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Vampirella said:
Something like that could work for a short or part of an analog movie. That's been something that's been bugging me about a lot of modern horror movies, so many of the stories work better as short. I know a lot of them started as shorts and I liked those better.
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"Twilight Zone" lives rent free in a lot of people's heads because none of the stories overstay their welcome, and for every couple of clunkers, you get a polished little gem of horror.
 
I watched the first two Terrifier movies. Not sure what I expected but they're just fine. David Howard Thornton is great as Art but everything else fell kind of flat. Having a teenage girl in a Valkyrie costume defeat/banish Art in the second movie seemed like an attempt to counter claims that the first movie reveled in violence against women in particular.

It inarguably does, but since assault/murder against women often has a sexual element that is absent from assault/murder against men, I thought this was intentional. This is double funny because the second film still has women drawing the short stick when Art sets his sights on them compared to men.
 
Samhain said:
Apparently the new season of Monster about Ed Gein is causing some trannies to wring their hands. I noticed this article about it titled "Monster: Ed Gein's gynophilia plot endangers real-life trans women."
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It's funny, because this line about gynophilia was obviously put in there for the benefit of trannies. "Don't worry, trannies, we're not saying that Ed Gein was one of you. He was something else entirely!" The Silence of the Lambs did something similar with the Buffalo Bill character. There's a line in the movie about how he isn't a true tranny, and the line is meant to act as a safeguard against backlash from the trannies.

But the trannies are taking offense anyway. What would they prefer? For the show to say that Ed Gein was a true and honest troon? Would it make them happy to be represented by a deranged sicko killer? (don't answer that)

It's another example of how you just can't win with these people, so you shouldn't even try. I reckon they're just upset that the show is bringing attention to autogynephilia, which gives the game away.
 
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Karamanlis said:
There's a line in the movie about how he isn't a true tranny, and the line is meant to act as a safeguard against backlash from the trannies.
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They can pull cowardly shit like that all they want, but we all know.

I think that, given that he was an actual real life person, Ed Gein is a lot harder for trannies dismiss than fictional characters like Buffalo Bill, who can be handwaved away as 'based on harmful, twansphobic stereotypes'.

But Ed Gein 100% was an AGP tranny, to the point where he would literally put on his super affirming vest with tits on it and go spinny in the cornfields after dark.
 
PS1gamenwatch said:
Does anyone think they would make found footage from a dog or cat's view like some pet's bodycam?
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I'd take the angle of a body cam attached to a police dog, I think there's a few fun ways you can take that. Maybe just go for broke, investigate a cult ala Jones Town POST flavor aid
 
Maybe "the mirror from Occulus" will be brute forced into being a recurring horror icon like they're trying to do with "the Grabber" from the awful Black Phone film.
Karamanlis said:
The Silence of the Lambs did something similar with the Buffalo Bill character. There's a line in the movie about how he isn't a true tranny, and the line is meant to act as a safeguard against backlash from the trannies.
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What evidence is there that that's why that line is in the movie/script? Silence of the Lambs was made in the 90s, long before troons were considered any kind of protected, sacred class or even a legitimate "identity."
 
Big Miss Steak said:
David Howard Thornton is great as Art but everything else fell kind of flat.
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I like Terrifier 2 more than the others but it drags on just a bit too long. By contrast, Terrifier 3 is way too short. Some day Damon will find the perfect run time for these movies. He has two more chances to get it done right. I can let go of the flatter moments from these movies considered they were essentially crowdfunded movies.
 
I like Terrifier and hope the next two do well, but I mean really they've done about as much as they can do with the series. What I really want to see is what Leone does next and how that is. Ideally he gets a good script and crafts his own spin on it, but we'll see, I guess.
 
Big Miss Steak said:
I watched the first two Terrifier movies. Not sure what I expected but they're just fine. David Howard Thornton is great as Art but everything else fell kind of flat. Having a teenage girl in a Valkyrie costume defeat/banish Art in the second movie seemed like an attempt to counter claims that the first movie reveled in violence against women in particular.

It inarguably does, but since assault/murder against women often has a sexual element that is absent from assault/murder against men, I thought this was intentional. This is double funny because the second film still has women drawing the short stick when Art sets his sights on them compared to men.
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I gave up on the second film when it got to the school scene and the acting and dialogue was just truly terrible. Maybe it's supposed to be, like it's intentionally going for B movie schlock or porn acting and obviously you're only really here for the gore but I just couldn't stand it. I need a bit more than a special effects montage from horror.
 
Karamanlis said:
The Silence of the Lambs did something similar with the Buffalo Bill character. There's a line in the movie about how he isn't a true tranny, and the line is meant to act as a safeguard against backlash from the trannies.
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SotL was written in 88 and the movie was made in 91. It doesn't cater to troons. That line from Hannibal is to explain why simply getting a gender change operation wouldn't fix Bill. Killing is an essential part of Bill's process.

