Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?

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Mad Hunter said:
I wonder what Panty and Stocking, another demon and angel show with lots of sex and cursing, is doing more correctly than Hazbin Hotel?
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They managed to make me laugh with a "whole lotta weed stores" joke in the second episode of the newest season and that is GOLD for PASWG. Right on brand.
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For Hazbin, though? It would come across as a cheap joke. Just a throwaway line that means nothing.
At least PAS can follow through with something like "Chekov's Weed Shop." They all get high at the end because the shop burnt down.
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If it were Vivziepop writing this she'd throw some fucking stupid social commentary in like "weed is awesome we should have MORE dispensaries!!1! Fuck the police!!"
 
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Mad Hunter said:
I wonder what Panty and Stocking, another demon and angel show with lots of sex and cursing, is doing more correctly than Hazbin Hotel? Seriously, I'm seeing more TikTokers criticize Hazbin Hotel.
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Clancee said:
You aren't supposed to take the characters and the situations they get into seriously, it's part of the joke. Panty is a slut but they don't try to make you feel bad for her. They show up, we get introduced to the ghost of the episode, they kill the ghost and throw in the sex jokes, episode over.
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I may sound like an AY-LAWG, it seems like in the parody of "American culture", the japs made a joke of the angels and demons. So Panty and Stocking deserve a beating, from the Biblical perspective.
cryptidfuck said:
They managed to make me laugh with a "whole lotta weed stores" joke in the second episode of the newest season and that is GOLD for PASWG. Right on brand.
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For Hazbin, though? It would come across as a cheap joke. Just a throwaway line that means nothing.
At least PAS can follow through with something like "Chekov's Weed Shop." They all get high at the end because the shop burnt down.
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If it were Vivziepop writing this she'd throw some fucking stupid social commentary in like "weed is awesome we should have MORE dispensaries!!1! Fuck the police!!"
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lol, that's amusing. I guess the main difference is how the approach/punchline goes: in P&SWG, it's a joke and things don't matter, while Hazbin/Helluva has that "social commentary" we are already annoyed about.
 
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Grand Duke Snowfall said:
Sending this here too. Don’t criticize Vivzie even if you’re in the industry because it doesn’t mean shit mmmkay?
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Vivienne just cannot take criticism is the only real takeaway here. She left Twitter for the Bluesky hugbox because she couldn't stand anyone talking bad about her methods and now, even on Bluesky, she's constantly having meltdowns. Hardly a mystery why her fans react like you've attacked a loved one when you say something bad about Hazbin or Helluva
 
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make_it_so said:
With this attitude, Medrano will be lucky if any studio wants to work with her after Hazbin wraps up.
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The tired cat said:
I'd say she'll be lucky if she has fans left or if any freelance animators will wanna work for her.
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Gondolindrim said:
It's honestly disgusting that she displays this kind of behavior. Viv is a showrunner for an extremely popular show on Amazon and she's still stuck in teenage tumblr artist mode. She must be impossible behind the scenes.
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IIR she had very little industry experience before setting up the Hazbin kickstarter. This (and certain other cases) only reinforces my (probably controversial) belief that someone in the industry seriously looking to do their own show needs at least 2-3+ years of prior experience as a prerequisite, and while I'm aware of HH's indie origins, she still sold most of it to the mainstream willingly, so I think it's fair to frame the actual show, and why its failures are what they are, within that particular context.
 
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