Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[InJailOutSoon]

I worked with a Hattian guy over ten years ago and I remember he was trying to tell me about voodoo but not by name. The way he talked about it in his country was that it was something you didn't want to fuck with but also something that's a spectacle you go to see and be freaked out by. It didn't come off as something sacred, more of something dangerous but you can watch like a freak show.

Yeah, it's one of those things that you can't really easily pinpoint. Besides what I've mentioned before with many aspects being lost to time, it's been incorpated into other religions and the practice is used for a variety of reasons. One place would see it differently from another.

 

[Retink Retunk]

For someone who hasn't kept up with the show has Lute or Velvette done anything interesting or have the V's been relegated to non characters?

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

For someone who hasn't kept up with the show has Lute or Velvette done anything interesting or have the V's been relegated to non characters?

Lute is prooooobably going to be a major antagonist in season 2, but I just know Viv will fuck that up somehow. Velvette has done nothing interesting, and she’ll probably continue to do nothing interesting despite the V’s being the focus villains of season 2.

 

[Retink Retunk]

Lute is prooooobably going to be a major antagonist in season 2, but I just know Viv will fuck that up somehow. Velvette has done nothing interesting, and she’ll probably continue to do nothing interesting despite the V’s being the focus villains of season 2.

I thought season 2 was out for some reason.

 

[RavioliHabit]

For someone who hasn't kept up with the show has Lute or Velvette done anything interesting or have the V's been relegated to non characters?

It was mentioned by Viv that The Vees are going to be the main antagonists of Season 2

 

[brownsuagrbubbletea]

Random thought here after lurking a bit:

Alastor’s asexuality makes little sense in terms of him being a serial killer. The overwhelming majority of serial killers are sexually motivated. It would make sense if he got a sexual thrill out of the killing itself, but maybe not being attracted to people in a ‘normal’ way. Whether or not this would still be considered asexual is up for debate. The ritual where he summoned Rosie felt sexual, what with all of the finger licking and spectral caresses.

As far as his ‘moral code’, I’m not against it, however it would be more interesting if Alastor were just a piece of shit person who tried to justify his actions to himself, rather than a Dexter Morgan type who is lawful and meticulous. Alastor could be the type of individual who feels superior to others because he only attacks ‘bad’ people, but it’s very surface level and would fall apart like a house of cards when prodded. Him accepting that he’s actually an irredeemable monster instead of deluding himself into thinking he’s justified might actually be an interesting story arc if we were looking at redemption.

Someone on the team probably shipped Rosie and Al and slipped it in lol.

Honestly the only thing I can see the whole Ace shit with Al and him being wanting a chase a certain high bc of that one special kill but every kill doesn’t compare to that one special kill thus keeps killing people to get it.

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

Asexuality is made up bullshit, it is a cope of the metally ill lefties having fucked up hormonal balance and sexual dysfunction. Or just being extremely repulsive.

 

[Catboi]

The other canon asexual character are Octavia and Mammon. So the 17 year old so she can't be shipped and the giant fat fuck who sexually abused Fizzarolli. But he's asexual so it's fine it was just for money.

 

[Re(Runner)48]

Asexuality is made up bullshit, it is a cope of the metally ill lefties having fucked up hormonal balance and sexual dysfunction. Or just being extremely repulsive.

I do believe one can be asexual. In all not everyone likes the idea of sex, and could be repulsed by it. Everyone has their own vices they prefer. Some people like drinking, smoking, or whatever than another.

In all sex is a sort of gross action and some people dont like to commit to the partners enjoyment or their own, some people just don't get too much of enjoyment of sex. Women for example don't experience orgasms like men, and a man's climax is what creates children not women's climaxes. Trauma can be another feature, and culture can cause people to not like the idea of sex without some circumstances being met. Tons of reasons why people don't like sex, nothing wrong with that makes it easier for their genes not to be passed down.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Asexuality (not the actual scientific term for reproduction) I believe does exist. I also believe that someone's sexuality can shift during their lifetime as I figure the factors that contribute to a person's sexuality is genetics and their environment.

