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We all talk about psyops but I really wouldn't be surprised if some of these blackpill/doomer/tradcon channels were a psyop in and of themselves.
Or maybe they're just right? The more culture changes the less I see any hope for any of this. I kind of walk around almost mute and feeling dazed. I have nothing to say to anyone anymore and barely speak to anyone. Everything I love and enjoy is now so arcane and strange. I used to be attached to my PC like many of you, these days I don't even really get enjoyment from tech stuff, it feels just so unreal. Computers and games and glowing screens feels like such a wasted life. I do not remember this amount of conformity in people 10, l5 years ago. Everyone seems so much the same now. Everyone is into tiktok and woke politics and it's just a horrible world I refuse to be part of. I don't know what's on TV. I only know of certain movies that play because of stupid memes. Nothing seems to be worth holding an interest in, nothing today will be remembered in 15 years. It's a complete throwaway fly-by-night nightmare we live in.

I'm in the best physical health of my life and have no financial worries and my arcane hobbies keep me waking up each day, and that's not enough. You unplug from this modern culture you're unplugging from everyone now, man. You're either in it or completely outside of it. Eventually the lack of people you can rely on, etc. really gets to you. I just wish I could explain all the little ways it just gets worse and worse.
 
I highly doubt I'll ever be liked by a lot of women even if I "looksmaxx/creditmaxx", reject modernity, do NoFap for thirty years straight, go to my local church, and learn stoicism. That shit's not me anyways.
I learned to accept that myself too. Frankly, I see that as a good thing because it means less money/time wasted on women I end up not caring about, my feelings not being hurt and also me being able to put more of myself into a woman who does care about me (in more ways than one 8) ). It's good and necessary to put yourself out there on the dating pool and find true love, but selling your soul to get pussy is one of the most pathetic things I see men do and they justify it with the most pathetic and really childish reasons. In fact, the doing the latter is actively opposed to the former so there's no reason to chase after women just for a fleeting dopamine rush when you can get the same thing and a lasting relationship if you chose to be who you really are. It's why I like girls that are attractive and unafraid to be themselves and show who they really are despite what society says, like nerdy chicks or grunge/alternative cuties from the 90s: they understand their happiness is on the line and society doesn't have their back. Only you can make your own happiness.

Just be yourself and a good woman will find that attractive in time. It's better to be alone than to be lonely with other people, including a "girlfriend" or "friends" that are only those things in name.
 
You unplug from this modern culture you're unplugging from everyone now
I really struggle with this. I don't watch many movies, or tv shows, the closest to "mainstream" I watch will be anime. As diverse culture could be since we've so much better access to information, it all seems the same now. Watch crappy sitcom, watch crappy movies, watch sports game, have milquetoast opinions, lack the ability to stand up for said opinions.

I think at its core, it's that you can't talk to people about ideas, instead just generic culture shit. So unless you steep yourself into mediocrity, you're sol.
 
I learned to accept that myself too. Frankly, I see that as a good thing because it means less money/time wasted on women I end up not caring about, my feelings not being hurt and also me being able to put more of myself into a woman who does care about me (in more ways than one 8) ). It's good and necessary to put yourself out there on the dating pool and find true love, but selling your soul to get pussy is one of the most pathetic things I see men do and they justify it with the most pathetic and really childish reasons. In fact, the doing the latter is actively opposed to the former so there's no reason to chase after women just for a fleeting dopamine rush when you can get the same thing and a lasting relationship if you chose to be who you really are. It's why I like girls that are attractive and unafraid to be themselves and show who they really are despite what society says, like nerdy chicks or grunge/alternative cuties from the 90s: they understand their happiness is on the line and society doesn't have their back. Only you can make your own happiness.
Yeah, those alt girls are fake as fuck obsessed with attention, etc. As time goes on I find most people really are that basic, shameless, and predictable. The worse thing is women want someone who will "simp for them" these days and I refuse to heap praise on creatures I find to be too simpleminded. Their company is generally not worth it. Generally you can take one look at a woman and tell what she wants and what she's like.
Just be yourself and a good woman will find that attractive in time.
The world is under no obligation to lean towards causing improved fates for those who live well by some standard or another.
I really struggle with this. I don't watch many movies, or tv shows, the closest to "mainstream" I watch will be anime. As diverse culture could be since we've so much better access to information, it all seems the same now. Watch crappy sitcom, watch crappy movies, watch sports game, have milquetoast opinions, lack the ability to stand up for said opinions.

