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Riftrunner said:
How many drives are you thinking? If it's =< 8 then consider an HBA with those SAS/SATA fan out cables. Most cards have 8 SAS lanes but you can get some which are 16, or put multiple cards into a system. (They're usually PCI-E x8 )
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The hba part i understand. It's the external enclosure and power i have to figure out. Case only holds 2.5" drives.
 
SchloppyI.T.Man said:
I agree, why don't you start here: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/homelab-selfhosting-thread.110297/page-6
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Nah, this OP is way better.

Robin's Donuts said:
I am absolutely booty blasted that Synology decided to jump the sharK:
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I was pondering whether to pull the trigger on building my own NAS next. Synology has been pretty decent up to now, which is why I didn't go for it earlier. Guess I'd better start scrounging.
 
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How da hell was synology ever "build your own" NAS anyway? It's "buy a NAS and insert hard drives!"
If you want a similar format, you can get a chassis from U-NAS - https://www.u-nas.com/xcart/cart.php?target=product&product_id=17639
Or Jonsbo - https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-006A-000F1?item=9SIAY3SK6A9556
Or just google "NAS case"...
Then you can use the cheapest mini-itx or m-atx motherboard you can find... And you'll rape synology in performance. My personal favorite is when you can find good deals on motherboards with Xeon D-15{2,3,4}1 CPUs. They all have integrated 10-gig. They're not as efficient as what a new synology might have, but you can use ECC memory, run unfettered ZFS, and the power use of the motherboard is minor in comparison to eight 3.5" HDDs... And they're plenty fast enough to run transfer operations at line speed.

Blessed to build my own backup NAS (hdd cost excluded) for <$400 with a DATTO MB10 D-1521 board, 64GB DDR4 ECC, and a used 8-bay UNAS case.
 
Thanks to various people for links/info, I updated the OP.
SchloppyI.T.Man said:
I agree, why don't you start here: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/homelab-selfhosting-thread.110297/page-6
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Yeah as mentioned before, I did not notice this thread. I asked staff to merge if possible. My point is that I want a thread with an OP that provides various information and is updated from time to time. This thread is missing that.

Jeff Q. Anime said:
How da hell was synology ever "build your own" NAS anyway? It's "buy a NAS and insert hard drives!"
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I never understood why people wanting to build their own NAS would go for synology. You are again tied up in some ecosystem. I think if you already decided to go as far as to build your own NAS and are not in a corpo setting, you should avoid companies like synology and just do things yourself.
Also, from personal experience I observed that many people who claim they need a NAS don't actually need one. People somehow got used to the cloud and putting all their useless shit in there. I think for the majority a Syncthing + backups or external HDD enclosures w RAID (for the PCs) are much simpler and more acceptable solutions than building a NAS.
 
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Barry McKockner said:
and I would have to figure out power.
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You can use a spare ATX power supply and force it to always run using a paper clip.
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I fuck with Proxmox so hard, it's the utlimate hypervisor to throw on any home server. I would recommend anyone checking out Christian Lempa's channel, he's made a lot of Proxmox tutorial videos in the past that I found extremely useful as a beginner. Even as a professional I still find his channel interesting in showcasing new programs & tools I've never used
 
What is the usecase of bloating your setup with purpose built virtual machines in a homelab environment
come to containerland my little chuddies, nobody is going to break cgroups...
 
I have aversian to docker and virtualization. I know it has its uses, but I think all the tutorials that tell people to use dockerized stuff as first choice are contributing to shitty and bloated software and setups.

I always remember how someone told me I need 4GB+ RAM to run an email server because "thats what mailcow needs". Whereas running postfix+dovecot costs almost no resources.
 
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Jeff Q. Anime said:
How da hell was synology ever "build your own" NAS anyway?
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In my case, it wasn't. I was talking about building one from parts.

Jeff Q. Anime said:
What is the usecase of bloating your setup with purpose built virtual machines in a homelab environment
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While it's not something I've personally encountered, there are applications that won't run in a container.
 
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Fuck yeah OP, I've been wanting this damned thread for a while. Any way to help people become self sufficient is A+ in my book.

Legitimately, if anyone in this thread needs *nix advice or information I'd be happy to help.
 
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I would like to have a straightforward 2FA for my simple postfix+dovecot setup. The issue is that I use thunderbird as my email client and I think some 2FA methods do not work with it.

Anyone has an idea what I can use?
 
Jeff Q. Anime said:
What is the usecase of bloating your setup with purpose built virtual machines in a homelab environment
come to containerland my little chuddies, nobody is going to break cgroups...
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My low level understanding, the best reason is security, especially if you're downloading a lot. Also, if something fails, it takes down the container, not the whole system.
 
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