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I am not quite sure.

Watching the MATI reupload today, I almost got jealous at some troon saying they were getting joy out of going out dressed up.

I almost forgot that people enjoy doing things, even the worst of them. I wish I still did/will again.

I am also very likely going to prison for a significant amount of time for an old thing sometime this year... I have not really thought about it in itself, but I am already panicking at the thought of having to go through alcohol withdrawal in there. So obviously, I drink more in preparation...

Even though I will very likely lose my business, it might be a good thing for me in the end, it's not like it's been a positive influence in my life anyway, more like a useful distraction. And stopping drinking would obviously be a plus.

Surprisingly, I am more or less at peace with it, almost excited in some weird way.

I probably should not be posting this, and I've been trying to refrain from it, but I somehow really want to share because it's on my mind, and there is nowhere else I can think of doing so.

Thanks for reading my diary.
 
I think I'm gonna go to church on Sunday for the first time in my life. It feels like I'm going against the grain but being faithless has always felt empty and sad.

I'm still a bit lost about it so I don't know what to expect lol.
Late response I guess, but I 'rediscovered' my faith about five years ago, and went to the church of a minister I met (and still consider a friend.)

My first time there I was welcomed by everyone, and people were nothing but friendly. No judgement, no 'you're new here,' just right into it, one of the congregation.

It was like home.
 
I'm doing well. Maybe this will categorize as "power levelling", so here goes:

I've been helping my grandmother, and doing chores at our apartment. She's of age, yet I'm the one staying with her since I'm unemployed. As a side note, I plan on getting a job this year, and going back to the gym after a short break to continue my weight loss journey. My objective is to reach 110 KG, and continue from there, currently at around 126 KG. Yet a mix of mass and muscles. I have issues with anxiety so I must keep myself busy.

I've been thinking on joining a church around where I live. More because I am missing company from folks my age, since I don't go to clubs or the like.

How is everyone else doing?
 
Got to witness a grown sperg throw a tantrum in Target.
I was walking by the toy aisle to go to the food isle when I saw a dirty, badly dressed man in his 40s screaming at his older, 70ish dad.
Sperg: "You always gaslight me! You always lie and lie and lie!"
Dad: "Come on, let's get you some legos"
Sperg: "No fuck you, always gaslighting!"
It was very amusing to watch.
As I finished checking out I saw the two with an armload of Disney slop in their basket.
That's it. The highlight of my day.
 
It’s a mixed day for me. I made my dad proud by going to the junkyard to find a part to fix my sun visor. Then I was gonna replace the knock sensor but discovered it’s really hard to reach so I have to wait for dad to come over and help me.
The bad thing is my old kitty pooped her bed so I’m worried about her health. I’m gonna schedule a vet appointment but I think they are just going to confirm what I’ve been thinking. She is probably going senile. :(
 
Got to witness a grown sperg throw a tantrum in Target.
I was walking by the toy aisle to go to the food isle when I saw a dirty, badly dressed man in his 40s screaming at his older, 70ish dad.
Sperg: "You always gaslight me! You always lie and lie and lie!"
Dad: "Come on, let's get you some legos"
Sperg: "No fuck you, always gaslighting!"
It was very amusing to watch.
As I finished checking out I saw the two with an armload of Disney slop in their basket.
That's it. The highlight of my day.
Well, that's depressing. Imagine knowing when you die you'll leave that.
 
My first time there I was welcomed by everyone, and people were nothing but friendly. No judgement, no 'you're new here,' just right into it, one of the congregation.

It was like home.
This is what happened to me too. I had people that picked me up right away, invited me to their house for dinner and parties and whatnot, the priests were awesome. I have no complaints. I just...uh...I guess I have spent my entire life around scientists and engineers and I have never met I guess were what were 'normally' adjusted people. It was a culture shock for sure, but in a very good way.

I've been helping my grandmother, and doing chores at our apartment. She's of age, yet I'm the one staying with her since I'm unemployed. As a side note, I plan on getting a job this year, and going back to the gym after a short break to continue my weight loss journey. My objective is to reach 110 KG, and continue from there, currently at around 126 KG. Yet a mix of mass and muscles. I have issues with anxiety so I must keep myself busy.
Being a caretaker is a job in itself. You aren't freeloading if you are really helping her. Good luck with the weight loss.