I think at its core, it's that you can't talk to people about ideas, instead just generic culture shit. So unless you steep yourself into mediocrity, you're sol.
Yes, exactly. And no amount of chest-beating about the value of unwarranted optimism or derisive language ("blackpilling") will change the fact that people very clearly are easily led and brainwashed these days, and there's almost zero counteracting forces in today's society to lead them away from this... world. You people are not going to enjoy the future, no matter how much you prefer to surround yourself with happy thoughts in the now.

 
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Yeah, those alt girls are fake as fuck obsessed with attention, etc.
I know this is true on average, but to be honest, most girls in my church and just in the college town I live in ,while better behaved, aren't interesting enough for me to want to talk to them. I'm talking more about the idea of a woman I would find interesting than the actual woman irl. I think it's weird women expect a man to be interesting and have hobbies and the like (which makes perfect sense), but a lot of women don't have any themselves or any that they are passionate about.



The world is under no obligation to lean towards causing improved fates for those who live well by some standard or another.
I don't disagree, but I may have put that incorrectly. Look for a woman who will love you for your true self rather than just some mask you put on to attract her. I think a lot of the PUA/boomer tier advice about love and relationships is worthless because it talks about presenting yourself a certain way rather than being a certian way. It's very surface level and borderline useless unless your goal is to just have sex constantly with different women and not start a family and leave a legacy. Some people might like that idea. I don't really. Sounds hollow to me.

I think our culture is so fucked up becuase as a society, people care less about being a good person and more about appearing to be a good person. It's a cancer that basically devours everything good and makes it shit.
 
Yeah, those alt girls are fake as fuck obsessed with attention, etc. As time goes on I find most people really are that basic, shameless, and predictable. The worse thing is women want someone who will "simp for them" these days and I refuse to heap praise on creatures I find to be too simpleminded. Their company is generally not worth it. Generally you can take one look at a woman and tell what she wants and what she's like.
The world is under no obligation to lean towards causing improved fates for those who live well by some standard or another.
Yes, exactly. And no amount of chest-beating about the value of unwarranted optimism or derisive language ("blackpilling") will change the fact that people very clearly are easily led and brainwashed these days, and there's almost zero counteracting forces in today's society to lead them away from this... world. You people are not going to enjoy the future, no matter how much you prefer to surround yourself with happy thoughts in the now.
Or you could get away from wherever you're at mentally and physically.
Sometimes I think everything is hopeless and it's all pointless. In fact, that's quite the logical reasoning sometimes.
But posting all the time on KiwiFarms about how awful life is and how disgusting people are is only going to lead you down a couple of roads. None of them really that good.
There's plenty of people who agree on shit with me and don't like the way things are right now. In fact, I'd say they're a good majority.
Maybe you're right, but I think right now I need some cope. Otherwise I'm going to be drinking some shotgun mouthwash by the end of the year. Which, while probably being a logical endpoint, wouldn't be great considering all of the shit I've gone through and how much effort I've put in to get past a lot of things.


Here's a quick story:
A couple of days ago, a woman tried to get a guy fired/cancelled from my job. He was an obvious target; autistic, cringey, creeped people out. And she looked exactly like she acted: Goth/emo/alt girl always down and with a bad attitude. Well, the dude brought in the receipts and the manager told the girl to gtfo. The man still has his job, and people respect him a lot more than previously.
Is this always the case? No. But it does happen.

I get what you're saying man, but people are a tapestry. You need to ask yourself at a certain point what you've done to actually find like-minded people. If you're in Canada right now, Godspeed.
But not every person is this braindead zombie watching TikToks and talking like they're on Twitter.

Life is fucking awful for a lot of people, but I also see a lot of people doing nothing about their situations. I see people using a lot of bullshit they see online to justify not interacting with people or even trying. I've had so many experiences this past year that have crushed me that involved stepping out of my wheel-house. But I still respect myself for trying and putting in the effort.
Things might suck now, and they might suck for a while. But if you keep going down this road you're going to fucking die.
 
I don't disagree, but I may have put that incorrectly. Look for a woman who will love you for your true self rather than just some mask you put on to attract her. I think a lot of the PUA/boomer tier advice about love and relationships is worthless because it talks about presenting yourself a certain way rather than being a certian way. It's very surface level and borderline useless unless your goal is to just have sex constantly with different women and not start a family and leave a legacy.
So tell me, have you had a lot of luck following this philosophy?
 
