How did boomers become this way? - Buy whatever you see on TV and spend all your money before you die

The biggest struggle in Gen X was "not selling out, maaaaan". Tells you all you really need to know.
That was something influencers (mostly in the music industry) and the media constantly shoved on us. Slackers were glorified and ambition was demonized. I don't know why. I sort of think it was designed to keep us down.

EDIT: See Reality Bites for a good example of this.
 
but now you see 80 and 90 year olds buying luxury cars, going on many vacations, and trying to find the most expensive nursing home money can buy.
@PaleTay (can't quote you for some reason--good job Null, you fucking retard)

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention is the rise of the HELOC. Understandable, considering how few people under the age of 50 would ever deal with one.

A HELOC is also known as a "reverse mortgage", which came to popularity in the early 2000s. It allows you to use the equity in your home to take money out to spend on other shit. To give you some idea, HELOCs topped $9.1 Trillion in Q2 2021, with homeowners drawing a trillion dollars of that in the past year alone. By way of comparison, primary (regular) mortgages are worth a total of $10.1 Trillion, which means there are almost as many people (on a dollar-value basis) trying to take money out of their homes as there are trying to pay off their homes. This is a huge problem, but we'll get to that.

Previously, this wasn't really an option--you'd own your home, get your pension, and live off your savings--what you've been describing as "the traditional" retirement. But because of immigration and low interest rates, house prices have risen exponentially:
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Keep in mind those are just the median prices--the average boomer probably bought a quarter million dollar house that is now worth $1.2M. What that means is that there's a whole lot of money you can take out of it, and every time they want more, they can refinance because home prices literally never go down anymore. That's where all the money is coming from.

One problem is that this is incredibly fragile: if home prices go down or interest rates go up, the bank will shrink their LOC, people will default, the banks will take their houses, and we'll get 2008 all over again. The other problem is that boomers plan on dying with this debt and their kids can't afford to pay it off. They'll inherit the remaining equity in their homes, but will that be enough for them to buy their own homes, or will they be pay off their mortgages until they're 70 years old? What will happen to the real estate market once a significant number of boomers die and those houses need to be sold? Will it crash the real estate market and result in the previously-mentioned 2008 scenario? Will they keep the game of musical chairs going so that the rise in home value will cover the HELOC risk? Will immigration from wealthy Indians and Chinese be able to stave it off?

The risk is ridiculous and the scary part is that absolutely no one is talking about it.
 

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Oh boomers, an old classic, i know that it's a lot to unravel, but you need to know this.

Boomers generally are the most exemplary case of mass media production and social controls on the history of human society, even worse than some empires.

Boomers started like some people said in this thread, a generation rounded through the punishments of WW2, a generation with everything wrapped on a white blanket, this isn't wrong on the first place but it explain the next points.

In general boomers for this reason started life with a lot of privileges, cars, money, an undeserving mix of unadulterated commercialized culture which didn't mean anything and had a lot of problems which generated today globohomo. This culture wouldn't last forever because it was caused by a situation which happened only because they didn't had something to fix (women didn't worked on this time period, something which was unthinkable on the 19th century and was just restricted to the higher class). This could be seen on cases like Detroit or the low life cities which were the first ones to see the cultural decrease, this included with the retarded lowlife interests of most of them were a real declaration.


This was heard and understood by some smart boomers, which tried to solve this by going against globalized corporatist businesses and remaking american culture to be more receptive to old time values of community, recognizing ways to make more creative people, encouraging less commercial abusive behaviors, recognizing local businesses and while at the same time understanding the liberties of others and recognizing the different ways people were controlled on older time periods.

All of this caused four important pillars of them, The sexual revolution, dodging the draft, civil rights and a ecologist lifestyle where people lived independently with family or community members (which where multiple families), ambition on these places was encouraged on real limits and with the resources to be, this is shown on the music and interests of them.

