How can trans ideology be stopped?

[Lemmingwiser]

I always hear this but how much irreccovorable research could there have been at that point really? On surgery and troons in the 1940s? Normal surgery research wasn't lost, and troons are troons.

It's not really about the technological research, it's more laying the foundation for the ideology through influence, which includes doctored research.

Yes, they were trying to do womb transplant (killing at least one danish man) back before the nazi's burned their clinic. Take John Money. The facts of the case speak strongly against him and what he's done. But for decades his research was cited as an example of how raising reimer as a girl was an astounding success. John Money's falsified research is extensively cited. But this happened in the 60s/70s. So that's how the ideology was set back 30 years or so.

Without the sexual institute being burned, Hirschfeld would have been one of the pioneers that laid the groundwork.

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The fundamental problem isn't whether we know how to attach say a human ear to the back of a mouse. The fundamental problem is that there's an ideology being promoted that there are men/women that would benefit from being physically transformed from one to the other. To make that common, you have to convince the public that people benefit from this. To convince the public, you have to convince the thought leaders that people benefit from this. To convince the thought leaders of something that goes completely against common sense and current scientific understanding, you have to convince the youthful intelligentsia that people benefit from this. Because they will be tomorrow's thought leaders. And since these are not quite as gullible as most people would think, you need a backlog of studies that prove that people benefit from this, which is why this process takes decades.

 

[Moths]

Avin' a big laff and make those ladyboys seethe

Removing them from power structures and reversing the damage done to law? Normies need more of a cultural shift to oppose these feels over freedom mentality laws and attitudes

 

[Lemmingwiser]

Just to add to my previous post because I can't edit it anymore:

After the process has taken place, the day we are living in, common sense and current scientific understanding are that people benefit from having their sex physically transformed. And it would take about the same type of decades of effort to uproot it. There's the advantage that truth naturally has some wind in its sails of course. Though the various powerful interests that benefit from the ruse give the falsehood a similar type of wind the sails to keep things as they are (or move them further along).

So can it be stopped? Nothing is ever stopped. Can it be made irrelevant? Yes, but it would take a long time, lot of effort and things aren't currently looking good for it to be made irrelevant.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

It will be stopped when enough people become victims of it and become adults. Most people today are living in denial and people don’t usually think about how things can affect their future until they are in their late 20s.

 

[Stan]

Political issues, like hemlines, have a tendency to oscillate over the decades. Look at feminism; You swing liberal during the sexual revolution of the late 60s and 70s; and then in the 80s you get a backlash of proto-honey badgers like Phyllis Schlafly who made a career out of advocating women stop having careers and get back to being married SAHMs. (Nevermind Schlafly’s personal hypocrisy.) Then we go back to the 90s and women tried to “have it all” and in the 00’s suddenly twee cottagecore and tradwifing became common as the economy once again tanked. Post Trump and post Dobbs I have no idea where we are; too soon to tell.

I think that there’s two issues that are going to limit the progress of trans rights to do weird things. One is that liberal democrats are quietly getting fed up with this bullshit; female athletes are not OK with former men taking their spots on the podium in elite sports and parents are pissed off that their high school girls are expected to compete with boys. Amongst themselves liberals are getting annoyed that 1% of their voting block is hogging the platform when there are other issues that will win more votes than whatever fool thing trannies think they need Medicare to pay for.

The other is that anti-trans rhetoric is crack to the right, especially since it became no longer cool to dunk on gay people or try to limit gay marriage. Once the gay issue became a nonstarter the troon issue proved a potent substitute; youth transition is as fiery a political football as abortion (which now has kinda stalled out cause the conservatives have gotten much of what they wanted.)

The only real way is with violence. Trannies should literally fear physical harm for showing themselves in public. - Notice that the Arab countries do not have the problem of trannies wandering around in front of children.

I await my accusations of glow posting, but I'm not wrong, niggers...

No. Don’t interrupt your adversaries when they’re making a mistake. Violence against trannies just makes them martyrs and prolongs their advantage.

I still don't get why women get this magical pussy pass. Fuck them for taking men's spaces, men just found a way to get into theirs and I want to see them do damage until it crumbles to dust over the salty tears of femenisim. . Either we are all equal and can belong anywhere or we are not equal and should be in our natural roles in life and not this women's empowerment shit.
Also, fuck troons.

The fuck does any of this have to do with anything, boomer? You sound like a Chat GPT imitation of a Paul Elam rant.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Violence against trannies just makes them martyrs and prolongs their advantage

Only if the violence is not carried out to its conclusion. - If they're all dead, there's no more problem.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Ya know how in Australia they put pictures of oral cancer and rotting flesh and shit on cigarette packs? All we gotta do is mandate that any doctor that practices "gender affirming" care needs to put up at least five 24x36" prints of any picture from the SRS thread in their waiting room.

 

[Betonhaus]

Only if the violence is not carried out to its conclusion. - If they're all dead, there's no more problem.

adults' words become children's actions. If we keep going around wishing death on people we don't like eventually someone will take it upon themselves to carry out those wishes. I'd rather just lock them up in a mad house.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

eventually someone will take it upon themselves to carry out those wishes

If only.

 

[JellyMaggot]

Only if the violence is not carried out to its conclusion. - If they're all dead, there's no more problem.

you ever tried to eliminate an invasive species? Even with everyone on board that's wishful thinking. How have irrational movements been stamped out in the past?

 

[Betonhaus]

If only.

That's not a good thing. History is full of times where people called for lynchings and the deaths of others only to later on realize that it was the...

hm.

bad example.

 

[Stan]

Only if the violence is not carried out to its conclusion. - If they're all dead, there's no more problem.

You can’t kill an idea, Hitler Jr.

ETA to elaborate: there will always be people who de novo want to become trannies (they aren’t exactly known for sexual reproduction.) why do you feel the need to physically harm people who are already making fools of themselves?

If you get what you want, you end up looking like the British military did during Ghandi’s Salt March. Don’t bother.

 

[MonkeyBaby]

One striking thing about troon "culture" (if it even exists) is that it's utterly charmless.

"Persecuted minorities" ingratiate themselves by contributing to the culture.

Gay culture includes Oscar Wilde, John Waters, and 80s synth-pop. Blacks have made a bunch of music that people all over the world love. Jews have produced shit-tons of comedians. (Just offering basic examples here).

What have troons given us? A bunch of the ugliest people you've ever seen and self-important tweets is all I got. There's "The Matrix", I guess. There's also some comedy in how they're destroying women's sports, but it's unintentional.

Maybe that will eventually lead to the demise of "trans ideology". They contribute nothing and almost no one actually likes them.

 

[Fartificial Insmelligence]

One striking thing about troon "culture" (if it even exists) is that it's utterly charmless.

"Persecuted minorities" ingratiate themselves by contributing to the culture.

Gay culture includes Oscar Wilde, John Waters, and 80s synth-pop. Blacks have made a bunch of music that people all over the world love. Jews have produced shit-tons of comedians. (Just offering basic examples here).

What have troons given us? A bunch of the ugliest people you've ever seen and self-important tweets is all I got. There's "The Matrix", I guess. There's also some comedy in how they're destroying women's sports, but it's unintentional.

Maybe that will eventually lead to the demise of "trans ideology". They contribute nothing and almost no one actually likes them.

Even in your example of The Matrix, I believe the first one released pre-troonout, and the sequels (which were objectively much worse) were released post. The only contribution trannies have made to pop culture is making us wonder if the strong-chinned woman on screen used to have a cock and balls...

 

[Male Idiot]

Where the lazy spic idea comes from? I don't know maybe reality.