Yes, exactly. And no amount of chest-beating about the value of unwarranted optimism or derisive language ("blackpilling") will change the fact that people very clearly are easily led and brainwashed these days, and there's almost zero counteracting forces in today's society to lead them away from this... world. You people are not going to enjoy the future, no matter how much you prefer to surround yourself with happy thoughts in the now.
Yeah but have you considered that you're a fucking nigger and you aren't nearly as special or smart as you think you are, and actually are mostly a poor conversationalist and an unpleasant individual?

Also if that was true, and people were actually that easily led, then being such a big brain as you are you should be able to easily manipulate the sheeple to get tons of money, success, and women I'd assume. So what's the problem? Go start a cult big guy.

There are way too many smart and kind people out there who one meets on a regular basis to stomach the whining about how everyone's an idiot.

If it's so bad and the future is hopeless then consider killing yourself rather than continuing to outboard negativity constantly. Personally I'm happy to take my chances on enjoying the future, feel free to step off the ride.
 
Yeah but have you considered that you're a fucking nigger and you aren't nearly as special or smart as you think you are, and actually are mostly a poor conversationalist and an unpleasant individual?

Also if that was true, and people were actually that easily led, then being such a big brain as you are you should be able to easily manipulate the sheeple to get tons of money, success, and women I'd assume. So what's the problem? Go start a cult big guy.

There are way too many smart and kind people out there who one meets on a regular basis to stomach the whining about how everyone's an idiot.

If it's so bad and the future is hopeless then consider killing yourself rather than continuing to outboard negativity constantly. Personally I'm happy to take my chances on enjoying the future, feel free to step off the ride.
Why do you get so bothered by the insinuation at the average person is a dumb fucking nigger? Clearly not everyone is; but I can just point to a million different, new societal trends. The obsession with LGBT happening in the past decade is because people are dumb fucking niggers. You can try to go on about the Jews leading people by the noses or whatever but ultimately, this is the people getting what they want. There are entire large websites crammed with idiots. Go on reddit or instagram and read the comments. I don't agree with the assumption that you have to find the average person tolerable or respectable. I think we're too democratic of a society that cares too much what the blobby mass of everyone thinks.

And I think the best advice anyone can get is to just assume other people are unreliable, lying, thieving, nasty fucks, until they've repeatedly proven that they're not.

We need more negativity about where society is, not positivity. Maybe that will inspire some generation of kids to actually rebel.

I'm happy to consider the world may not be such a terrible place, but that's not the world I see.
 
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Look for a woman who will love you for your true self rather than just some mask you put on to attract her. I think a lot of the PUA/boomer tier advice about love and relationships is worthless because it talks about presenting yourself a certain way rather than being a certian way. It's very surface level and borderline useless unless your goal is to just have sex constantly with different women and not start a family and leave a legacy. Some people might like that idea. I don't really. Sounds hollow to me.
So tell me, have you had a lot of luck following this philosophy?

ahem ...

Here's what I'd tell other guys:

* Be exciting and funny, and don't ever stop.
* Dress high class--look online, you can get a good bespoke suit from Thailand for under $500. It'll be leagues better than the polyester crap you get in big box stores. Worsted wool, or if you're quite the dandy you can get a fabric like velvet. Every man should have a GOOD suit, not a fucking big box potato bag suit, fuck
* Be a bit of a dick, just not to too much to them--especially be one to someone the woman doesn't like. They LOVE that.
* Be dynamic and mysterious - women like strong personalities, like someone from a TV show--make sure to practice 'speaking with your eyes' and facial expressions, and talking with your hands
* Have great stories to tell to draw them in
* Have power and status, or give the illusion of it. This is entirely relative and contextual, which is why women will chase after low-level youtuber celebs (circling back to Sam Hyde, he's complained about it) and why Lowtax was able to get women despite being absolutely meritless and horrible
* Spend money on them
* Lose weight, work out and get muscular <-- this is the most important one and most actionable for most men

Don't ever believe a relationship will last forever.

so tell me, have you had a lot of luck following this philosophy? nevermind, i already know the answer.

I'm happy to consider the world may not be such a terrible place

clearly, this is not the truth, with post after post, page after page, week after week of your bitching about everyone and everything. the thread is called "how are you doing?", not "how are you going to spread your misery today?"
 