The sexual revolution, which understood sexuality as something to not be ashamed off, with an important value to society and the respect of the sexual interest of others was an understanding to relations because it showed sex as a mutual understanding, one where both partners loved each other, this discourages multiple sex partners by definition, this is because polyamory it's unequal on the basic ground of having favoritism, while at the same time being a way to hurt parts of a relation, something which was caused by the act of not understanding the suffering and abuse these types of relationships give to nearly all partners and because it underestimates the importance of sex (being the ultimate connection of a relation, the part where both parts bond and understand each other). These points make sex an act of pair bonding between a successful relationship, accepts different ways of pleasure like oral sex and different types of sexuality, understands past sexual history on a manner that doesn't hurt the actual relationships (Discourages cucks), and makes people responsible of their sexual relations ( Not having sex with anyone you meet and not having sex just because of the act of reproducing or urge,). These aspects were a real revolution on the way sexuality was seen, in the past it was just a reproductive mindset and misunderstood the bonding aspects which unites a relationship to a greater extent, even more when harems and all the variations of it where more reflexive to a less developed culture, this is the reason most consent laws increased on this time period, marriage was more of a personal choice, but wasn't frown upon, this is seen on the way beefheart married his wife, degeneracy was discouraged by being respectful to the relationship (most extreme fetishes are normally forced by one part of the relation, specific kinks are different than full blown irresponsibility), this makes taking care of kids an aspect of real care, because it generates real responsibility and makes having kids a deliberate choice (this is the reason you shouldn't accept single motherhood on a real sexual revolution, having equal care of the kids was the real answer).

Dodging the draft was an understanding of Vietnam, Vietnam was an scapegoat to a real interest of the globohomo, this being the control of international markets and the capacity of having destroyed areas where they can get cheap labor, socialism wasn't the main point, even more when vietnam wouldn't have changed the destiny of those lands. Obviously these boomers recognized this and started dodging the draft, this wasn't because of grief but they could with this destroy the methods of acquiring unequal competition, thus the destruction of local businesses and a loyal life (hurting the US and all other countries on the process), this gets increased by being a method to destroy people and families outside and inside of the US on a personal level.

The ecologist lifestyle was made to decrease the price of living, creating a better area to live, encouraging creative work and making technology evolve on a natural way, this is the reasons they used the electric guitar, nuclear wasn't seen as wrong and communities where people lived each other through commerce or community work were encouraged, this is the reason mickey was mocked on cartoons related to vietnam and weed was accepted, it was a think nature gave and it's a thing that generates better resources, has a lot of uses and if used responsibly, can be a good thing.

Civil rights were made to accept others on real ways, letting people have real interests and to let things like free speech be more important, these civil rights were pretty much everyone having equal rights, have free speech on all manners, defending areas where people couldn't consent and letting people have different interest by their own interest outside of people or companies which try to force them on specific blankets, generally this wasn't something which tried to take masculine initiative, most of the time it was encouraged to men and women to have specific masculine traits like individuality, general stubbornness and confrontation, they weren't peaceful all the time, they just had a live and let live situation, similar to the NAP, this by definition crumbles most points pertaining good acts as a racial aspect, the reason of this is because it doesn't give unequal benefits and doesn't justify crime or social problems which need fixing and aren't impossible to solve, even more when it's caused by a lack of this impartiality.

If you want a resume, it was green libertarianism.

All of these were broken one by one on the most painful ways imaginable.

Boomers after seeing these communities (which they hated at first because they were spoiled faggots) wanted to fit in and be the cool dudes (which they couldn't be), they forced their entrance on these communities by force and started to control everything.

The sexual revolution was made mush by encouraging polyamory and destroying the basic principles of it, by making the sexual act a coin, the sexual act becomes a meaningless aspect which can be used to attack anyone and destroy people, this was made by throwing all the tenets of it and forcing these aspects as the sexual revolution, The pill and other aspects made have kids be more planned (they didn't cause anything, at worst they are tools where people can be more responsible, a bad mindset it's needed to use them incorrectly), but the act of destroying this sexual revolution was the thing that sealed the deal to most of the boomer demographic, which was retarded, clueless and really hypocritical by being lied by TV and media in general destroyed the real sexual revolution in exchange of pity, this with the dissent views by nearly everything made them double down on it.

Dodging was the less damaged by being the first one, it was a more general push force and even the silent generation was with it.

The ecologist lifestyle was broken by useless wretches which were the norm, remember that boomers were spoiled and tried to find ways to not do anything, this was done by throwing in the trash all the work ethic which was a part of freak lives and didn't do anything, even more when they ironically wasted money and followed trends which were corrupted to be useless.

Civil rights became a joke after this time period, this was caused by people which wanted benefits and the development of markets to sell to people with no meaning on their interests, this one took the longest by taking more than 25 years and a lot of social destruction and false tolerance.

Most of the ills where caused by mass media, institutes and much more which warped the freak definition to not mean anything, this is the reason nearly no one knows the word freak on the first place.

