Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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I'm not really angry. Besides the Rape fetish ship I'm a little peeved. It's more like I'm pointing out the obvious problems of her merch, and that she's just getting lazier much like how it reflects her writing. It's so odd to shit in the mouth of your fans by pandering and shitting on them, but then the fans happily gobble it up like it's caviar. She obviously doesnt care too much about them, just their thick wallets. Truly, an enigma.
It sucks too as someone who has liked a lot of past releases. I loved last years Valentines Day release but this one just feels like the most blatant low-effort cash grab yet.

I usually get one shirt or a pin but this one I had a hard time justifying anything on top of the rising international shipping costs.
 
Also not to doublepost but genuinely WHO is buying the raunchy playmats? I really doubt a chunk of the fanbase is actually going to tabletop events and playing with those in public.
I've seen people at my card game shops have H.B playmats of Millie/Moxxie and a raunchy one of Ozzie and Fizz. It's really weird, as there's a good amount of children who play Magic/ Yugioh there and the tournaments are randomly paired..
 
I've seen people at my card game shops have H.B playmats of Millie/Moxxie and a raunchy one of Ozzie and Fizz. It's really weird, as there's a good amount of children who play Magic/ Yugioh there and the tournaments are randomly paired..
Yeah like it's common courtesy not to straightup just have porn out in a public setting.

The guys with hentai shit in card shops are mocked, where's thay energy for this? Is it because Hellaverse is ~totally queer and woke~ so it's different?
 
Yeah like it's common courtesy not to straightup just have porn out in a public setting.

The guys with hentai shit in card shops are mocked, where's thay energy for this? Is it because Hellaverse is ~totally queer and woke~ so it's different?
Yep that's it. It's very weird to push that stuff on anyone, especially children. And using "diversity and inclusion" when in actuality no one needs to know what you like, no one cares what you fancy you're not that important. They scream about the problems hetronormatives and traditional communities, but never the blatant degenerative and fucked up things their communities do. Throwing stones in glass houses, for what? In this day in age there is no shame, no self respect or respect of others. Sure hetros can be weird but I've never seen a hetro dressed up in dog bondage gear out in public like these people.

Perhaps its from the lack of social awareness and that they aren't socialized enough. Perhaps bringing shame back would wake people up from their gooner state. I don't know but all I can tell you is that this show caters to these pests.
 
Holy shit this is my first time looking at the merch for Valentines day and this stuff is trash. Broken anatomy everywhere. Going down the list of low quality control.

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Moxxies missing his middle finger

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All of Strikers merch is him without his new scar they hyped up so much. Which in the show is also on the wrong side of his face. So double whammy trash.

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Weird incest vides with Glits and Glam on alot of merch. I don't know why she likes to joke about that so much. (Moxxine/Millard, Bee/Satan, Levi/Mammon, Fizz/Blitz, Stella/Andre and I'm sure im missing others) also missing finger again hand under the arm.

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Pin missing his little heads. I honestly can't tell the angle of his body it looks like his body is backwards, and the body proportions look like their melting in this on this one.


This one is just straight cringe "Imp 2 Simp", the same joke used in the Apology Tour that wasn't funny the first time. "Spank me" what the fuck.. Really hate sexuallizing the rape ship by making it cutesy when it's not. Also Stolas is in his regular form..? Why even bother taking his powers, and or keeping consistency.
Good gravy is there any character Viv won't make porn of? She even got Striker!
 
Good gravy is there any character Viv won't make porn of? She even got Striker!
Yes.
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Didn't that fucker died in the episode that introduced him?

Like I can get the cat fangirl because she's kind of an in-joke for the fandom but do people really like Chaz that much?


There's probably something in the Amazon contract that prevents them from shitting out that much product, because if you check there's actual official valentines day merch for Hazbin:

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But outside a few keychains and some trading cards that's it, so they definitely limit the amount they can do with it.
Oh, don't be surprised, every character has there fans, and from I heard, we're supposedly going to know more about his relationship with Millie at some point even if it's only ended up being a flashback.


I'm surprised there wasn't a HuskerDust chain, or at least one for Angel Dust unless I totally missed it, or it's coming later. You can't really argue that the former doesn't have one since they're not "officially" a couple... but neither is CherriSnake? (One of the reasons why I'm watching Season 2 is to see what they're going to do with this ship, because there's literally zero depth beyond fan pandering)
 
I'm not really angry. Besides the Rape fetish ship I'm a little peeved. It's more like I'm pointing out the obvious problems of her merch, and that she's just getting lazier much like how it reflects her writing. It's so odd to shit in the mouth of your fans by pandering and shitting on them, but then the fans happily gobble it up like it's caviar. She obviously doesnt care too much about them, just their thick wallets. Truly, an enigma.