Why do you get so bothered by the insinuation at the average person is a dumb fucking nigger? Clearly not everyone is; but I can just point to a million different, new societal trends. The obsession with LGBT happening in the past decade is because people are dumb fucking niggers. You can try to go on about the Jews leading people by the noses or whatever but ultimately, this is the people getting what they want. There are entire large websites crammed with idiots. Go on reddit or instagram and read the comments. I don't agree with the assumption that you have to find the average person tolerable or respectable. I think we're too democratic of a society that cares too much what the blobby mass of everyone thinks.

And I think the best advice anyone can get is to just assume other people are unreliable, lying, thieving, nasty fucks, until they've repeatedly proven that they're not.

We need more negativity about where society is, not positivity. Maybe that will inspire some generation of kids to actually rebel.

I'm happy to consider the world may not be such a terrible place, but that's not the world I see.
I get to call my coworkers faggots and retards to their face on a daily basis with no recourse.
I just got a raise for being myself and not compromising any of my values. I don't work any respectable field but I like where I'm at.
I see people daily who talk about how retarded the public zeitgeist is.
I've seen some great films in the last year which are not politically correct.
Hollywood is losing billions of dollars because nobody wants to see their shit anymore.

The reason you probably see all the retarded takes on social media is because actual people are living actual lives in the real world, and don't have time for that gay shit. Not to say all people are "COMPLETELY BASEDtm", but when you spend time around real people who are working and paying bills, a lot of them are okay.
Of course things are terrible. But I'm not going to spend my twenties ruminating on how many politicians and business owners I wish I could kill. There might be a violent uprising soon enough, but I don't think it's awful to not fedpost and actually try to help the immediate people around me. And I don't think it makes someone any braver or awoken to constantly tell people how awful things are and how there should be something done about it, while at the same time not doing anything about it.
Most people throughout history have been fucked over by those in power and still had to make the most of it.
I just don't see the point anymore in screeching to the wind about shit outside of my control instead of taking agency over my own life.
If you want to initiate the resistance, I'm in full support of that. But if not, you can at least do something to make your own life and others slightly better.
At the end of the day being upset about things sucking isn't actually defeating anyone in power, it's just making you miserable.
That doesn't mean you have to cope your way through everything and be completely blind to the tumult going on. You don't have to be obsessed with "the new thing" or wear shiny clothing and become apathetic. But you should take stock over your own life.

In the next year or two, I plan on being able to have a place where I can have a spare room or two my family can crash in if things get rough. That's not beheading the corporate overlords, but it does make sure at least me and someone else can be okay. If more people did that, we wouldn't be so terrified and helpless against the bloodthirsty monsters in charge.
Call it cope, but I truly do think the very small things you do in your daily life and the bits of kindness you give people do build up and ripple several times over. Giving someone a compliment, being emotional support for people in distress, offering a meal or opportunity can do a lot more than you think.

And something important.
Or maybe they're just right?
Maybe they're correct, but that's also missing the point.
When you have these sigma bros telling you to get ripped and successful just so you can afford a bugatti as their master plan to OWN DA JEWS!1!, I call bullshit.
When you have Sam Hyde taking 50$ donations to offer life advice while essentially saying how everything's pointless anyway, shitting on everything regardless of if he's seen/read it, and surrounding himself with dudes half his age who fit the mold of everything he tells men not to be just so they can be his yes men during streams... I call bullshit.
You can use truths in what you say but still use those truths to essentially sell snake oil and gaslight people in vulnerable spaces. In fact, that's the very thing most conmen and faithhealers have done throughout history.
I'm not saying there isn't some good advice in that sphere, but it becomes a very dark, bleak pit to climb out of once you've dived deep enough into it.

I'm not saying anything like they're radicalizing people or they're "problematic" or some jewish boogeyman shit like that. But I do think a lot of these guys know what they're doing and are intentionally preying on people's fears and insecurities to prop themselves up as messiahs (funny enough while still playing up the Christian shit).
Maybe the reason their audiences' lives suck is because they're deepthroating their surrogate father figures on a Friday night instead of learning new subjects, enjoying a good book, meeting new people or actually doing that "grind life" they buy into.
They're not wrong, but they ain't exactly right either.
 
