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Getmeout said:
Absolutely not, purely cause my brother never shuts up about it so now I'm sick of it. colosseum that, colosseum this, it's ALWAYS THAT FUCKING COLOSSEUM. "Hey did you know they'd flood the colosseum for boat fights?" "Hey did you know how many lions died in the colosseum?" "Hey did you know people committed incest to get into the colosseum"
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Hey did you know it was called "the Flavian Amphitheatre" because it was started by the founder of the Flavian dynasty Vespasian, and construction took so much time it was done by the time his son Titus was emperor?
 
Otterly said:
Re: psych wards. I have thankfully never been in one but a family member has, more than once and they were terrifying places. The holds, IMO, did more harm than good.
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My one experience with a psych ward was highly positive. Of course I had an absolute Cadillac health care plan at the time, so it was more like a resort than a ward. Everyone there other than the genuine schizo ranting about aliens all the time was some kind of professional. I've had actual workplaces with more genuinely crazy people. Even the alien ranter was pretty amiable.

The psychiatrists were, as psychiatrists are, absolutely useless idiots, but nobody expected more of them. The nursing staff was great. The one remotely stressful thing was just picking your meal from a checkbox thing, and they gave you this weird bendy gummy pencil presumably to keep you from stabbing yourself with it. It was difficult to use as a pencil.

I solved multiple jigsaw puzzles and checked off a dozen or so of my "to-read" list books while refusing to take calls from anyone in the outside world (mostly the absolute scumbags who fucked my shit up to the point I was in there although it was mostly my own doing). Did me a world of good.

Would have cost something in the six figures range if I'd had to pay for it though.

Most of them (from the experience of others related to me) are absolute snake pits though.
Sneed's Feed n Seed said:
You think it's inevitable and good and works and don't talk about any actual hard evidence to the contrary.
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Whatever L. Ron.
Getmeout said:
That was my point, if Petite ever gets to a point where her only options are willing inpatient and unwilling, first she should choose willing inpatient cause that's a lot less of a hassle and you're going either way.
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Pretty much that. It's either going to be "voluntary" or if you contest it, you could be found to be a loony toons nutcase and lose your right to guns and other shit.
Sneed's Feed n Seed said:
Getmeout, you need help. You are going to turn into a lolcow in front of everyone here if you don't get an actual therapist to peel away the institutional bullshit, your mom's bullshit, and help you create a real sense of self and find a real community.
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Calm down, obsesso. You're the one cowing out here.
ilovecornsyrup said:
Honestly you nailed it with this post. It's difficult to criticize psychiatry or therapy because the default assumption is that if you do you are insane and mentally ill.
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Not really. I've benefited from it but from a scientific perspective, it's only slightly better than voodoo.

It is entirely reasonable to be skeptical of any claims from psychiatrists.
 
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AnOminous said:
I've benefited from it but from a scientific perspective, it's only slightly better than voodoo.
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What benefits anyone who isn’t floridly psychotic is simply peace and quiet and care.
You’d have done as well taking the six figures and going to one of those alpine medical spas where nice people in white coats really listen to you and you get to chill by a nice lake and eat nice food while they pump you full of vitamins and sunshine and give you massages. About 30k for ten days (I know someone who works in one) so you could have close to a month there.
I know the pencils you mean. Can’t stab anyone with them, but can’t really write with them either.
The nhs is about as far from this chill experience as it’s possible to get in the west. The one my family member in was frightening. It really shook me, because there but for the grace of God go I, but having seen directly what happens to anyone deemed crazy in the uk, I am VERY careful what I divulge to health professionals and very careful to merely dance around the pit, and not actually fall in.
 