It's because people will keep consuming the slop and say "Helluva boss is an indie little studio project, vivzie needs to make money" as if she's doesnt have a different show with celebrities made with amazon money.
 
Ok I might be going crazy but I swear that the artist fucked up and gave one of the twins three arms:
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Knowing those rumors that say that Viv isn't very good at establishing deadlines, I wouldn't be surprised that many of the artists had to work on a tight schedule after all they did a merch drop on December too, leaving less than a month to start working on these.

Oh, don't be surprised, every character has there fans, and from I heard, we're supposedly going to know more about his relationship with Millie at some point even if it's only ended up being a flashback.
Oh yeah I forgot that both of them ended up fucking the same guy, which is one of the reasons why I fucking hate him, like M&M relationship wasn't already being ruined by making Moxxie into a gay retard that gets pegged.
 
If this thread has proven anything it's that Vivziepop's shows are incredibly deep. Once you think you've found everything wrong with them, a new problem appears. Hence my belief that this thread will flourish for many years.
For what it's worth, the fans or what's left of them tend to have better ideas than Viv herself. I don't consume fanfics, this is just an assumption.
 
Ok I might be going crazy but I swear that the artist fucked up and gave one of the twins three arms:
Great eye on that didn't catch it myself. At first I thought it was one of the twins like grabbing their own ass..? I have no clue the busy art always makes it hard to read. At times I think it would be better to just dial it back for readability sake.
 
And don't tell me it's cause "we're not supposed to like her or find her attractive." If that was true then it also should apply to stella. (Also a woman scorned who comes off as a villainous bitch but ironically is most of the time one of the more justifiable "villians" this show has)
I now think, despite Vivz's best (or actually worst) efforts, that Stella deserved a man who actually loved her rather than a deplorable, narcissistic faggot.
 
It's because people will keep consuming the slop and say "Helluva boss is an indie little studio project, vivzie needs to make money" as if she's doesnt have a different show with celebrities made with amazon money.
It's so sad that they're that diluted. She's not and hasn't been since HH got picked up. Once that happened it's not indie anymore, as the money she made gave her more opportunities then any Indie show has. And since she's been outsourcing animation to other companies in H.B it's corporate slop wearing an indie skinsuit that's fair past rotten.
 
I now think, despite Vivz's best (or actually worst) efforts, that Stella deserved a man who actually loved her rather than a deplorable, narcissistic faggot.

Vivzie: tries to make any women character who wants a good man in their lives and not one thing out of the ordinary (moxie ended up being "bi" and slept with Chaz in the past) look like hateable, homophonic, angry, cunts.

Ends up making the only characters anyone not a smooth brained imbecile can feel sympathy for or agree with cause they have valid points. Stella, karen, lute, katie killjoy. They were meant to be strawmen and it backfired on her harder than springtime for Hitler.
 
Vivzie: tries to make any women character who wants a good man in their lives and not one thing out of the ordinary (moxie ended up being "bi" and slept with Chaz in the past) look like hateable, homophonic, angry, cunts.

Ends up making the only characters anyone not a smooth brained imbecile can feel sympathy for or agree with cause they have valid points. Stella, karen, lute, katie killjoy. They were meant to be strawmen and it backfired on her harder than springtime for Hitler.
Stella and Karen I can get given Stolas' philandering narcissistic ass and Blitzo refusing to do a job he was paid to do because of his personal life.

But uh Lutes only seen as more sympathetic mainly because her boss is actually retarded (Sera), other than that she's just a decent villain in her zealotry, especially with Adam

And Katie is a one note bitch in the pilot who is just a discount Gale from Scream and then is voiced by Brandon Rogers for some reason in the Amazon series with nothing notable to her there.

So far there really isn't anyone fully unintentionally sympathetic in Hazbin but we do have the opposite where a supposedly sympathetic character is much worse than intended, Sera the almighty who thinks Hell has an active uprising despite her magic crystal ball and direct contact with Lucifer.

So far Helluva is the worst written between the two shows unless Hazbin season 2 surpasses it.
 
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