So tell me, have you had a lot of luck following this philosophy?
With women, basically none. It took a whole for me to understand that a woman worth keeping around is one that would see me for who I am than as a piggy bank or what not. Again, I'm not what your average woman would call the most handsome man even if I just look about average in terms of looks I can say I have met a lot of good friends over the years by following it in that manner. Even if we've grown apart just due to adult responsibilities, time and distance, the best people I've met were the ones I was my true self to (at the time). Any good relationship is based on honesty and mutual concern for one another, whether that be romantic or not.

I don't know. You can't be negative always if you want to enjoy life. You have to see what's good about life and chase after it. Yeah, modern life is shitty and getting worse, but people lived, loved and were merry during the destruction of Rome or the many destructions of Chinese civilization. Being overly optimistic is dumb, but being pessimistic to the extreme is not good for your health.
 
Or maybe they're just right? The more culture changes the less I see any hope for any of this. I kind of walk around almost mute and feeling dazed. I have nothing to say to anyone anymore and barely speak to anyone. Everything I love and enjoy is now so arcane and strange. I used to be attached to my PC like many of you, these days I don't even really get enjoyment from tech stuff, it feels just so unreal. Computers and games and glowing screens feels like such a wasted life. I do not remember this amount of conformity in people 10, l5 years ago. Everyone seems so much the same now. Everyone is into tiktok and woke politics and it's just a horrible world I refuse to be part of. I don't know what's on TV. I only know of certain movies that play because of stupid memes. Nothing seems to be worth holding an interest in, nothing today will be remembered in 15 years. It's a complete throwaway fly-by-night nightmare we live in.

I'm in the best physical health of my life and have no financial worries and my arcane hobbies keep me waking up each day, and that's not enough. You unplug from this modern culture you're unplugging from everyone now, man. You're either in it or completely outside of it. Eventually the lack of people you can rely on, etc. really gets to you. I just wish I could explain all the little ways it just gets worse and worse.
Well, what do we do, then? Stay stuck inside our heads and get depressed or do we at least win at something? I'm a bona-fide loser at this point but sitting around jacking off our drinking myself to sleep on my Fridays until I save enough money to get out of my hole is better than driving myself insane over the doom and gloom outside.
 
In the next year or two, I plan on being able to have a place where I can have a spare room or two my family can crash in if things get rough
Literally same. I know it is particularly dangerous being a woman in my case, but I am so tired and I know others are too. Some of us have to put our money where our fucking mouths are. I love it when I meet based faggots here. It reminds me of the old internet before we had to care about gay shit like doxing.

Again, I'm not what your average woman would call the most handsome man even if I just look about average in terms of looks I can say I have met a lot of good friends over the years by following it in that manner. Even if we've grown apart just due to adult responsibilities, time and distance, the best people I've met were the ones I was my true self to (at the time). Any good relationship is based on honesty and mutual concern for one another, whether that be romantic or not.
Again, women are odd creatures. You don't necessarially have to be what you think of as hot for us to fuck you. What we want is that you can provide. If you are hot, well that is just extra to boot. And what I personally find hot most everyone else would think is hilarious, but metalheads DM me lmaololololol.
 
Dear god I need to clear out my youtube recommendations.
Past couple of days I've taken some agency over my own life but every time I check back in I see a wave of blackpill/"I'm 157 years old and never had a girlfriend" shit.
We all talk about psyops but I really wouldn't be surprised if some of these blackpill/doomer/tradcon channels were a psyop in and of themselves.
I understand things are bleak but watching this shit along with doomscrolling the comments, which are inevitably filled with either coping advice that is a little too optimistic and naive or the swarms of sychopants who hate that people disagree with their internet daddy and think any step forward is pointless, is fucking tiring.
Some of it's good advice, some of the videos from random everyday guys I can relate. But I end up asking myself at the end "Why the fuck am I doing this instead of literally ANYTHING ELSE right now?"
Social media is simply toxic. I literally don't know anybody who gets genuinely happy and content using it. I basically use my YouTube account to listen to music. So all it recommends is music. I don't tolerate "talking head" youtubers anymore.

As for online black pilling. It's a grift. Like people get addicted to have their bisases pandered to. There is nothing wrong with having non mainstream or even taboo values and views, but these things will just turn your personality into the single political thing. The same thing that makes Twitter/Reddit users unbearable. Being an inverted mirror universe Redditor is still being a Redditor. lol

I really struggle with this. I don't watch many movies, or tv shows, the closest to "mainstream" I watch will be anime. As diverse culture could be since we've so much better access to information, it all seems the same now. Watch crappy sitcom, watch crappy movies, watch sports game, have milquetoast opinions, lack the ability to stand up for said opinions.