Friend of Dorothy Parker said:
Oh boo fucking hoo. Wrong, but take it somewhere else. Like to one of the 50 million other threads where that is tortured into becoming the de facto topic.
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Wow I got an a log finally.
AnOminous said:
My one experience with a psych ward was highly positive. Of course I had an absolute Cadillac health care plan at the time, so it was more like a resort than a ward.
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You had a Cadillac plan. It was a resort. That's not the ward Getmeout is telling Petite to choose. That's not what Otterly's family member went to. That's not what "absolute snake pits" (your words, later in the same post) look like. The discussion was about the modal ward. You described the outlier and used it to vouch for the category, but also...
AnOminous said:
The psychiatrists were, as psychiatrists are, absolutely useless idiots
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AnOminous said:
I've benefited from it but from a scientific perspective, it's only slightly better than voodoo. It is entirely reasonable to be skeptical of any claims from psychiatrists.
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...claim the psychiatrists are useless idiots, the science is voodoo, and skepticism is reasonable. That's my position! But then...
AnOminous said:
Whatever L. Ron.
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...you call me L. Ron for saying what you just said. I cited the psychiatrists' own published mortality data. You said the psychiatrists are voodoo idiots. We're making the same argument. The difference is I sourced mine and "care too much" on a forum where people show receipts about fuckups hurting themselves and others. You agreed with my conclusion while attacking me for having it.
AnOminous said:
I solved multiple jigsaw puzzles and checked off a dozen or so of my "to-read" list books while refusing to take calls from anyone in the outside world... Did me a world of good.
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What part of that was psychiatric treatment? You isolated from the people stressing you and read books in a quiet room with a bendy pencil. That's a monastery with a shitty cafeteria. That's a sabbatical. You don't need a ward, a six-figure bill, or the useless idiot psychiatrists you described to accomplish that. The thing that helped you wasn't psychiatry - by your own account, the psychiatrists did nothing. It was containment with amenities, run by nursing staff. Strip the clinical pretense and what you described is exactly what Soteria-model facilities provide for a fraction of the cost without the discharge coercion downstream.
AnOminous said:
Pretty much that. It's either going to be "voluntary" or if you contest it, you could be found to be a loony toons nutcase and lose your right to guns and other shit.
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You just stated the informed consent problem I've been making the entire thread. Once committed, downstream consequences hit 2A rights, professional licensing, custody, security clearances. "Voluntary" is the coerced choice between signing or losing-the-rights-anyway. This is exactly why "just go willingly, you can bounce back" is malpractice as advice. You named the mechanism and dismissed the person describing it in the same post.
AnOminous said:
Calm down, obsesso. You're the one cowing out here.
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You posted a multi-paragraph reply. How much caring is too much caring, exactly? The "obsesso" framing is the same move Getmeout pulled, reclassify the person citing data as the one with a problem.

Or, more bluntly, you're defending your sentiment toward the experience while agreeing with me that the people running it are bad. What the fuck?
AnOminous said:
Would have cost something in the six figures range if I'd had to pay for it though.
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AnOminous said:
Most of them (from the experience of others related to me) are absolute snake pits though.
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The whole argument is in two sentences of your own post. Six figures for the version that "worked" by minimizing harm. Snake pits for the version most people get. You can't generalize your experience. You didn't! You said so. Then you used it as a counter to people pointing out the snake pits.

AnOminous said:
It is entirely reasonable to be skeptical of any claims from psychiatrists.
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Then what are you arguing with me about?. You're agreeing with me while calling me L. Ron. You also ignored the whole "therapy and you go home" (PHP, IOP, etc) thing for some reason. Which actually works.

So, what side are you on? If someone cites the Cass Review talking about trannies that's okay, but if I cite psychiatry saying it's bad (which you agree with) that's wrong, why?

Otterly said:
What benefits anyone who isn’t floridly psychotic is simply peace and quiet and care.
You’d have done as well taking the six figures and going to one of those alpine medical spas where nice people in white coats really listen to you and you get to chill by a nice lake and eat nice food while they pump you full of vitamins and sunshine and give you massages. About 30k for ten days (I know someone who works in one) so you could have close to a month there.
I know the pencils you mean. Can’t stab anyone with them, but can’t really write with them either.
The nhs is about as far from this chill experience as it’s possible to get in the west. The one my family member in was frightening. It really shook me, because there but for the grace of God go I, but having seen directly what happens to anyone deemed crazy in the uk, I am VERY careful what I divulge to health professionals and very careful to merely dance around the pit, and not actually fall in.
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Did you have a chance to read how PHP/IOP cost a lot less, actually work, don't harm, don't require you to be committed or bullied into consenting, don't have to be away from home, and that in-community works far better? If It got lost in the scroll I'll happily repost or DM you.