Boomers did this by being people which were stopped and controlled by others and because of being spoiled.

there's an album which showed this, it's called We're Only In It For The Money


Boomers are an example of bad child rearing. even having no parents was better than being a boomer on that time period.

I think there were organic, no pun intended, oldfag hippies who were a natural outgrowth of something along the lines of the California nature boy movement, which can tangentialy trace it's roots back to the naturemensch and lebensreform schools of thought in Europe years earlier. These oldfag hippies were anarcho-libertarian environmentalists that thought local to such an extent, they turned their backs on government and consoomer culture completely. Think, Uncle Ted pilled, but without the mail bombs. "The man" would not care for these sorts as they'd rather live modestly in a DIY fashion and had no interest in supporting foriegn ventures like the Korean or Vietnam war. What were the fruits born of those wars, expanding international trading blocs that turned into current year globohomo? It was that eras version of die for israel, but more die for wall street. They had as little interest in supporting international communism as they would have in supporting wall street style capitalism. They occuppied an under-represented and unspoken third posistion that basically kept to the spirit of old school American frontiersmen, but, yeah, they also liked to smoke weed and play around with psychadelic drugs. Anyway, those oldfag hippies didn't go unnoticed by "The Man". So cultural engineers created a degenerate fake hippie persona and marketed it back to the youth as music and lifestyle and used it as a limitted hangout control mechanism. How did a phrase like, "tune in, turn on, and drop out" turn into vote for whatever bullshit the Democratic party is selling this electoral cycle? That's ultimately what things like cointelpro and mkultra were about. How those glowies treating you in current year? "The man", the glow in the dark niggers, same thing, different era.

 
The biggest struggle in Gen X was "not selling out, maaaaan". Tells you all you really need to know.
Thats the one thing I respect about genX, meanwhile their zoomer spawn did a 180° and became absolute brand whores.
@PaleTay (can't quote you for some reason--good job Null, you fucking retard)

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention is the rise of the HELOC. Understandable, considering how few people under the age of 50 would ever deal with one.

A HELOC is also known as a "reverse mortgage", which came to popularity in the early 2000s. It allows you to use the equity in your home to take money out to spend on other shit. To give you some idea, HELOCs topped $9.1 Trillion in Q2 2021, with homeowners drawing a trillion dollars of that in the past year alone. By way of comparison, primary (regular) mortgages are worth a total of $10.1 Trillion, which means there are almost as many people (on a dollar-value basis) trying to take money out of their homes as there are trying to pay off their homes. This is a huge problem, but we'll get to that.

Previously, this wasn't really an option--you'd own your home, get your pension, and live off your savings--what you've been describing as "the traditional" retirement. But because of immigration and low interest rates, house prices have risen exponentially:
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Keep in mind those are just the median prices--the average boomer probably bought a quarter million dollar house that is now worth $1.2M. What that means is that there's a whole lot of money you can take out of it, and every time they want more, they can refinance because home prices literally never go down anymore. That's where all the money is coming from.

One problem is that this is incredibly fragile: if home prices go down or interest rates go up, the bank will shrink their LOC, people will default, the banks will take their houses, and we'll get 2008 all over again. The other problem is that boomers plan on dying with this debt and their kids can't afford to pay it off. They'll inherit the remaining equity in their homes, but will that be enough for them to buy their own homes, or will they be pay off their mortgages until they're 70 years old? What will happen to the real estate market once a significant number of boomers die and those houses need to be sold? Will it crash the real estate market and result in the previously-mentioned 2008 scenario? Will they keep the game of musical chairs going so that the rise in home value will cover the HELOC risk? Will immigration from wealthy Indians and Chinese be able to stave it off?

The risk is ridiculous and the scary part is that absolutely no one is talking about it.
No rich asians will buy those overpriced suburb mcmansions, they aren't even that interested in those new skyscrapers in Manhattan as many of those sit half unsold. Rich people flock to safe countries. We used to be a safe country but as we slowly but surely descend into a bunch of first world enclaves within a third world country those rich foreigners will go elsewhere.

Are there rich people in Rio? In Buenos Aires? Sure but they are the rich natives of those countries, not foreigners moving there because its not a nice place to be. Example: facebook's brazilian cofounder was sent to the US by his parents to avoid a kidnapping that as most such incidents in that country would end with his corpse found bound and charred near the open sewers of some favela even if the ransom was paid in full.