I think at its core, it's that you can't talk to people about ideas, instead just generic culture shit. So unless you steep yourself into mediocrity, you're sol.
Same here. I feel like a weird hermit, but I am fine with it. But it certainly is lonely as all Hell. IRL people care only about money and complaining about life. All my online places, interests and taste shit is ruled by troons and activist types.

I try not to worry about it, that accomplishes nothing.
 
(I posted this on my profile but I want to post it here too)
today I am happy to say that I am well, but dealing with sad news.
I know some people have a hard time during this season. I've personally lost 3 friends in the span of a month thru nov-dec. I keep wanting to text them but... ya know. I can't.
so, please know it won't last forever! the intensified sadness a lot of people experience in the holiday season. it's not going to last forever! I'm rooting for you, kiwisiblings!!
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(I don't care if this is cheesy. if something cheesy like this can make someone smile then I'm happy. reach out to your friends, ok? I wish I would have.)

take care of yourselves. do something you enjoy 💕
 
After expressing that I hope you all get a good night's sleep, maybe do some deep breathing or something, drink a big glass of water, and find some kind of small victory in your next day because all of you faggots deserve to be a little happier I'm going to choose to ignore everything about the past few pages and move on to PEACE and JOY.

For the first time since childhood I have full blown Santa fever. Maybe I had a touch of it when I had my first apartment without roommates, but it was a mild case owing to the nihilism vax of the early twenties and I fought it off after a little tinsel. This year it's extremely apparent. We're more settled into the house now and I've decorated pretty sparsely for the last few holidays because when you're still hammering out organization and storage plus the debris field inherent to young children you just don't need more shit laying around the place. It's like frosting a shit cake with shit. There's just too much shit everywhere.

Part of it might be the kids being old enough to be hyped, maybe it's that my sister came over to help me edit and organize the boxes of holiday stuff from the parents and in-laws so all the decorations are things I actually want to put up and themes to build on, it could be that for the first time in a long time I'm fully ahead of the housework and yardwork and can enjoy the process. The world might be ending but my domicile is goddamn festive and I'm proud.

There are cookies in the freezer. There is a list of cookies to make. We already made cute little handprint dishes in three sizes for the grandparents that turned out like something you would pay to have made instead of a janky craft. I've got my parents' dinner table since they downsized to a condo and it's dressed like something you'd see on a live laugh love book club bitch's Pinterest. I've been up and down the ladder all night like a Mexican in summer hanging lights and baubles and arranging seasonal floral and garlands like it's my job.

And I guess it kind of is. Outside and online shit is spiraling into blackpill territory more each day and you can't control that, but you can seed positive memories in the people around you with something as simple as actually giving in and singing carols instead of politely enduring them. I think only my kids are enjoying this and the other adults in my circle think I've snapped, but fuck it. I'll continue to extend that childhood magic as long as I can. Until this year I don't think I've ever reacted to seeing the old janky ornaments I made for my parents back when Santa was still as real as cartoons on Saturday, but I'm glad I have them now. There's something pure and old-fashioned family about remembering your mom saying "You know what? Go get the box of craft paint and find some glue, I'll get the vacuum. We're getting into the glitter stash" and paying that forward.
 
so tell me, have you had a lot of luck following this philosophy? nevermind, i already know the answer.
Far more than just being a nice, safe, guy, yes.
When you have these sigma bros telling you to get ripped and successful just so you can afford a bugatti as their master plan to OWN DA JEWS!1!, I call bullshit.
Those people are all renting out those fancy cars anyway. You should look down on this kind of materialism. Owning cars like that is to impress other people, and I'm telling people to not worry about impressing other people... or worrying what other people think.

I just don't see the point anymore in screeching to the wind about shit outside of my control instead of taking agency over my own life.
The more you pull away from mainstream entertainment, mainstream society, the happier you will be. It just comes at the cost that everyone else complains about here, loneliness.

It is why I told you, weeks ago, to not tie in your personal self-esteem and concept of "success" in life with glory and social esteem. You will find that you prostitute yourself and your values, and other people just make things worse anyway.

I'm glad you're owning your own life, and should. The problem is that people today really suck, I'm not saying anything new, and if you want to not go insane, you have to avoid them.

