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Wes made some great films. He was a legend and deserves all the respect for his early work. His later work's scripts are painfully bad and it's a shame they got released to tarnish his legacy like this.
I dunno man he was making junk on and off his whole career and he actually had hits after the 80s, which puts him ahead of a lot of the other horror director guys of his generation. Imagine if he dropped dead right after Vampire in Brooklyn or something.

I personally think that it was originally going to lean much more into the occult/government cooking up killers thing, and that with subsequent rewrites this got replaced with cliche edgy garbage. Kind of a shame because I think a movie about the government deliberately manufacturing serial killers with some sort of occult element could be neat.
Maybe I'm the last guy to know this but apparently the script leaked ages ago (~2008): https://www.scribd.com/doc/241092741/Psycho-Killer-Andrew-Kevin-Walker-Inconnu-e

tl;dr but looks totally possible that Hatred guys might have copied it, the climax seems basically the same in the script
 
I love Jessie Buckley.

I like Maggie Gyllenhaal.

I like the look of the film. (Makeup and set design.)

But I just know it's going to be feminist bullshit.
Thats how I felt about the del-toro Frankenstein but instead of feminism it was going to be Romantasy, same with the new Dracula movie (not the cynthia ervio one :lol:) there’s more to gothic horror classics than being horny for monsters.
 
Hellraiser 1 is on pluto, I wander in while they're talking in br*t*sh about towels and I joke "oh, this is some new Hitchhikers Guide?"
 
Every time mia goth is on screen it comes across as her less being sympathetic and more being really into this monster (the fact he is a good looking guy doesn’t help) it feels less like sympathy and more romance *elizabeth is indifferent to the monster in the book, and in some re tellings she’s reviled by him sending him into his frenzy, the catalyst where he asks for a bride.
it’s not fucking minotaur level stuff but it still comes across as a never ending steamy romance.

the ‘Burbs is getting a modern reboot. Originally a comedy about “that house with the weird guy” to “ytpipo be weird n shiet”
 
Every time mia goth is on screen it comes across as her less being sympathetic and more being really into this monster (the fact he is a good looking guy doesn’t help) it feels less like sympathy and more romance *elizabeth is indifferent to the monster in the book, and in some re tellings she’s reviled by him sending him into his frenzy, the catalyst where he asks for a bride.
There's definitely a blend of maternal/sexual tension when Elizabeth is onscreen with the monster, but she has like three scenes with him in a 2 1/2 hr movie and her primary role (which yes takes many creative liberties) is to romantically reject Dr. Frankenstein. He sees his mother, whom he idolized, in her, and she rejects him for his cruelty, which he has ironically learned from his father. She rejects Frankenstein for his treatment of the creation that he rejected.

Del Toro really likes beauty and the beast themes and that's evident in the movie, but I think Elizabeth and the monster literally share like 10 mins of screentime and hold hands twice. Calling it a "never ending steamy romance" is a stretch. I don't think anyone even gets kissed in this movie. To be fair I also do not agree with classifying it as horror. Maybe gothic tragedy/fantasy or something.
 
I'm actually hype for Pinocchio Unstrung. I think this is actually the first killer doll movie in a long time which will actually feature puppetry. Every other killer doll movie in the past 20 years is either a haunted doll which doesn't move around and kill people and just causes spooky paranormal stuff to happen around it, or a person in a big life-size doll costume which just looks fucking awful and is a terrible concept. Tubi is full of this specific type of garbage.

And the Pinocchio animatronic looks really fucking good.
 
Every time mia goth is on screen it comes across as her less being sympathetic and more being really into this monster (the fact he is a good looking guy doesn’t help) it feels less like sympathy and more romance *elizabeth is indifferent to the monster in the book, and in some re tellings she’s reviled by him sending him into his frenzy, the catalyst where he asks for a bride.
it’s not fucking minotaur level stuff but it still comes across as a never ending steamy romance.
Every time I read the name "Mia Goth," my brain keeps expecting to see some kind of hot Suicide Girls throwback tit monster, and then I remember that she's actually some weird eyebrowless Deep One hybrid and I feel a fresh wave of resignation.
 