Expect our rich to start moving abroad as the bullshit they created spirals out of control.
 
Thats the one thing I respect about genX, meanwhile their zoomer spawn did a 180° and became absolute brand whores.

No rich asians will buy those overpriced suburb mcmansions, they aren't even that interested in those new skyscrapers in Manhattan as many of those sit half unsold. Rich people flock to safe countries. We used to be a safe country but as we slowly but surely descend into a bunch of first world enclaves within a third world country those rich foreigners will go elsewhere.

Are there rich people in Rio? In Buenos Aires? Sure but they are the rich natives of those countries, not foreigners moving there because its not a nice place to be. Example: facebook's brazilian cofounder was sent to the US by his parents to avoid a kidnapping that as most such incidents in that country would end with his corpse found bound and charred near the open sewers of some favela even if the ransom was paid in full.

Expect our rich to start moving abroad as the bullshit they created spirals out of control.
Wait wtf, what is the point of the kidnapping then if they already kill their hostages anyway.
 
To all those thinking that things can get turned around and improved once the Boomers in positions of power die off: don't hold your breath. They've got a trump card in their pocket



They will live through several more generations even if it means draining the younger generations of literal blood or surgically grafting a child onto their fat bellies and using them as a living dialysis machine.

Never underestimate the "Me" generation.
 
Expect our rich to start moving abroad as the bullshit they created spirals out of control.
Where is it that you think they're going to go? Where is this mythical "abroad", where the grass is greener, you can't get arrested for saying boys in skirts playing sports with your daughters is retarded, and refugees aren't going to rape your wife on the way home from the grocery store?

I guess there's Israel for the (((rich))), but the rest of us have nowhere to go no matter how much money we have, unless we go full John McAfee (and look how that turned out for him). That's probably why the people causing this made sure they had their own ethnic homeland secured (while taking considerable Lebensraum from the Palestinians over the years--I'd say it was ironic, but they've never been concerned with accusations by hypocrisy before because they own the media anyway) before they made sure that no place was livable for the rest of us.
No rich asians will buy those overpriced suburb mcmansions, they aren't even that interested in those new skyscrapers in Manhattan as many of those sit half unsold.
The West is a great store of value for corrupt Chinese, who are at far greater risk of having their assets frozen and being executed for some arbitrary reason in China than they are here. Canada basically makes an entire industry out of laundering Chinese money, which is why a 30 year old condo costs $1.5 million in Vancouver. Manhattan is a bit of a tricky city because they have a long history of fucking over property owners in favor of rent control and insane land use requirements, but I assure you, New York's old money are just waiting for the right opportunity.
 
Where is it that you think they're going to go? Where is this mythical "abroad", where the grass is greener, you can't get arrested for saying boys in skirts playing sports with your daughters is retarded, and refugees aren't going to rape your wife on the way home from the grocery store?

I guess there's Israel for the (((rich))), but the rest of us have nowhere to go no matter how much money we have, unless we go full John McAfee (and look how that turned out for him). That's probably why the people causing this made sure they had their own ethnic homeland secured (while taking considerable Lebensraum from the Palestinians over the years--I'd say it was ironic, but they've never been concerned with accusations by hypocrisy before because they own the media anyway) before they made sure that no place was livable for the rest of us.

The West is a great store of value for corrupt Chinese, who are at far greater risk of having their assets frozen and being executed for some arbitrary reason in China than they are here. Canada basically makes an entire industry out of laundering Chinese money, which is why a 30 year old condo costs $1.5 million in Vancouver. Manhattan is a bit of a tricky city because they have a long history of fucking over property owners in favor of rent control and insane land use requirements, but I assure you, New York's old money are just waiting for the right opportunity.
Bruh you think the superrich are concerned with the cultural differences? Its about not having a guerilla or a warlord or some drug mobster kidnapping your kids or blowing you up with a car bomb which is what happens in Colombia and used to also happen in Brazil and Argentina. Abroad its Japan, Switzerland or dubai or some other country for the superrich. Its the common people like you who are fucked because best thing you can do its go to another place thats less of a shithole than this country will become, and that if you got money for papers else you're gonna be a refugee.