But no matter what, other people are never going to be a source of happiness. Collectively, they all enforce market trends that turn media into slop, they generally like to lie and steal, and just introduce more problems into your life. The less average, normal people in your life, the better you'll do.

Well, what do we do, then? Stay stuck inside our heads and get depressed or do we at least win at something? I'm a bona-fide loser at this point but sitting around jacking off our drinking myself to sleep on my Fridays until I save enough money to get out of my hole is better than driving myself insane over the doom and gloom outside.
Get hobbies on the fringes of society. Something that gives you some sort of skill. Stuff that doesn't involve people. Ultimately we live in bad times and you're never really gonna be completely happy.
 
It is why I told you, weeks ago, to not tie in your personal self-esteem and concept of "success" in life with glory and social esteem. You will find that you prostitute yourself and your values, and other people just make things worse anyway.
But what if that's what I like? I don't need to really like everyone around me and you can always trust someone as far as you can shove them. In the end, the only person you should hold to your own standards are yourself and perhaps your subordinates. If that personally makes you unable to find any meaning in their company then fine by you, but until someone screws me over or I think they will then their company is fine by me to at least some extent.
 
But what if that's what I like? I don't need to really like everyone around me and you can always trust someone as far as you can shove them. In the end, the only person you should hold to your own standards are yourself and perhaps your subordinates. If that personally makes you unable to find any meaning in their company then fine by you, but until someone screws me over or I think they will then their company is fine by me to at least some extent.
Well, I'm talking more about the fame seeking and needing other people's approval involved somewhere in one own's internal drive. Specifically with (((I am NOT A Jew))) he has artistic inspirations. I've had this sort of conversation with other, older people in the arts, and I and others have found people's tastes and what they enjoy to be so... horrible that I fear that anyone who wants to create something new and unique but is motivated by people admiring their work, you know, the old movie trope of an artist or actor getting good reviews and everything going swimmingly... they're going to be disappointed, that's not the world we can live in anymore. There have been many things I wanted to do in life that I am going to have let pass me by because they require willing collaborators that don't exist.

People say I'm negative, but honestly I don't see the same world any of you see. All I see everywhere is a world of decaying relationships, low social trust, extremely narcissistic behavior, and a completely corrupt and disgusting media. I see optimism as one big grift, selling people false hopes and the aesthetics of a happy world that doesn't exist and never has. It seems like, in our modern world, any personal joy comes from within and from without other people. Everyone acts like the world they see on TV is the real one, but it seems a lot darker than that.
With women, basically none. It took a whole for me to understand that a woman worth keeping around is one that would see me for who I am than as a piggy bank or what not. Again, I'm not what your average woman would call the most handsome man even if I just look about average in terms of looks I can say I have met a lot of good friends over the years by following it in that manner. Even if we've grown apart just due to adult responsibilities, time and distance, the best people I've met were the ones I was my true self to (at the time). Any good relationship is based on honesty and mutual concern for one another, whether that be romantic or not.

I don't know. You can't be negative always if you want to enjoy life. You have to see what's good about life and chase after it. Yeah, modern life is shitty and getting worse, but people lived, loved and were merry during the destruction of Rome or the many destructions of Chinese civilization. Being overly optimistic is dumb, but being pessimistic to the extreme is not good for your health.
And that's what I am saying. If you're true to yourself, you're going to be pretty lonesome. I think, due to the internet and social media, we are in uniquely bad times, and it's a mistake to look at how the world was before and think it will be the same or ever could be again.

I don't think the big quest is to find happiness. I think it's to be as happy as possible, with realistic expectations. Everyone tells you to reach for the stars, but you spread your wings and fly away and find out you fucked up as you splatter into the Aegean sea. I don't believe big dreams are a good thing. Realistic dreams are. Realistic expectations of dreams, jobs, love, etc. We are a society massively influenced by popular entertainment that emphasizes certain things. Someone can write a story with any kind of person in it, and often times those people don't exist. In the real world, people tend to be rather same-ish and unwilling to deviate from tried and true stuff.

I don't think I'm all that negative. Or at least, I feel like I tone down my negativity for other people's benefit to a pretty big degree. Whatever is in my head is far more negative than anything I've voiced here. Occasionally people say something like, "if you're so smart, why aren't you famous?" and they don't get it. That's valuing the wrong thing. Social status, fame, it's all wasteful and transient stuff, and it's not what really matters.
 
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