Medicine has already studied it. The thing that should be leaping out to you is how research that says something is bad tends to just end up in file drawers instead of being published. The best we'll get is "alternatives are better" not "this is bad". Except for what was published that everyone ignores, because reasons.
 
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Otterly said:
What benefits anyone who isn’t floridly psychotic is simply peace and quiet and care.
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I think what he's trying to say is that he is floridly psychotic. Iirc, AnOminious regularly divulges how schizo he is
Also I think he lives in the US if that helps, so laws are different.
AnOminous said:
Not really. I've benefited from it but from a scientific perspective, it's only slightly better than voodoo.

It is entirely reasonable to be skeptical of any claims from psychiatrists.
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I figured it was always about science, "Take this pill cause your brain does this chemical and it's gonna give you more of this chemical", "Woah! It did that", "Ya, crazy, nigga.". Personally I just go off of what I notice helps, I try everything, and if something obviously isn't helping I ditch it, and if something obviously is, I keep it. These things aren't universal, it truly is different for everyone.

But I PERSONALLY (Very personal for me) err on the side of caution of only telling someone online that their psychiatrist is wrong when I'm absolutely sure. Mainly cause I've seen how that fairs on the internet a lot and it uh... Turns ugly. They become convinced there's furries living in their head that posess them. Irl I feel a lot more comfortable cause I can better understand their situation, but on the internet... I personally err on the side of "You're on Tumblr/Bluesky/Twitter, you probably are indeed insane."

Thread Tax: I took a big ol' nap, now it's a bit late in the day. If I have time, I'll probably bake a cake today and play some PS2. :) I also have some other work to do though

@Just a boring name Also reminded me that I have to schedule my own autism assessment, hope it goes well for you btw
 
Just realized that my written internship rapport will be ignored because it basically states the obvious that any experienced employee could tell. I had the task to improve machine availability by analyzing the processes. Operators told at the beginning that the CNC-machines are too old and had to be replaced. Then I did my research and discovered that indeed, the machines are too old and badly maintained. We have a machine that is 8 years too old and has 18 things that need to be fixed or replaced since 2024-2025. But management is too retarded to invest in any new machines or new operators. So now we are unable to produce a specific product for a VIP customer because the only machine that can produce it is too fucked up and it also can't be fixed with a simple compensation table in the NC-program. It was an interesting internship but it ended up being meh.
tl;dr Don't do internships at companies that are owned by a foreign publicly traded company if you want to feel a sense of accomplishment (and the foreign CEO's monthly salary could pay for all the needed investments and still have 50% left over).
 
I am a contractor. My job's current level of "planning" is "take this vibe and make it working and useful." The direct hires are Indians who constantly need help and two old men who help them. Me and the other contractors repeatedly do many times more work than everyone else.

My retard job complains about offshoring and reliability. There's no mention of contract extension or direct hire conversion.

Why am I working this hard for retards?
 
I kind of enjoyed my stays at the ward. Mine was pretty chill. Main issue is we were taught a bunch of coping mechanisms, got some actual genuine support, had a regimented schedule and were around like-minded people... and then after a week were basically sent back to the same homes and environments that got us there in the first place, knowing "assertiveness" only works so much when you have a narcissistic family dynamic and the insanity of modern schooling. Basically the problem is something I've kept realizing throughout my adult life... it was mainly a bandaid on a gunshot wound and trying to counter the illness that is the 21st century with a week of daycare.
You could tell the people that were there because of long term abuse, trauma and mental irregularities... and teens who had relatively decent lives who attempted suicide because they had a breakup or school drama. It was funny the one time we had bunk up with those in the adult rehab unit. I thought being around addicts I'd be miserable but I generally found them a lot more relatable than the people my age in behavioral health.
It was nice actually having a group dynamic where I was around other weirdos and had a sort of comradery with everyone. Really was one of the only times in my life I felt semi comfortable around a large group of people. The girls were down to clown, too. Weren't as insane or manipulative as you'd think, and were pretty easy on the eyes. If you ever want to speedrun getting above-mid pussy for a week and the subsequent trauma and rejection, drop the fucking apps and just get a visit to the funny farm. I actually wish I did keep in touch with some of the people I met there. Not necessarily the girls but I do think there were some dudes who were legit bros who I didn't really consider reaching out to afterwards, even when the option was there. Still eats at me sometimes to this day.
I do think the American mental health system is a grift and apathetic at best... we did have to watch fucking vhs tapes from the 80s on how to handle our problems. But there were people who cared. There was genuine love and support. The system itself is wrong, but a lot of the people working in it's parameters are quite the opposite.