And you seem to forget that real estate prices collapsed in NYC when the place became a warzone during the 70s and 80s, and it didnt change until the 90s when zero tolerance became a thing, which wont happen again. You think it will be any different when most cities become the new detroit? You already got the lefties who turned frisco and LA into shitholes moving out in a complete showcase of hypocrisy, you think they wont do it again? Most of the upper class of Brazil are woke lefties and they still live in enclaves with military guards and leave the country whenever the shit they started gets too real. It's the middle and lower class Brazilians who get fucked.

And israel is fucked in the long run, if you check the local news you'll see theres lot of the globohomo over there too coupled with lack of births of normal working jews while the backward fundie jews like the haredi wont stop pumping out inbreed kids and live off welfare.

You know who are "the jews" of israel? Christians. They are the minority with the most education and the highest average income. The best schools in israel are Christian schools.
 
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Oh boomers, an old classic, i know that it's a lot to unravel, but you need to know this.

Boomers generally are the most exemplary case of mass media production and social controls on the history of human society, even worse than some empires.

Boomers started like some people said in this thread, a generation rounded through the punishments of WW2, a generation with everything wrapped on a white blanket, this isn't wrong on the first place but it explain the next points.

In general boomers for this reason started life with a lot of privileges, cars, money, an undeserving mix of unadulterated commercialized culture which didn't mean anything and had a lot of problems which generated today globohomo. This culture wouldn't last forever because it was caused by a situation which happened only because they didn't had something to fix (women didn't worked on this time period, something which was unthinkable on the 19th century and was just restricted to the higher class). This could be seen on cases like Detroit or the low life cities which were the first ones to see the cultural decrease, this included with the retarded lowlife interests of most of them were a real declaration.




This was heard and understood by some smart boomers, which tried to solve this by going against globalized corporatist businesses and remaking american culture to be more receptive to old time values of community, recognizing ways to make more creative people, encouraging less commercial abusive behaviors, recognizing local businesses and while at the same time understanding the liberties of others and recognizing the different ways people were controlled on older time periods.

All of this caused four important pillars of them, The sexual revolution, dodging the draft, civil rights and a ecologist lifestyle where people lived independently with family or community members (which where multiple families), ambition on these places was encouraged on real limits and with the resources to be, this is shown on the music and interests of them.

The sexual revolution, which understood sexuality as something to not be ashamed off, with an important value to society and the respect of the sexual interest of others was an understanding to relations because it showed sex as a mutual understanding, one where both partners loved each other, this discourages multiple sex partners by definition, this is because polyamory it's unequal on the basic ground of having favoritism, while at the same time being a way to hurt parts of a relation, something which was caused by the act of not understanding the suffering and abuse these types of relationships give to nearly all partners and because it underestimates the importance of sex (being the ultimate connection of a relation, the part where both parts bond and understand each other). These points make sex an act of pair bonding between a successful relationship, accepts different ways of pleasure like oral sex and different types of sexuality, understands past sexual history on a manner that doesn't hurt the actual relationships (Discourages cucks), and makes people responsible of their sexual relations ( Not having sex with anyone you meet and not having sex just because of the act of reproducing or urge,). These aspects were a real revolution on the way sexuality was seen, in the past it was just a reproductive mindset and misunderstood the bonding aspects which unites a relationship to a greater extent, even more when harems and all the variations of it where more reflexive to a less developed culture, this is the reason most consent laws increased on this time period, marriage was more of a personal choice, but wasn't frown upon, this is seen on the way beefheart married his wife, degeneracy was discouraged by being respectful to the relationship (most extreme fetishes are normally forced by one part of the relation, specific kinks are different than full blown irresponsibility), this makes taking care of kids an aspect of real care, because it generates real responsibility and makes having kids a deliberate choice (this is the reason you shouldn't accept single motherhood on a real sexual revolution, having equal care of the kids was the real answer).

Dodging the draft was an understanding of Vietnam, Vietnam was an scapegoat to a real interest of the globohomo, this being the control of international markets and the capacity of having destroyed areas where they can get cheap labor, socialism wasn't the main point, even more when vietnam wouldn't have changed the destiny of those lands. Obviously these boomers recognized this and started dodging the draft, this wasn't because of grief but they could with this destroy the methods of acquiring unequal competition, thus the destruction of local businesses and a loyal life (hurting the US and all other countries on the process), this gets increased by being a method to destroy people and families outside and inside of the US on a personal level.