Well, that's depressing. Imagine knowing when you die you'll leave that.
I'm very glad my near adult child seems well adjusted and has a goal to go to uni, get a job, and leave the house. There is no real question in her mind about it. It makes me very proud.
 
@Friend of Dorothy Parker you work the graveyard shift? Do you not have trouble sleeping during the day with the sun out and all the hustle and bustle outside?

The reason I talk about the end of the west is because it is directly reducing my quality of life and yours as well. Everything is collapsing around us. If this was the 00s we could at least have savings in a bank and consuming was cheaper and their was an abundance of everything, and society was a lot more high trust. Just the fact that retirement probably won't exist for anyone other than those in their 60s is horrifying enough (if any of us even make it to that age).

I don't agree with people like Josh who say there is always an out or you just have to be positive. You can only have that mindset if you have things you enjoy in life and a reason to live. Otherwise what do you even pretend to be happy about? I couldn't even be convincing if I tried.

And what are we even meant to do? I am so sick of work that I don't think I could be happy at any job (and jobs that allow you to work from home which I would prefer are incredibly rare and sought after). I am tired of spending the short time off work doing chores, I must of done the dishes at least 1.5k times since I moved into this house, I'm so fucking sick of doing the same motions over and over again. I'm sick of getting a brief moment of free time and it's at the end of the day when I'm tired and not in the mood to do anything. For most of my week I can't even be myself or have a personality, I'm just a mindless working class robot.

What are the options? My country has state assisted suicide but fuck that. I fully understand why so many men kill themselves but I don't approve of it. I can't get assistance from the government because I'm not in one of the many "marginalized" groups that all of the support goes to. I would love a break from work but everything is so expensive that I'd run out of money paying the mortgage pretty quickly and interest is about to go up even higher. I don't have time to try and find a hobby to do and actually slot it in somewhere. No wonder so many people turn to E begging, it does sound far more attractive than bring a working drone in this day and age.

I mean there isn't much to do because anything I used to enjoy has been taken over and turned into something horrid. There are no bread and circuses anymore. And I don't have the time and energy to do it. I know to a company you are just a human resource so I don't care about that, but it's the other workers that would have their work day made harder for quite a while until they find another person and train them up.

So many people are in this exact same situation and there is no answer, no way to get out, no way to find meaning in life. We don't even have a group or an outlet for our frustrations. Our governments and media ignore us and sweep the causes under the rug. Some shitty crowd like Vice will talk about Japanese men shutting themselves in their rooms but they will never talk about what is going on with us in the west. Sorry for the ramblings but TL;DR there is no answer to this trap and it's only going to get worse as the walls close in further.
 
I just got done doing some weekend overtime. It feels nice to have steady money again and it seems like I'm still fine for now. I'm past my initial reserve contract for some months now and it's making me think back to my 20s. I had a lot that I could have done and I have no reason to fault myself for much more than faulty execution but it still galls me how much I lost or missed out on. It's a strange place to be in for me. I've had far more opportunities and I've taken them and stewarded them well. I made friends and acquaintances, did my best with my family, made plans and often worked hard. Yet, the friends I thought I made threw me aside, the woman i wanted most was poisoned against me, the brother I invested trust in turned out to be a coward and couldn't even be a trusty fool and the family I had left which I was forced to turn to were useless even within some of the simplest requests while being utterly overbearing. I took it easy and never really shot too high beyond what I was comfortable with but I never thought I would be so disappointed in what I got. I've literally turned to the book of psalms for at least vindication yet I'm not remotely positive enough to trust in the prayers for fortune. I hope that changes.
 
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Being a caretaker is a job in itself. You aren't freeloading if you are really helping her. Good luck with the weight loss.

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That's true. The question is that there's the cost of living and I want to help my family as well. I usually try to do something, to help, but getting a job will be the easiest way. At least taking care of my own things is helping. Still - it's a good way of pointing out a positive thing. I appreciate that!
 
Set up to get drinks with a girl on tinder, she took one look at me and immediately noped out. Fucking brutal.

