How can trans ideology be stopped?

[JellyMaggot]

I do genuinely believe that the majority of TRAs are advocating for the cause because they believe it to be right, and they see most opposition from the other side as hostile, mean-spirited bigotry. Thats how I used to see it, but I've since changed as I've opened myself up to learning new information. Even though that perceived hostility pushed me away at first, I gradually shifted my views.

Spoiler: sperging abt how my views changed

From what I can tell based on my search history, Barnaby Dixon's video about transgender kids was the main turning point for me. Before that, I had made the connection between body integrity dysmorphia and realized it was a serious mental illness rather than something to unconditionally affirm. And before that, I had peeked into the r/lgballt subreddit and saw how many kids were taking this gender discovery stuff completely seriously, and to ridiculous extremes. The hostility about the Harry Potter game + me joining kiwi farms were what finally got me to throw away my bias more or less completely, and ive just continued learning from there.

With my experience, I think that setting a good example just by being nice and going into discussions with trans people with an expressed intent to do good would help more people step back and realize that putting hormones into angsty teens is, in fact, the wrong thing to do. What do you think?

 

[Otoya Yamaguchi]

you ever read that part in the bible where it talks about jesus on a white horse and his robes are soaked in blood? thats how

 

[The Backwards Man]

Bang bang, thud.

 

[Not A Bunny]

The only thing that's truly going to make it stop is watching what happens after the damage is done.

After a few more lives have been ruined because kids got it into their heads that more drugs and more cosmetic surgery is the solution to their ills and we get a few more suicides and a few more school shootings and a few more horror stories from detransitioners, maybe people will start thinking this wasn't a good idea after all.

I don't want that. I would prefer it if people could think more than one step ahead and consider the "what ifs" that could happen if you decide to actively traumatize people with constant streams of drugs and body modification.

How people live with themselves when they assert that "gender affirming" (retch) care is the only answer to confused youth...beats me.

 

[Moja Zemlja]

Trans ideology will only ever truly be stopped when the majority of the public is opposed to it, that will only happen when they're confronted with the reality of what it entails. Its going to get much, much worse before it gets better.

 

[Hepativore]

It also depends on what country you are referring to...the UK is slowly starting to fight back against troon idiocy, but the US media and cultural zeitgeist is churning out pink pills nonstop. Many Asian countries like Japan still seem to frown on medically-transitioning and China is a hard NO on the matter, so hopefully this does not change.

The thing is, I am not sure what the actual opinion of "normies" are on this matter, as you either hear about the troon propaganda of the media or the based opinions of fellow Kiwis. Does the average person really buy into all of the tranny bullshit, or do they just not have much of an opinion on it and take the path of least resistance?

While I doubt it can be eradicated entirely, I do at least hope troons can go back to being seen as a small group of weirdos/fringe subculture and not taken seriously by most people at large.

 

[quackrock]

Most people only care about a crime when there's a victim. As this movement products more victims more people will care. That's another reason detransitioners scare TRAs. The medical horror stories, fucked-up voices and physical scars on their bodies are ghastly to even the most tuned-out normie.

 

[HarveyMCR]

It’s pretty easy to tell how it’s going to happen.

They castrate kids. Children. Primarily for a sick sexual fetish.

These kids are going to grow up and they’re going to realize that mommy made them cut off their dick for social justice signaling, or that the state prevented them from developing into a woman because they felt anxious when they were 13 and said they felt like a boy (just like in her cool manga).

When these kids grow up and realize that they are freak twists of nature who were castrated for their teenage angst, they are going to be furious. They are going to seek vengeance. Everyone has problems. Everyone wants to blame other people for their problems. Trans-children are essentially the only group of people who can truly blame others for causing their problems in life.

It’ll start off small. A key lawsuit here, a speech at Berkeley that doesn’t get boo’ed into submission there, but they will develop into an anti-trans coalition. TERFs and Evangelicals will not even hold a candle to the sheer rage and public support that these castrati will have.

Right now, the reason why normies have such a fervor to allow childhood puberty blocker is because they think it will protect children and prevent suicides. It is human nature to want to protect children. It is why pedophiles are so ostracized even compared to other monsters like mass murderers. Humans are essentially hard wired to want to protect the next generation.

Eventually a collective flip will switch in people’s brains and that will make them realize “oh, this actually is just a sick fetish”, then trannies will begin being treated like pedophiles. Victims of alphabet weirdos will finally be able to speak freely, there will be lectures held by the kids who had their dicks cut off about how unbridled social justice is wrong, and it will become culturally taboo to say anything trans-positive.

