Elpizo
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What's Adventure Time Syndrome?
Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread
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Probably one of the canceltards reported it. It wasn't age restricted when I saw it.
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Stop me if you heard this; a cartoon starts out as happy go lucky and silly with a cute artstyle. Then several episodes in, things take a dark turn and now there’s angst, lore, drama and serialization up the yin yang.
There’s an adult variant where a show starts out seemingly like a Family Guy clone only to reveal it’s actually a character study and a deconstruction.
While this phenomenon has been going on decades before hand, it really started to take off with Adventure Time; it was around this time people started seeing memes like “I thought this was a fun kid’s show, why am I crying!?”
Big horrific if true.
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I'm not sure you can really say this about a show with drug addiction, rape, eternal damnation, and jokes about deformed babies in the pilot.
ETA: oops just realized I'm talking about the HH pilot, not the early HB episodes. But the same applies. Stolas is rapey as hell and they murder a child by shooting him point blank in the face after he was already revived with a defibrillator early in the episode.
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That’s why I mentioned the adult variation. It would have been much more accurate to call it BoJack Horseman Syndrome in this case.
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Way back when, they called it Cerebus Syndrome, although that would be an example where the comic actually became a lot more prominent after that happened.
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Cerberus Syndrome for the modern era
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Cerebus. Cerberus was the three headed dog. Cerebus is the aardvark.
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You forgot a lesbo drama forced to satisfy dumbass shippers and LGBTWTFBBQers.
Am I the only one here who finds it kinda odd that lately most attention goes to HB and not HH?
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But of course. Mix those elements up and you know everything wrong with modern animation and what makes it so appealing.
Simplest answer; HB has two episodes while HH is still in production. I’m sure when Hazbin makes it official debut, we’ll see a turnaround, especially with Helluva keeping Vivziepop in the public conscious.
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BLM's "peaceful protests": people get harassed, assaulted and some even killed; cops and conservatives are portrayed as monsters; anti-white propaganda; cops get molotovs thrown at them, doxxed, threatened along with their families; buildings and properties of people who weren't a part of the problem get burned, vandalized and looted; some territories get occupied and turned into shitholes; protests are mostly over idiots and lowlife trash who got what they had coming; same trash is defended, yet zero fucks are given about murdered blacks to actually care about, like that 8-year-old black girl and two black teens killed in one of said autonomous zones; still get asskissed by media, politicians, lefties and celebs; a guy who acted in self-defense gets charged with murder and commits suicide because of that; woman who got shot for saying "all lives matter" is shat on; even supportive politicians get under fire; <add the rest to the list>.
Vivienne:
A horde of nutjob magatards and rightios: takes over the capitol; some conflicts with cops; cops shoot and kill a woman; re-tard award achieved, however, no innocent people or places are harmed in the process (yet).
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She raises a good point though. Oh yes, she’s a sperg and her cartoons suck but that aside this was a major disgrace for America.
This whole thing has gotten the entire country scared.
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I don’t have the energy to process the deluge of insanity that’s been expelled because of that whole shitshow so I have no coherent or really intelligent analysis to add on the overall incident, but in regards to Vivz’s comments I gotta say that so far “and this is why we don’t need cops” has been the most bizarre hot take I’ve seen get repeated about this event. As if somehow having security was the problem, rather than the fact that these dudes’ training, regardless if actual quality, probably doesn’t prepare one for an unprecedented mob shoving their way past security with the sheer strength in numbers that I doubt any of those doughy security guards have ever dealt with. And then say to solve the problem of violent mobs is to... not have any means to stop the mobs?
Between these “this is why we don’t need cops” posts and the people who’ve made it (more) obvious that their real stance isn’t “no police brutality period” but “only use police brutality against the people I don’t like,” it’s become apparent to me at least that these LARPers are never going to get anything they claim to want done because they either don’t actually want it that badly and are just chasing clout of that cool #revolutionary selfie moment, or they don’t get that shit like “restorative justice exclusively” or “make social workers take on more of the responsibilities of cops, but without the guns” are naive pipe dreams.
Between these “this is why we don’t need cops” posts and the people who’ve made it (more) obvious that their real stance isn’t “no police brutality period” but “only use police brutality against the people I don’t like,” it’s become apparent to me at least that these LARPers are never going to get anything they claim to want done because they either don’t actually want it that badly and are just chasing clout of that cool #revolutionary selfie moment, or they don’t get that shit like “restorative justice exclusively” or “make social workers take on more of the responsibilities of cops, but without the guns” are naive pipe dreams.