It's not like my pics are old or misleading in the slightest. I don't know what I'm supposed to do aside from give up.
Hoes will be hoes. It'd be worse if you actually wasted time and money on her and then found the kind of person she is.
 
Set up to get drinks with a girl on tinder, she took one look at me and immediately noped out. Fucking brutal.

It's not like my pics are old or misleading in the slightest. I don't know what I'm supposed to do aside from give up.
For all you know she saw that you wouldn't be an easy mark so you dodged a bullet.
 
Just saw the "Do you wonder what happened to people you knew online?" thread and was about to type out some powerlevel shit but stopped.
It just kind of reminded me of a pain I've been feeling the last two years.

Doesn't it fucking suck when you miss someone but you don't think they miss you?

Without going into detail, I just have had a hole in my heart for a long time now. It's really painful when someone who's seemed really ride or die just kind of drops you like a bad habit over some small shit.

So much wasted time I can't get back. So much emotion and bonds that still stick with me.
I lost friends I'd made over years in an instant. And it wasn't because I did anything nefarious, or because I colossally fucked up. I just had a disagreement with people that I refused to apologize over. That's all it took.
I sometimes think of going back to the same place to see if anyone's messaged me, but I'm too terrified. They already had other ways to contact me and haven't... and it's been years. I don't think I could live with the actual answer if I ever went back there.

I know I'm being vague but um... it's really fucking painful.
The shittiest part about it is that it's not even like I lost a real friend. I never even met these people. But I still hurt a lot, knowing they're probably doing just fine without me.
I shared my most intimate moments with these people, tried to be there for everything, spent a good deal of time talking to them. Some of them helped me at my lowest points.
But it's all just gone now. And I haven't heard a single word back anywhere else. So pretty safe to assume that ships' gone.
And you think the pain goes away eventually but it just doesn't sometimes.
I hate that I can't keep relationships with people. I hate when I think me being dedicated to others and standing by them means anything when I'd be the first person they'd drop anyways.

Overall, I'm happy I don't make "internet friends" anymore. In the end, it's been a lot better for me in the long run. I've done so much more in my life, I've made actual connections with real life people. I'm a better person than I was before. And the honest truth is, I'm kind of happy I haven't touched a place like Discord in years. I see the wasted potential of people wasting their life away on parasocial relationships and internet pals.
Even here, I appreciate you guys. But I'm really happy sometimes there is no delusion of friendship here. We talk, we give some advice, but we're not hombres or anything/
I just really wish the lesson to get here wasn't so bleak and cold.

I miss my old internet friends, even if they were never actually "friends". And the selfish part of me really wishes they missed me.
I wish I didn't feel this way about literal autists on a gaming server, but here I am.
 
What you are feeling is understandable. We all want to be wanted be wanted by other people, but sometimes others may just want us for their own benefit rather than us as people. The best thing to do is just be vigilant and look out for yourself first and also forgive yourself for any lost time, emotion or oppurtunities that you wasted on fake "friendships" whether they be online or IRL. The next thing to do is to move on and try to find IRL connections. Like you said, these people aren't your friends and don't miss you, so there's no harm in forgetting them and the good times you had and living in the present moment with people that know you and love you. At least, that need connection is satisfied rather than wasting it over fake connections and parasocial ones.

It's kinda funny in a way. Everyone thought the Internet was going to bring everyone closer together for the first decade of the millenium but after the smartphone got public attention as well as social media ~2007/2008, people have become more isolated than ever at an exponential rate. At this point, there's no need to worry about people who don't bother to worry about you, you know? It's better to enjoy life than to dread it waiting for a former friend.
 
you work the graveyard shift? Do you not have trouble sleeping during the day with the sun out and all the hustle and bustle outside?
Lol, no, I am a white-collar person. I work insane hours at times because the work demands it, and/or I have goals. So when I work to 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 am, I either get a couple hours' sleep or just power through. My "official" day starts at 8/830, and I average 5-6 meetings/day, sometimes 8 or more, so actually executing on the documentable work - if I want to do it well, do it right, and go beyond - often has to occur well outside of the 9-5.

I don't agree with people like Josh who say there is always an out or you just have to be positive.
Josh is correct.

