too. If people couldnt pay or people messing with their territory. Like forcing them to drink the juice or throwing them in a vat so they liquify. Then selling them off in the Beelzejuice, with no one the wiser.

 

[Strawberry Kiwi Propel]

Thank you all so much for liking my redos it's sort of motivating me to try to make all the sins, maybe someday work on the cast and see what I can do.

So my next attempt is Beelzebub the WORST designed sin the show has ever made.

Horrible colors
For some reason she dresses like she's stuck in 2000-2010s.
Horrible voice acting
Worst song
Doesn't act like her sin and preaches for.. moderation?
Cluttered and confusing
Unnecessary details
Doesn't fit Gluttony
Doesn't resemble an insect but a sparkle dog furry abomination.

Keeping up with the last post speel.

1. Changed the color palette for less eyestrain.
2. Expanded on the bugs as I used several as refrences (Bees, Honeypot Ant, mantis, and flies of course)
3. Her eyes are there Gluttony sign. They do not close or blink and are constantly dilated.
4. Her jaw is hung upon and she drools constantly and her teeth are based on Beelzebubs teeth from his original design as well as the wings. Small extra bug limbs
5. She has 2 sets of palps on her cheeks and her head (which she uses to look more like a hellhound)
6. She sings to attract party goers which encourages them to drink and consume.
7. Her body is very skinny as her stomach is actually in her lower abdomen that has her second mouth (which she actually uses to eat)
8. She eats other demons but mainly her own people. They digest in her abdomen and become Beelzejuice which she collects and feeds to others. She constantly drools out the Beelzejuice.
9. Consuming too much Beelzejuice makes the consumer melt from the inside out, eventually becoming a huge puddle of booze themselves.
10. She has to stay in the Gluttony ring as other sins fear she would devour all of their people.
11. Obviously insatiable hunger.

So far this one is one of my more monstrous versions. I personally would of loved to see something like this in the show. But she doesn't fit the Viv/Kesha standards so she'll just rest here.

I absolutely adore how your Leviathan design came out. It has the perfect mixture of elegance and monstrosity. Your Beelzebub is pretty good too, I love how you add your own lore that is actually fitting to its sin.

 

[AnOminous]

She said Hazbin would be female-centric, but hardly gives girls character development and bases everything on sexuality and relationships.

This is exactly what she did in Zoophobia. You have a supposedly female protagonist (that the series is named after) and then it veers off into everyone else. "But what about Cameron?" "Cameron?"

 

[Fiwi Karmer 69420]

Here's something interesting about Velvette; in a early version of Vaggie's tale of Alastor's rise to the top if you put close attention you can notice that in the place she's supposed to be you can instead find an imp:
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Compare it with the final version:
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Anyone else mildly annoyed that Versago is in both versions? Like, this means he's an overlord right? Not a Goetia?

 

[The Nothingness]

Anyone else mildly annoyed that Versago is in both versions? Like, this means he's an overlord right? Not a Goetia?

Along with Stolas

 

[Re(Runner)48]

This is exactly what she did in Zoophobia. You have a supposedly female protagonist (that the series is named after) and then it veers off into everyone else. "But what about Cameron?" "Cameron?"

Why talk about what the show is actually named off of? Cameron's ZOOPHOBIA.. NO NO gotta stuff in all her busy furries. She's a guidance counselor, she can just add the fucking furries le epic sad backstory when she I don't know councled them? And that she can explore the world and get over her fear and even participate with the side characters fights (her alien thingy and Damien) even have her have abilities as a human that the other characters don't have to make her different and special in this world. But no ADHD goon brain gotta chase the dopamine then cry on Twitter.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Anyone else mildly annoyed that Versago is in both versions? Like, this means he's an overlord right? Not a Goetia?

Only in the pilot which is kind of in this weird place of being canon yet non canon too.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

Also don't mean to double post but what the fuck is Blitz? Honestly with his morals/ buissness/ and his background I thought he was from Greed. As his father cares alot about money, and he's excited to go to Mammons concert with Fizz, and they are born Carnies. But he mentioned that its Moxxies stomping ground, and has no idea about the environment there.

The ring however looks like Wrath, but he doesn't know anything about the Wrath ring and mentions his employees are from there, and has never been there.

No way he's from Lust unless their gonna sell their children off for sex to freaks. And the sky doesnt have the pentagram in it so it cant be Pride. Sloth is out of the question for the pinks and stuff. And Envy looks like it would be water themed. So where the fuck did Blitz come from?

 

[The Lawgiver]

Ya know, if Viv wanted to make the sins be like "oh, they're more what they repressent", she could have just gone the Drive Angry path, where Satan isnt interested in sacrifices of children or innocent people, but just treats his life in Hell like a job where he's a warden of this prison and needs to deal with inmates who are stuck here.