I did get utterly raped by it financially though, eventually... considering I had no insurance and no family that would offer any assistance in covering it. Don't know if it was quite worth all that, but I still do enjoy some of the memories and people I met at the facility.
If I was running a ward, my main solution would be a daily seminar where I would tell the kids there to leave their family and sources of stress immediately, regardless of financial stresses or worries of being destitute, and never look back. And I would drill that into their heads constantly.

Ultimately, it's a mixed bag and no one can actually make a universal claim about how beneficial they are because there's a million different stories about them ranging from charming and beneficial and nightmarish and isolating.

I do know having multiple TL;DR posts about about how all of mental health and inpatients is a complete anime-level jewish psyop and having breakdowns over people having disagreements on that based on their own personal experiences and trying to cage fight and demean anyone with a contrary opinion over it, dismissing and ridiculing people while claiming that whatever help might be out there for them is completely evil and unnecessary, in a forum where people are here to talk about how well they're doing mentally and emotionally... is a little funny.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
I know this year i've lost some weight just from clothes fit, no idea how much, i've been deliberately avoiding weighting myself because i know its not nearly enough and probably much less than i counted for even though i've been doing everything right.

i am also gonna be maxxing on eggs, sardines and lentils for protein because i am worried about money and penny pinching is the best i can do for the foreseable future. I am probably fucked and my life is gonna be over, i just want to reach my ideal BMI, at least i want to have that.
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I actually took a test on one of those machines at my gym that measures body composition, and I was expecting worse news. I'm technically "overweight" but I have much more skeletal muscle than I initially thought. And it's fairly evenly distributed.

I've eschewed pretty much everything until further notice, I'm not touching fast food or alcohol or anything like that for the foreseeable future. Hoping to drop body fat a few percentage points before the start of June at least.

The gymcel life is the life for me, I don't know why I'm doing it because I'm just a sperg with no future.
Harry Dresden said:
Does anybody else feel like life is over? I feel like I have nothing to look forward to; nothing makes me feel anything anymore. I have been listening to songs I used to love, like "Kids" by MGMT and "Shooting Stars" by Bag Raiders, and they just don't hit anymore. Nothing hits anymore. I used to look at the year and think, Wow, the future is close. I thought that I would have moved out and begun life, but no, life is a flat circle. I still live with my mom, but now YouTube isn't even a good way to cope with life anymore. No YouTubers interest me like in the old days; I basically watch YouTube more out of habit than entertainment. It's the same thing with KiwiFarms. Even the KiwiFarms don't make me laugh like they used to. I don't even want to wake up in the morning because I know the day will be another waste of time.

I have lost all hope for the future and ambition; most of the things that used to bring me joy in the past don't make me happy anymore. and I don't enjoy my life anymore. Does anyone else relate?
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I only come here because it's the last place that will tolerate someone like me.

I've eschewed all forms of entertainment and junk food for the foreseeable future, but it's not so much that I'll never touch anything like that again, I just feel like my brain needs a hard reset, so to speak.

I haven't even touched my computer this week even though my gym partner from work is begging me to play Warzone or some shit like that.

Also been thinking about my relationship with my family, I feel like my parents are disappointed in what they got for a son instead of what they were hoping for.

Having a sperg for a son is not something I'd wish upon anyone.
 
Duke Nukem said:
The gymcel life is the life for me, I don't know why I'm doing it because I'm just a sperg with no future.
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lifting heavy thing make Grug feel good

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