Or we live in a fucking clown world and nothing will ever change. I don’t fucking know. Either way, I am of the firm belief that the firmest anti-trans a advocates of tomorrow are 1) currently still in school and 2) are currently trans

 

[Linako 2.0]

Once all the kids who were tricked into doing this shit by their moms grow up and we see a gay reboot of the 70's murdermania.
The real question is how hard will TPTB try t ocover it up and deny it, then try to scrub it from history and pretend nothing happened?

 

[AgendaPoster]

There's no such thing as "trans ideology", there is only social liberalism and progressivism.
You cannot just put the brakes on one tiny part of it that you happen to disagree with, the whole system is rotten and flawed, and leads to greater and greater amounts of individualism and personal autonomy above all else.
The only way to deal with social liberalism is reaction.

 

[BBJ_4_Ever]

Part of the problem will be getting past the massive doses of copium the kids have been fed along with the mind stunting puberty blockers. Even now, in the SRS thread, there are posts of regret filled persons wanting phalloplasty because they miss their penises. The answer from their supportive online community is "get over it", "accept it," " you can't go back." and "Don't post anything that can be used against us" No "here's a good lawyer to sue because you weren't ready," it's protect the trans community at all costs.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Society has to come right for it to stop, even if trans ideology shifted in name there would be some similar destructive ideology that arose to prey upon that same class of individual.

On a personal level I'm confident it isn't that difficult to treat a person slipping into trans ideology, but that's exactly it, there's no way to personally address it.

These are individuals who are lost and left to the wolves, and without any role they feel comfortable with or any engagement from confident, satisfied people with strong principles, they glom onto an ideology that seeks to erase their personhood.

When these kids grow up and realize that they are freak twists of nature who were castrated for their teenage angst, they are going to be furious. They are going to seek vengeance. Everyone has problems. Everyone wants to blame other people for their problems. Trans-children are essentially the only group of people who can truly blame others for causing their problems in life.

Except you look at your Jazz Jennings and I'd say even Keffals and see that probably isn't how it'll play out.

They aren't going to have the will to get angry about it. They're going to be absolutely hopeless, defeated, sick, and they're going to eat and get high and try to kill off the pain until they die.

 

[timewave0]

Oh it won’t take much. Just a complete overhaul of education, entertainment, pop culture generally, the internet, parenting, medicine, the news, and a lot more.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

Truly terrible ideas eventually buckle under their own ineptitude. Social justice has the power of banks and fiat currency to give it unnatural longevity, but it'll break, although it won't likely be in our lifetimes.

 

[vomitusdeux]

I just describe surgery in grotesque detail every chance it comes up to disgust people away from doing it.

 

[Feefee81093]

I think it'll burn out in time. The fall of civilization will assist with limited medical resources.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

To be honest I am sensing the negativity and hostility towards trans people rising lately anyway. Dunno why people are acting like things are hopeless.
Don't see quite as much praise for them like before either, sure there is still some ridiculous "Trans Rights are Human Rights" garbage but it's not as common as it once was.

 

[Lemmingwiser]

The biggest setback that trans ideology experienced was when nazi's burned the wilhelm reich institute of sexual research. It set back trans movement by decades.

Once all the kids who were tricked into doing this shit by their moms grow up and we see a gay reboot of the 70's murdermania.
The real question is how hard will TPTB try t ocover it up and deny it, then try to scrub it from history and pretend nothing happened?

I don't think so at all. If you watch the recent triggernometry video, there's an anarchist who did intakes for trans people and saw over time that the promises do not line up with the results.

And they then still believe that the root of the current transmania is homophobia.

 

[Betonhaus]

There's no such thing as "trans ideology", there is only social liberalism and progressivism.
You cannot just put the brakes on one tiny part of it that you happen to disagree with, the whole system is rotten and flawed, and leads to greater and greater amounts of individualism and personal autonomy above all else.
The only way to deal with social liberalism is reaction.

Progressivism has an annoying habit of very painfully learning the lesson why things were done the way they were.

I think the best we can do is wait it out. The past few years had so many people get their diddly bits butchered, and it will take a few years for the ramifications for that to sink in. We can try our hardest to save as many children as we can, but the trans agenda won't be slowed down until the damaged grow older and process the ramifications of what has been done to them.

 

[gamerweeb1]

I think it is only a matter of time.

I was never a strong supporter of trans people, I never thought transwomen were actually women. However, I used to have a "not my business" approach.

The last 3 years have woken me up to the truth, along with a ton of others: men dominating women's sports, men showing their dicks in women's bathrooms, male rapists raping female prisoners, constant introduction of new pronouns we MUST accept or else, people being called "transphobic Nazis" for playing a fucking Harry Potter game.

I truly believe that within the next 10 years, there will be an "enough is enough" moment where the trans movement will face massive, sustained backlash that will force them to back down.