The ecologist lifestyle was made to decrease the price of living, creating a better area to live, encouraging creative work and making technology evolve on a natural way, this is the reasons they used the electric guitar, nuclear wasn't seen as wrong and communities where people lived each other through commerce or community work were encouraged, this is the reason mickey was mocked on cartoons related to vietnam and weed was accepted, it was a think nature gave and it's a thing that generates better resources, has a lot of uses and if used responsibly, can be a good thing.

Civil rights were made to accept others on real ways, letting people have real interests and to let things like free speech be more important, these civil rights were pretty much everyone having equal rights, have free speech on all manners, defending areas where people couldn't consent and letting people have different interest by their own interest outside of people or companies which try to force them on specific blankets, generally this wasn't something which tried to take masculine initiative, most of the time it was encouraged to men and women to have specific masculine traits like individuality, general stubbornness and confrontation, they weren't peaceful all the time, they just had a live and let live situation, similar to the NAP, this by definition crumbles most points pertaining good acts as a racial aspect, the reason of this is because it doesn't give unequal benefits and doesn't justify crime or social problems which need fixing and aren't impossible to solve, even more when it's caused by a lack of this impartiality.

If you want a resume, it was green libertarianism.

All of these were broken one by one on the most painful ways imaginable.

Boomers after seeing these communities (which they hated at first because they were spoiled faggots) wanted to fit in and be the cool dudes (which they couldn't be), they forced their entrance on these communities by force and started to control everything.

The sexual revolution was made mush by encouraging polyamory and destroying the basic principles of it, by making the sexual act a coin, the sexual act becomes a meaningless aspect which can be used to attack anyone and destroy people, this was made by throwing all the tenets of it and forcing these aspects as the sexual revolution, The pill and other aspects made have kids be more planned (they didn't cause anything, at worst they are tools where people can be more responsible, a bad mindset it's needed to use them incorrectly), but the act of destroying this sexual revolution was the thing that sealed the deal to most of the boomer demographic, which was retarded, clueless and really hypocritical by being lied by TV and media in general destroyed the real sexual revolution in exchange of pity, this with the dissent views by nearly everything made them double down on it.

Dodging was the less damaged by being the first one, it was a more general push force and even the silent generation was with it.

The ecologist lifestyle was broken by useless wretches which were the norm, remember that boomers were spoiled and tried to find ways to not do anything, this was done by throwing in the trash all the work ethic which was a part of freak lives and didn't do anything, even more when they ironically wasted money and followed trends which were corrupted to be useless.

Civil rights became a joke after this time period, this was caused by people which wanted benefits and the development of markets to sell to people with no meaning on their interests, this one took the longest by taking more than 25 years and a lot of social destruction and false tolerance.

Most of the ills where caused by mass media, institutes and much more which warped the freak definition to not mean anything, this is the reason nearly no one knows the word freak on the first place.

Boomers did this by being people which were stopped and controlled by others and because of being spoiled.

there's an album which showed this, it's called We're Only In It For The Money




Boomers are an example of bad child rearing. even having no parents was better than being a boomer on that time period.


I think there were organic, no pun intended, oldfag hippies who were a natural outgrowth of something along the lines of the California nature boy movement, which can tangentialy trace it's roots back to the naturemensch and lebensreform schools of thought in Europe years earlier. These oldfag hippies were anarcho-libertarian environmentalists that thought local to such an extent, they turned their backs on government and consoomer culture completely. Think, Uncle Ted pilled, but without the mail bombs. "The man" would not care for these sorts as they'd rather live modestly in a DIY fashion and had no interest in supporting foriegn ventures like the Korean or Vietnam war. What were the fruits born of those wars, expanding international trading blocs that turned into current year globohomo? It was that eras version of die for israel, but more die for wall street. They had as little interest in supporting international communism as they would have in supporting wall street style capitalism. They occuppied an under-represented and unspoken third posistion that basically kept to the spirit of old school American frontiersmen, but, yeah, they also liked to smoke weed and play around with psychadelic drugs. Anyway, those oldfag hippies didn't go unnoticed by "The Man". So cultural engineers created a degenerate fake hippie persona and marketed it back to the youth as music and lifestyle and used it as a limitted hangout control mechanism. How did a phrase like, "tune in, turn on, and drop out" turn into vote for whatever bullshit the Democratic party is selling this electoral cycle? That's ultimately what things like cointelpro and mkultra were about. How those glowies treating you in current year? "The man", the glow in the dark niggers, same thing, different era.