I finally, trying to set aside my seething distaste for the Warrens, watched Conjuring: Last Rites, and I've almost never seen a more embarrassing big budget horror production. The level of mythologized ball polishing they try to do for the Warrens is mindboggling.

Their daughter being played by a British actress making no effort to not sound British while playing American is also really really really funny.
 
Watched It Ends the other night. It’s a pretty solid little movie that’s more of an allegorical/coming of age joint than a straight horror movie but I was pleasantly surprised by it over all.
I watched about 15 min of that and rage quit. The dialogue was so unnatural, fast paced, quippy, and constant. I immediately hated all the characters and no longer cared if they lived or died.
The premise is similar to another movie from around 2005 about a family getting stuck on a road that just kept going (I think it was "Dead End" 2003).
 
so chatting with the wife about Goosebumps, Are You Afraid Of The Dark, and Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark
apparently none were a Halloween Horror Nights theme?
Universal doesn't own those rights and wouldn't enter into a partnership with the owners for HHN because they assume the bulk of their clientele doesn't read.
 
I watched about 15 min of that and rage quit. The dialogue was so unnatural, fast paced, quippy, and constant. I immediately hated all the characters and no longer cared if they lived or died.
The premise is similar to another movie from around 2005 about a family getting stuck on a road that just kept going (I think it was "Dead End" 2003).
Fair enough I’ll check that out
 
I watched about 15 min of that and rage quit. The dialogue was so unnatural, fast paced, quippy, and constant. I immediately hated all the characters and no longer cared if they lived or died.
The premise is similar to another movie from around 2005 about a family getting stuck on a road that just kept going (I think it was "Dead End" 2003).
Dead end is fun. It's horror comedy and gets weirdly pervy. Still worth a watch
 
Just saw Scream 7 (Jesus we are already at 7)
  • It starts with burning the original Stu Macher house to the ground
  • Sidney is actually married to some other cop named Mark played by Joel McHale, not the one from 3
  • Sidney's daughter is named Tatum (very sweet) and is played by an actress remarkably similar to JLaw. I found her to be likable
  • Her boyfriend is played by an Australian and he just gives up trying to do an American accent half way through
  • The two black Randy twins are back, I honestly forgot they survived the last movie
  • The girl is wearing some cringe buttons that say she/they or some shit
  • Courtney Cox looks unbelievable bogged
  • All three of them feel very out of place, very shoehorned in from the canceled reboot storyline
  • Ghostface is using SpOoKy AI!!!
  • There are a couple of fun kills (one was a nice My Bloody Valentine reference), but not nearly enough of them are impactful
  • That being said, the action in the fight scenes is pretty weighty, which is fun. Ghostface gets thrown around a lot, and he throws people around a lot
  • I feel like the movie was lacking memorable locations and settings. It felt very “sound stage” Gilmore Girls-y
  • Anything about the AI or technology in general looked very cheesy and cheap. Very iCarly.
  • The stupid AI videos took the place of the phone calls for the most part, so we barely got any Roger Jackson
  • Ghostface is, once again, revealed to be a woman and an ugly guy (they can't keep getting away with this)
  • It starts out with potential, but a Scream movie needs a solid reveal and motive or else the whole thing falls apart, and this failed to deliver

I was shocked to see it was written, produced, and directed by Kevin Williamson. I expect way better from him, considering his past contributions to the franchise. He had the two Ready or Not guys from 5 and 6 also writing, but still. Maybe it really was Wes’s magic touch that made Scream, because the first 4 are solid. Even 3, while not as tight in terms of writing (probably because Williamson didn’t write it), is still very fun and “feels” like a Scream movie. 4 was a great “modern” take and did a good job at addressing the tropes of the Scream franchise itself. It wasn’t appreciated as much as it deserved at the time of release. Any way they try to be meta or modern now has already been done in Scream 4. They just end up being trite. It’s time to stop.
 
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