The main problem is that since words don't mean anything anymore in the modern era, anyone can claim to be asexual. And you can't disagree with someone's own personal definition because that's considered gatekeeping and being close minded. There's also the fact that people love to give themselves labels for about everything. So now not only can you say you're asexual; you can say you're an aegoromantic aceflux asexual.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Asexuality, in its truest definition, is the lack of primary sexual attraction to other individuals, and doesn’t really have that much to do with libido. Though many asexuals are sex repulsed as well. There are 100% people out there that are not attracted to other humans in a normal way. They may form relationships/bonds, but don’t feel that initial ‘pull’ that normal folks do. You see it in a large number of autistics, but that makes sense because they have great difficulty in social interactions as it is. Trauma is a big contributing factor. It’s also kind of a sliding scale, like bisexuality. Personally I wouldn’t consider someone an asexual unless they had always had those inclinations, and it wasn’t better explained by a hormonal imbalance.

The problem is that I think the population of real asexuals of any variety is incredibly low, but people want to be a part of the kool kidz klub under the LGBTQIAXYZ banner and being ace is an easy get around because you don’t have to actually pretend to like the same sex. So it ends up being a special snowflake label divorced from its actual meaning.

 

[The tired cat]

Asexuality, in its truest definition, is the lack of primary sexual attraction to other individuals, and doesn’t really have that much to do with libido. Though many asexuals are sex repulsed as well. There are 100% people out there that are not attracted to other humans in a normal way. They may form relationships/bonds, but don’t feel that initial ‘pull’ that normal folks do. You see it in a large number of autistics, but that makes sense because they have great difficulty in social interactions as it is. Trauma is a big contributing factor. It’s also kind of a sliding scale, like bisexuality. Personally I wouldn’t consider someone an asexual unless they had always had those inclinations, and it wasn’t better explained by a hormonal imbalance.

The problem is that I think the population of real asexuals of any variety is incredibly low, but people want to be a part of the kool kidz klub under the LGBTQIAXYZ banner and being ace is an easy get around because you don’t have to actually pretend to like the same sex. So it ends up being a special snowflake label divorced from its actual meaning.

Id also add that being an actual ace in the LGB community is a pain. Bi and gay people will get on your ass much as straight people.

 

[Viper the rappah]

Random thought here after lurking a bit:

Alastor’s asexuality makes little sense in terms of him being a serial killer. The overwhelming majority of serial killers are sexually motivated. It would make sense if he got a sexual thrill out of the killing itself, but maybe not being attracted to people in a ‘normal’ way. Whether or not this would still be considered asexual is up for debate. The ritual where he summoned Rosie felt sexual, what with all of the finger licking and spectral caresses.

As far as his ‘moral code’, I’m not against it, however it would be more interesting if Alastor were just a piece of shit person who tried to justify his actions to himself, rather than a Dexter Morgan type who is lawful and meticulous. Alastor could be the type of individual who feels superior to others because he only attacks ‘bad’ people, but it’s very surface level and would fall apart like a house of cards when prodded. Him accepting that he’s actually an irredeemable monster instead of deluding himself into thinking he’s justified might actually be an interesting story arc if we were looking at redemption.

Call me crazy but i like idea of him being asexual serial killer with moral code
Hear me out
Alastor is fraud. His whole existence, very, essence is that he sold himself out for power instead of working for it. This makes him a fake ass bitch who tries to keep a tough guy persona only to realize he's nothing more than just another fish in a smaller pond compared to rest of sea. Everything he does is to cuddle his little ego by constantly fucking with weaker demons which is why probably hotel is perfect for him as he can have fun fucking with people and attacking lesser demons without much punishment under some moral justification which is prob how his actual life was before becoming demon

Tying into the asexual/morally righteous serial killer stuff, Alastor to me is just coping with these titles he gave himself thinking he's above others and the "right" one. He's asexual because like edgy teen "im not like the other guys who have emotional connections" and killing evil racist wyippo makes him a good guy actually who did nuffin wrong and thats why he prob has ego and entitlement so every time he's put down he spergs the fuck out seeing he ain't shit. Deep down he is just a virgin autistic black KANG who hates healthy white couples with rest of normal people and needs someone to blame for his misfortune/shitty childhood. That would fit in theme of story as he cannot change because he doesn't wanna. recognize who he is and root of his issue.

 

[Dr. Arinsu]

Some asexuals can have sex but some don't form relationships. Or long term ones. My friends asexual. He doesn't really find casual relationships cool.

 

[didelphigina]

aegoromantic aceflux asexual

The worst part is that I know someone probably goes by this unironically on Tumblr.

You see it in a large number of autistics, but that makes sense because they have great difficulty in social interactions as it is.

That's the worst part, honestly. Instead of someone telling them that they just personally see intimate stuff in a different light, you got people wrongly informing them into believing they're something they're probably not. They have people gaslight them into thinking they're some special superminority because they're having the normal human response of "Ehh, I'm not into this."