Your Starter for 10 said:
I like Terrifier and hope the next two do well, but I mean really they've done about as much as they can do with the series. What I really want to see is what Leone does next and how that is. Ideally he gets a good script and crafts his own spin on it, but we'll see, I guess.
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Leon has been recycling the Art character for like 20 years. I don't think he's capable of moving on.

Kharash said:
I gave up on the second film when it got to the school scene and the acting and dialogue was just truly terrible. Maybe it's supposed to be, like it's intentionally going for B movie schlock or porn acting and obviously you're only really here for the gore but I just couldn't stand it. I need a bit more than a special effects montage from horror.
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The acting is horrendous and there's no plot so they're basically torture porn. Which is fine, but there are plenty of high-budget torture porn movies with better acting. I really did not like the introduction of the Little Pale Girl/demon thing. Art is better as a simple weird little dude working on his own.
 
Big Miss Steak said:
SotL was written in 88 and the movie was made in 91. It doesn't cater to troons. That line from Hannibal is to explain why simply getting a gender change operation wouldn't fix Bill. Killing is an essential part of Bill's process.
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Yup, the book and the movie bring up something that is no longer part of transition, gatekeeping. Buffalo Bill is a Troon and should never transition.

How many troons post about how they wish they could crawl in to their coworkers/sister's/girlfriend's/mother's skin. They seem to think that saying that shows how tortured they are because they're not a real woman, but really it makes people think of Buffalo Bill or Ed Gein. Hell, there are troons that get Buffalo Bills tattoo. Then we have troon authors that write violent sex porn disguised as horror stories. If anything we can look back at SotL as a warning that gatekeeping is needed for transition if transition should be allowed at all.

And don't think that pooners are any better with the way they talk about how jealous they are when they see young male family members going through puberty. Maybe that's why they like to shoot up schools.
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
the cat's owners get spooped to death as the cat gives no fucks, then he realizes the ghosts won't feed him or clean his litter
now it's personal.
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That would be hilarious. A parody of Good Boy where the cat is 100% indifferent to the haunting and the owner's distress.
 
Big Miss Steak said:
SotL was written in 88 and the movie was made in 91. It doesn't cater to troons. That line from Hannibal is to explain why simply getting a gender change operation wouldn't fix Bill. Killing is an essential part of Bill's process.
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Yeah, you're right. The line does serve a storyline purpose, and the troon menace didn't exist back then like it does now. But I think it would be false to say that no sensitivity was shown to the fag community, even back then. You can see how the line implies that if Bill were a REAL transsexual, then he'd be harmless.

Regardless, fags and transsexuals did end up protesting the movie when it was released, so those groups did have a presence back then. And the director, Johnathan Demme, felt so guilty about offending them that he decided his next movie would be "Philadelphia," the movie about the gay AIDS man. This was meant to be an act of penance for offending the queers.
 
Even with knowing why it was changed, the ending for Bring Her Back just feels like a lesser bad ending. The stepsister has no immediate family and could be alone for all we know. This may not have been the filmmakers' intentions, but that what seemed like to me. And why did they have to reveal it takes place in the same world as their previous movie, Talk To Me? Can't they be in their own separate universes instead of a shared one?
 
The Nothingness said:
Even with knowing why it was changed, the ending for Bring Her Back just feels like a lesser bad ending. The stepsister has no immediate family and could be alone for all we know. This may not have been the filmmakers' intentions, but that what seemed like to me. And why did they have to reveal it takes place in the same world as their previous movie, Talk To Me? Can't they be in their own separate universes instead of a shared one?
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I don't have a problem with the events of the ending but I don't like how it was framed. I don't like that we are supposed to feel bad for this evil, cruel woman.

Karamanlis said:
But I think it would be false to say that no sensitivity was shown to the fag community, even back then. You can see how the line implies that if Bill were a REAL transsexual, then he'd be harmless.
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TBF people back then thought troons were gross but relatively harmless. I think the dialogue in the movie specifically says that Bill doesn't want to be a woman, he just hates himself and wants to become something "else." He sees his fattie wholesome woman neighbor and decides he wants to skinwalk as her. We now know this is why, or partly why, a lot of male trannies transition (self-loathing and coveting the feminine). But at the time transitioning was seen as a more extreme and permanent form of crossdressing. Honestly I think it's kind of a sloppy hand-wave to come up with some reason why Bill didn't just get his dick cut off and proceed with his life rather than becoming a serial killer.
 
Big Miss Steak said:
Having a teenage girl in a Valkyrie costume defeat/banish Art in the second movie seemed like an attempt to counter claims that the first movie reveled in violence against women in particular.
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A lot of people, myself included, didn't like the way the protagonist in Terrifier 1 was handled, and I think that's what they were pivoting away from. Anyway, the original Art in All Hallow's Eve was much more explicitly misogynistic.

I recently watched Leone's Frankenstein vs The Mummy, which nobody ever seems to acknowledge, and I honestly thought it wasn't half bad.
 
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