A lot of comedy media did that pretty well IMO, but another "internet people getting shows from larger companies" example that did it right was this one.

 

[didelphigina]

Thank you all so much for liking my redos it's sort of motivating me to try to make all the sins, maybe someday work on the cast and see what I can do.

So my next attempt is Beelzebub the WORST designed sin the show has ever made.

Horrible colors
For some reason she dresses like she's stuck in 2000-2010s.
Horrible voice acting
Worst song
Doesn't act like her sin and preaches for.. moderation?
Cluttered and confusing
Unnecessary details
Doesn't fit Gluttony
Doesn't resemble an insect but a sparkle dog furry abomination.

Keeping up with the last post speel.

1. Changed the color palette for less eyestrain.
2. Expanded on the bugs as I used several as refrences (Bees, Honeypot Ant, mantis, and flies of course)
3. Her eyes are there Gluttony sign. They do not close or blink and are constantly dilated.
4. Her jaw is hung upon and she drools constantly and her teeth are based on Beelzebubs teeth from his original design as well as the wings. Small extra bug limbs
5. She has 2 sets of palps on her cheeks and her head (which she uses to look more like a hellhound)
6. She sings to attract party goers which encourages them to drink and consume.
7. Her body is very skinny as her stomach is actually in her lower abdomen that has her second mouth (which she actually uses to eat)
8. She eats other demons but mainly her own people. They digest in her abdomen and become Beelzejuice which she collects and feeds to others. She constantly drools out the Beelzejuice.
9. Consuming too much Beelzejuice makes the consumer melt from the inside out, eventually becoming a huge puddle of booze themselves.
10. She has to stay in the Gluttony ring as other sins fear she would devour all of their people.
11. Obviously insatiable hunger.

So far this one is one of my more monstrous versions. I personally would of loved to see something like this in the show. But she doesn't fit the Viv/Kesha standards so she'll just rest here.

Wow, dude. I can actually look at this and go, "Yeah, this is probably what the embodiment of a deadly overindulgence of something would probably look like". This is how you design a sin, not whatever Viv's interpretation of Beezlebub is. I especially love your description on your version of her, both writing and artistic-wise. She's everything that Vivzie's Beezlebub fails to be in every step of the way.

She has factors that contribute to her being this top demon (the fact she has to stay in her own ring to potentially keep herself from devouring others in the other rings, she constantly eats her own people and feeds their remains to others) and has a product that will only worsen the consumer overtime, making what they indulge in a huge risk factor in turn for a relatively redundant reward.

Not whatever Viv's Beezlebub did with her need for "moderation". I don't care about the whole "she needs good juice, that's why she told Blitz to not overindulge" shtick. Why does that only apply for Blitzo and no one else? Why is the supposed embodiment of excess caring about moderation, even if it 'hurts her Beezlejuice'? She wouldn't care and shouldn't! If it satisfies her regardless if they're overindulging to forget or to have ""good vibez"", then that should be the last thing she has to care for. Jump right off with that thinly veiled excuse, sir.

Sorry for the mini rant. I just incredibly hate how they worked with Beezlebub and how like Asmodeus, she's less of a sin and more of a celebrity who apparently has the label of a sin. She cares about morals despite being a literal Deadly Sin, the last demon to ever care about what's right or wrong. She's a complete mockery and her design spits in the face on actually well done Beezlebub interpretations that think more about why they interpret Beezlebub in their vision other than to sell merch and appeal to furries. Not that deep, I know. But it still bothers me.

Anyways. Please, do keep on redesigning these characters. You're doing a grand job and doing one of the bigger things that other redesigners kind of fail at doing:

Making them feel disgusting. You can appreciate the design but you know they're a character you wouldn't want to tamper with. She's not the eye candy, furry bait that Vivziepop did. She feels like a deadly sin from the inside and out. I guess it would be cooler if Viv's Beelzebub was only attractive looking for the crowd but is actually a grotesque creature outside of it but no, she's always this. She fell from Heaven and became a sparkledog OC. Very cool, totally.

Once again, good job. I have no critiques about it other than it's a killer design.

 

[Saxxon]

Anyone else mildly annoyed that Versago is in both versions? Like, this means he's an overlord right? Not a Goetia?

Along with Stolas

Probably a remnant to back when Helluva was just a side story inside the hazbin world, lol imagine the 8 episode season 1 but now it also has a subplot about a hitman business in hell, good lord.

they are born Carnies

You just answered your own question, as a carnival worker he and his family probably traveled a lot between the rings and ended up picking many traits characteristic of each one. He being a drifter also fits his character since relationship wise he never liked to commit with anyone or settle roots, if I didn't already know that S3 is just going to be more gay shit I would be excited to see with how his company is going nowhere and the money is starting to dry up, Blitz would have to start fighting his instincts telling him to just run away and start anew and instead fix all the shit he got himself into.