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The running theme with artist or anyone who's raised online in these types of circles is they doesn't really have any or very little real world experience to base their shit around. Restorative justice shit is never gonna happen because there's soo much shit in this world that people won't just accept an apolgy and call it good. And with giving social workers more responsibilty. I live in low income housing and there's a reason cops are sent here sometimes to check on the mentally disabled when a few of them lived here. They go fucking crazy and if they have something near them they'd can use to kill someone THEY WILL USE IT TO KILL YOU.
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Not arguing here. That maga chimp-out was a really embarrassing, albeit an entertaining show. I am simply mocking her typical hypocricy and tumblr-brainlet mentality.
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Well, I’d hesitate to throw all the blame on a lack of life experience. After all, lots of people lived through WW2, and many of the major events that followed, but very few of them became the George Orwells of the world. If anything I think a lot of just the toxic atmosphere on the internet and Twitter specifically boils down to just how weirdly commodified politics has become over time, and that brewed this obsession politics as a lifestyle aesthetic akin to sports teams or gaming consoles - complete with various levels merchandising & brand recognition (regardless of how patently hypocritical the brand in question is being by doing so; looking at you Disney, Nike, etc.) - which led to this idea that people should look to every celebrity personality and/or artist with a big enough platform as a source of political affirmation, regardless of how qualified or un-qualified that person is to comment on those sorts of subjects. That’s kinda how Trump got elected in the first place.
As for the restorative justice stuff, it’s kinda off topic here so I won’t go into too much detail (although HH does deal with some elements of it) but after reading that Cali paper posted in the SU thread I did more digging and the big things I found is that the following:
Trying to completely replace the current justice system with a "restorative justice" model just isn’t feasible for a number of reasons. For one, all the studies promising instant world peace are completely self-fulfilling because it’s all voluntary and their programs exist outside the current justice system - everyone going to get "restorative justice" went into those programs looking to get specific results. For another, the jumping off point for them isn’t even "guilty until proven innocent" but "you’re guilty, let’s talk about that" and this meant that in the programs I found where this was used (mostly in Canada) the end result seems to be your choices are you either play along or you got passed along to the regular court system where your unwillingness to cooperate will be used as further evidence of your guilt; I’m sure you can imagine what sort of legal nightmare that could turn into. Further, the closest we have to randomized studies right now are schools that got grants to implement restorative justice models in schools to try and lower suspensions and student arrests, and the results have been mixed at best. Suspensions went down at both the restorative schools and the control schools at nearly the same rate, ~12% and ~14% respectively (though it‘s unclear in the data if the restorative schools’ fewer suspensions were from kids behaved more or because the model specifically asked them to suspend fewer students) but the test scores of black students in the restorative schools plummeted, student arrest rates remained the same in restorative schools, teachers using the restorative system reported their classes were safer and more organized but their students reported the exact opposite, and resident class clowns & bullies were completely unfazed by the restorative system since they either didn’t take it seriously or took advantage of the fact some people were too meek to speak up.
There’s possibly some elements of this can be implemented,enter into the current justice system, but restorative justice becoming a total replacement for the courts that a lot of radicals advocate is unfeasible.
There’s possibly some elements of this can be implemented,enter into the current justice system, but restorative justice becoming a total replacement for the courts that a lot of radicals advocate is unfeasible.
And I feel you on the social workers when it comes to the severely mentally ill. Not to power level, but I had a relative who was a social worker; she got stabbed in the throat with a pair of scissors by a schizophrenic in the midst of an episode.
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is truly one hell of a drug. God her chimpout was embarrassing though I've seen even worse from others...
The fact that people will even justify criminal acts and more heinous rubbish just because of assailant/culprit's political leanings really shows how far the state of politics in the US, and by extension most if not all of the West has fallen. Its honestly common sense to be against all these riots if they're crimes and hurt others in the process regardless of who the criminal was and what are their beliefs...
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To be fair
A. Invading the capital is a bit different than what BLM and Antifa were doing.
B. The West, especially America, had fallen a long time ago.
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No, it's not. You are just making excuses for months of rioting because you are on their side and hate that the other side decided to play in the same league.
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Ah the classic “Y’all started it!” As if that somehow makes it alright, being guilty of doing the same thing.
Well, Biden is still president and the conservatives are looked down upon so there’s that.