You can only have that mindset if you have things you enjoy in life and a reason to live. Otherwise what do you even pretend to be happy about? I couldn't even be convincing if I tried.
OK, but why not find things to be happy about?

Life has challenges and difficulties, for most. That's not new to the 2020s. Expecting guaranteed predictability aligned with one's preferences does seem to be a relatively new phenomenon, however.

Everything is collapsing around us.

US GDP increased 3.3% in Q42023, higher than expected, and contra recession concerns.

I gather you're in Canada, or maybe elsewhere, with your reference to a suicide option, but the US economic performance is often a leading indicator of general world economic conditions.

So many people are in this exact same situation and there is no answer, no way to get out, no way to find meaning in life.
Where do you look for "meaning in life"? You've talked about money, preferential treatment. How do those things impact finding "meaning"? Outside of truly crushing financial situations, which I know can push people into states of depression and anxiety to the point of being unable to function, it might crimp your style, but doesn't dictate your life. If it removes the enjoyment of a thing not to have excess money to indulge in it, then one might wonder how authentic the enjoyment really is. I'm speaking generally, of course. But let's say I love and find meaning in music and literature. I've gone through periods in life when going to concerts or even buying books were things I did not have room for. That didn't kill my love of music or literature, just restricted the ways it could manifest. But the meaning I found in them was not danaged.

And a general caveat for my comments: I'm talking about situations that might be bad and are discouraging, not situations of literal poverty or deprivation. You mentioned
so you're not talking abject poverty.

I mean there isn't much to do because anything I used to enjoy has been taken over and turned into something horrid.
If you love something, the invasion/ ruin of the community aspects of it shouldn't change your internal enjoyment of the activity in itself. If you love something, you can do it regardless. And if what you love is dependent on other people, or a type of other people, then maybe you don't truly love it.

That's true. The question is that there's the cost of living and I want to help my family as well. I usually try to do something, to help, but getting a job will be the easiest way. At least taking care of my own things is helping. Still - it's a good way of pointing out a positive thing. I appreciate that!
You don't have to narrate ("[snip]") your edits here.

Set up to get drinks with a girl on tinder, she took one look at me and immediately noped out. Fucking brutal.

It's not like my pics are old or misleading in the slightest. I don't know what I'm supposed to do aside from give up.
I'm sorry - that sucks. But it happens. Don't Try not to take it as some sort of referendum on your worth. Who knows what she was looking for - maybe she actually wanted an awful person, and you weren't that!

I sometimes think of going back to the same place to see if anyone's messaged me, but I'm too terrified.
I get it, but let it go - either go back and face the possible lack of outreach, or scratch it out of your brain. Put your own self above those of other folks, especially those who don't value you.

I shared my most intimate moments with these people, tried to be there for everything, spent a good deal of time talking to them. Some of them helped me at my lowest points.
Take the good from the experience and let the rest go. It was an intimacy for a time, and if it was good, then appreciate that for what it was - and/or use the experience as a lesson in boundaries and learning the limitations of virtual intimacy. Just don't carry the hurt forward with you. The lessons, yes, but not the hurt. Maybe they are shallow, shit people...or they are incapable of connection, or maybe you just reached the end of the road with them. It's all good. People come and go. I'm not saying no one matters, but life is fluid, and maybe you outgrew each other, even if you didn't realize it.
 
So many people are in this exact same situation and there is no answer, no way to get out, no way to find meaning in life. We don't even have a group or an outlet for our frustrations. Our governments and media ignore us and sweep the causes under the rug. Some shitty crowd like Vice will talk about Japanese men shutting themselves in their rooms but they will never talk about what is going on with us in the west. Sorry for the ramblings but TL;DR there is no answer to this trap and it's only going to get worse as the walls close in further.
I'll say I agree with a lot of what Dorothy said.
Maybe I'm different, but part of me really can't bare to give a shit about the world politics all of the time. The problem is we're comparing our state of the world to our parents and grandparents, who literally lived through one of the greatest economic eras of all time. You're going to feel crushed in comparison.
This is going to sound really cheesy, but I had a great change happen to me almost exactly a year ago when I watched of all things Stranger Than Fiction. I know there's a million "yolo" movies out there with the same themes of tired, distraught people learning to live a vibrant life. But for some reason this one stuck with me way more than any of the others. I think it was the fact that the film deals with a character who knows he's going to die relatively soon, through no other reason than he's written to. That resonated with me as a guy who felt like he was going to die by his own hand any day.
So I decided at that moment that if I was going to die by my own hand, I'd give myself a time table. So I set out to live the following year doing as many things as I'd wanted to do in my life that I could do within my range. And if I was still miserable a year later, I'd just call it a day.
Well, I'm obviously still here. Still miserable, too. But I did enough things in that span of time that I thought my life was a little more valuable than preceeding it. I did with with not a lot of money by most people's standards.