It's autists taking advantage of autists because both of them don't understand that not everything needs to have a deeper scope/meaning behind it so they gaslight each other into believing nonsense things because that's how their brain tells them to interpret it.

Like with most LGBT labels, asexuality lacks meaning or purpose beyond being another label to collect and foster like Pokemon and get pity points for.

Whenever I hear asexual, I will always think of the original science version.

 

[Retink Retunk]

My friends asexual. He doesn't really find casual relationships cool.

Does that make him asexual? It just sounds like he just wants a long term relationship, something that back in the day would just be considered normal.

 

[The tired cat]

That's the worst part, honestly. Instead of someone telling them that they just personally see intimate stuff in a different light, you got people wrongly informing them into believing they're something they're probably not. They have people gaslight them into thinking they're some special superminority because they're having the normal human response of "Ehh, I'm not into this."

I dunno, I never considered myself special being ace. Again, I get more annoyed when LGBT people or straight people get on my ass over it in few conversations I had in the past.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Alright, can someone who knows about this stuff confirm whether this is actually some super duper sacred religion that justifies the detractors shouting “muh closed culture!!” Or is this like people freaking out about wendigoes being used in anything because they’re either 1. “A sacred spirit*!” or 2. Getting mixed up with skinwalkers with the claim that you shouldn’t speak its name.

*It’s not, it’s a cautionary tale against cannibalism.

I can touch on this a little bit.

I lived in the Deep South for a long time, still do off and on between there and the UK because my home country is a shithole. Voodoo is widely practiced by white people, especially Louisianan Voodoo, which has always had white practitioners. Most black people don’t care, in fact high ranking figures in the religion back in Africa have said that they feel it’s a religion that anyone can practice. There are very prominent white spirits in the religion, like Maman Brigitte.

The closed religion argument could be made, perhaps, for Haitian Vodou or the West African strains, hell, even hoodoo from Georgia and the Carolinas..but for Louisianan Voodoo it just doesn’t stick. The blacks that get really testy about it didn’t grow up with the practice, usually. Odds are they came into it trying to reconnect with their ‘roots’ (whether their ancestors even practiced it or not), and entered the religion with a very negative view of whites to begin with. Think your upper middle, college educated BLM types. They’re like a cancer for folk religions because they feel like they need to ‘correct’ the thinking of long time practitioners, and are the most vocal when it comes to the faith’s public exposure.

It’s all virtue signaling and posturing, however. During my travels I knew a white guy who was a ‘priest’ and nobody in the community gave a rat’s ass.

 

[Kyria the Great]

I can touch on this a little bit.

I lived in the Deep South for a long time, still do off and on between there and the UK because my home country is a shithole. Voodoo is widely practiced by white people, especially Louisianan Voodoo, which has always had white practitioners. Most black people don’t care, in fact high ranking figures in the religion back in Africa have said that they feel it’s a religion that anyone can practice. There are very prominent white spirits in the religion, like Maman Brigitte.

The closed religion argument could be made, perhaps, for Haitian Vodou or the West African strains, hell, even hoodoo from Georgia and the Carolinas..but for Louisianan Voodoo it just doesn’t stick. The blacks that get really testy about it didn’t grow up with the practice, usually. Odds are they came into it trying to reconnect with their ‘roots’ (whether their ancestors even practiced it or not), and entered the religion with a very negative view of whites to begin with. Think your upper middle, college educated BLM types. They’re like a cancer for folk religions because they feel like they need to ‘correct’ the thinking of long time practitioners, and are the most vocal when it comes to the faith’s public exposure.

It’s all virtue signaling and posturing, however. During my travels I knew a white guy who was a ‘priest’ and nobody in the community gave a rat’s ass.

I didn't even know if the white practicianers of voodoo as it's commonly thought as a Caribbean black practice and a very interesting split.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

The problem is that I think the population of real asexuals of any variety is incredibly low, but people want to be a part of the kool kidz klub under the LGBTQIAXYZ banner and being ace is an easy get around because you don’t have to actually pretend to like the same sex. So it ends up being a special snowflake label divorced from its actual meaning.

Also, the fact that they're getting all their sense of relationships from media which in itself is hypersexual. So because they're not immediately wanting to get into the pants of some random attractive person, they think they must be somewhere on the ace spectrum. Even though, the majority of people would also feel the same way.

Surprisingly, a lot of people don't constantly think about sex. Maybe if they didn't live their life solely on the internet and talked to real people, they would see that.