But of course, what which will likely happen is that the faggot red bird will give them money so the two fags can live happily without working and any resemblance to the original plot will be finally done for.

 

[Various Shades of Brown]

I really don't understand Ozzie's design. The inspiration is clearly coming from the depictions of Asmodeus where he's an amalgam of different parts, but then why focus on making him a flamboyant peacock? None of his heads in these depictions are even remotely avian; he has a chicken leg in one version, but that's as close as it gets. His other two heads may as well not even be there, they just emote when he does. They don't talk to him, they don't interact with anyone, nobody gets mixed signals from them. They're just a "cute, quirky detail" and pretty much the only defining thing that makes him accurate to the fucking legend.

Viv could've at LEAST given him three bird heads or something, then played it off as a double entendre because then he'd be a LITERAL three-headed cock, but no. Several depictions also point out that he's constantly seen riding a dragon. How the fuck did these slip past the furry radar without even a second glance? There's something so fundamentally flawed about having a character lauded as "RULER OF AN ENTIRE REGION OF HELL FOCUSED ON SEX AND DIRTY, PASSIONLESS LOVEMAKING" and the only hint of this is the fact that he has a heart on his belt and exposed thighs. Look at Valentino's design and then Ozzie's. Which one screams "lust demon"? Christ.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

I really don't understand Ozzie's design. The inspiration is clearly coming from the depictions of Asmodeus where he's an amalgam of different parts, but then why focus on making him a flamboyant peacock? None of his heads in these depictions are even remotely avian; he has a chicken leg in one version, but that's as close as it gets. His other two heads may as well not even be there, they just emote when he does. They don't talk to him, they don't interact with anyone, nobody gets mixed signals from them. They're just a "cute, quirky detail" and pretty much the only defining thing that makes him accurate to the fucking legend.

Viv could've at LEAST given him three bird heads or something, then played it off as a double entendre because then he'd be a LITERAL three-headed cock, but no. Several depictions also point out that he's constantly seen riding a dragon. How the fuck did these slip past the furry radar without even a second glance? There's something so fundamentally flawed about having a character lauded as "RULER OF AN ENTIRE REGION OF HELL FOCUSED ON SEX AND DIRTY, PASSIONLESS LOVEMAKING" and the only hint of this is the fact that he has a heart on his belt and exposed thighs. Look at Valentino's design and then Ozzie's. Which one screams "lust demon"? Christ.

The most I remember is that Ozzie is supposed to be a rooster and a fire breather. I don’t think either concept is conveyed well. I do think basing the various Sins off of different aspects of a circus is a fun idea, but as we’ve seen, Vivzie is shit at conceiving good designs.

 

[Clancee]

Vivzie is shit at conceiving good designs

They're supposed to be based off aspects of a circus? All I see when looking at Beelzebub is someone trying to fuse a dog and a bee together and make it furry bait.

 

[didelphigina]

They're supposed to be based off aspects of a circus? All I see when looking at Beelzebub is someone trying to fuse a dog and a bee together and make it furry bait.

Worst part is it's barely a bee. It's that "slapping a wing, 4 arms and/or an antennae and calling it a hybrid" phenomenon lots of furries do when they're too lazy to draw a general bee or understand how a bee-[insert animal here] hybrid can work. They think slapping 2-3 common parts of a bee equates to a fused hybrid. It's the laziest kind of hybrid if you ask me. I'm a lover for all things arthropod, both regular and hybrid, so this unsurprisingly bothers me to an extent.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

You just answered your own question, as a carnival worker he and his family probably traveled a lot between the rings and ended up picking many traits characteristic of each one. He being a drifter also fits his character since relationship wise he never liked to commit with anyone or settle roots, if I didn't already know that S3 is just going to be more gay shit I would be excited to see with how his company is going nowhere and the money is starting to dry up, Blitz would have to start fighting his instincts telling him to just run away and start anew and instead fix all the shit he got himself into.

What I'm saying is it doesn't make sense from a writing standpoint. He is born it sure but his dad owned a circus and it's been the same area the whole time. They didn't change backgrounds or anything thus I'm speculating it was a circus that stayed in one place a all year around. Why drift around ring to ring when everywhere they have these circus's. He says he's never been in Wrath, Greed once for Mammon, but why have circuses in all these rings when it doesn't fit the rings aestetic.

 

[The Nothingness]

After looking at the fan wiki, it turns out Kesha was not Beelzebub's singing voice. This then begs the question why have her voice the character if she would not also be singing?