TL;DR What I'm saying is you need to get all the outside shit out of your mind and proactively do things that can make your own life a little better. Forget the big house and the culture wars and all the extra shit. Pay the mortgage, obviously. But don't think you need to measure up to your parents or "be someone".
Go to a town or city you've wanted to see when you have the time. Enjoy film/music you haven't before, let the cool wind hit your face driving down the road. Do things you enjoy. Go hiking.
If you're waiting for the world to reflectively work the way you want it to before you enjoy yourself, you're going to have a miserable time.
You're not the only person like this. I know plenty of people in the leftwing side of things, who have way more opportunities then some, who say they can't enjoy their life for a million reasons, and it all goes to larger things outside of their control. They're all bitter and miserable people. Don't be them.
I understand the mortgage is a pain, but I think you can find some small things to appreciate.
I am sorry if you're in Canada, though. Godspeed.

What you are feeling is understandable. We all want to be wanted be wanted by other people, but sometimes others may just want us for their own benefit rather than us as people. The best thing to do is just be vigilant and look out for yourself first and also forgive yourself for any lost time, emotion or oppurtunities that you wasted on fake "friendships" whether they be online or IRL. The next thing to do is to move on and try to find IRL connections. Like you said, these people aren't your friends and don't miss you, so there's no harm in forgetting them and the good times you had and living in the present moment with people that know you and love you. At least, that need connection is satisfied rather than wasting it over fake connections and parasocial ones.
Take the good from the experience and let the rest go. It was an intimacy for a time, and if it was good, then appreciate that for what it was - and/or use the experience as a lesson in boundaries and learning the limitations of virtual intimacy. Just don't carry the hurt forward with you. The lessons, yes, but not the hurt. Maybe they are shallow, shit people...or they are incapable of connection, or maybe you just reached the end of the road with them. It's all good. People come and go. I'm not saying no one matters, but life is fluid, and maybe you outgrew each other, even if you didn't realize it.
I get it. I guess the real conundrum for me is the fact they weren't all this vile hive of scum and villainy. They weren't completely fake. There was a woman there that legitimately in a number of ways was really supportive of me.
That's what makes the fact that it all seemed to evaporate so fast fuck with me. I really don't think I was in the wrong so I can't internalize it. But I also can't say "Fuck those haters, I was just too cool for the room!1!"
I wish I could just wipe it away. Just forget it all or compartmentalize it and move on. But I just feel this huge absence. Every morning I wake up and it just hits me "Oh, this is the life I'm in now. That happened."
I just can't understand people sometimes. I'm not saying I'm borderline or anything, but I can't understand how people can just cut people out. It's something I can barely do even with toxic people. So the idea of people of moving on after knowingly having shared decent memories and ties with someone seems so alien to me.
It's a rough one, you know?
You almost need people to care about you before you can even like yourself.
But liking yourself first is probably the secret to keeping people around anyways.
But you just can't do that.

People say it's so easy as "Just love yourself. Do things for you." But those people probably don't even have to worry about that sort of situation. It's really easy to say that sort of thing when they have a positive feedback loop going in the first place. Some people just have no idea the kind of state someone gets to when they just would like to mean enough to a single person. I don't think it's even human to just be happy with yourself, or enjoy solitude.

I still enjoy some of the memories, the new music I was exposed to, the memes and joking and camaraderie at times. But it's stained by this bleak knowledge. I can't even say I find the memories worth it anymore, because they're loomed over by the fact of how easily it went away and how little it all meant. It's not even bittersweet. It's just bitter anymore.

It worked out in the end. I have at least some people in my life now, but it just stays at this nagging feeling.
 
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