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The long and short of it I believe is growing up post-WW2 which granted them economic and social prosperity for a number of years. They still try to hold on to those glory days without investing much into the betterment of their country. It's a sense of entitlement similar to millennial blight. They have a grasp in political power, which influences the current sway of establishment.
 
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Lol imagine bitching because Mom and Dad aren’t paying your bills for you all the time. Grow up. Do you people understand how selfish you sound? How much have your parents already done for you?

They had to get where they are without all of your petty modern conveniences. Surely you can manage while they live it up a bit in their old age. They deserve that at least.

Boomers are great. It’s entitled children like you who are are making things miserable for yourselves and “ruining this country”.
 
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there's a tendency amongst the boomers whom i know of being incredibly wasteful, especially with the things to which they consider themselves entitled. turning the faucet on and letting it run while doing dishes or brushing your teeth, gen x will do that. but i watch my boomer friend turn the cold water on and let it run a bit before filling the ice cube trays. why? because "the ice will freeze faster". but what about all that water you're wasting? "i pay the water bill."

slightly wet hands from spilling that tray? eighteen papertowels to dry them off. do you need that many, can't you just use one, or just use a hand towel? "i'm not doing more laundry. i bought a huge case at costco, and i'm gonna use them."

leaves every light in every room that he enters on? "i pay for the electricity."

it's not even about the money; it's the mindset of commodification, of anything and everything. i can point out to my friend that he's wasting money, but in his mind, because he bought something, it is his right to use as much of whatever that thing is, in whatever indiscriminate way he chooses, for as long as he chooses. it's absolutely maddening.
 
We really aren't. You gotta realize that shit is fiction, you're in the real world and even from the '90s, you could see that this shit wouldn't be real. You just can't do it.
I don't go as far to believe that, plenty of tech was considered impossible even ten years before its creation, but at the rate of advancement anything listed there will be impossible for decades, certain parts or imaginative ideas only being somewhat possible in a century. And what will be made will probably end up corrupted into a manmade horror beyond comprehension. It's all I can expect from clown world. One of the things I think will take longer than anything is the AI we have been conditioned to be scared of by the media for years, right now the best of the best can barely figure its way around a manmade structure. Deep learning ai almost always boils down to doing one very specific thing pretty well, and 99% of it only in the digital space of a game or image processing in 2d. It'll be at least a century before they can combine the text language processing, various image suites, etc into a single thing and it will have the intelligence of a giant sped.
 
Lol imagine bitching because Mom and Dad aren’t paying your bills for you all the time. Grow up. Do you people understand how selfish you sound? How much have your parents already done for you?

They had to get where they are without all of your petty modern conveniences. Surely you can manage while they live it up a bit in their old age. They deserve that at least.

Boomers are great. It’s entitled children like you who are are making things miserable for yourselves and “ruining this country”.
This post is the height of irony. All of what you said is entirely applicable to Boomers and somehow people of our generation are the ones that earn a lecture?
 
This post is the height of irony. All of what you said is entirely applicable to Boomers and somehow people of our generation are the ones that earn a lecture?
I don’t think you even understand what a Boomer is supposed to be by this metric. You all pretend you know every little detail and nuance of their individual situations. You want to lump them all together as one group because it’s easier. How very typical and lazy of you.

Did you ever stop to consider that maybe their experience actually counts for something. Maybe just maybe someone who’s actually lived a bit could know more than you about the subject of success.

Stop trying to shift the blame and be man. You should be embarrassed, but I think we both know you aren’t self aware enough to be capable of that.
 
I don’t think you even understand what a Boomer is supposed to be by this metric. You all pretend you know every little detail and nuance of their individual situations. You want to lump them all together as one group because it’s easier. How very typical and lazy of you.

Did you ever stop to consider that maybe their experience actually counts for something. Maybe just maybe someone who’s actually lived a bit could know more than you about the subject of success.

Stop trying to shift the blame and be man. You should be embarrassed, but I think we both know you aren’t self aware enough to be capable of that.
You don't have the privilege of chastising me on nuance when you assign my motives on my behalf to your statement without any further divulgence from me or prior knowledge of my personality to begin with. I don't need to pretend to know every little detail about individuals to see patterns forming from a group, consequently there is very little you, people, or their individuality that one cannot observe, document, qualify, and quantify their characteristics.

Indeed I have considered it; the knowledge Boomers imparted on me has allowed me to criticize them to a greater degree than I would have without it in both pros and cons.

Although there are some I imagine would shift blame onto Boomers, much of the comments here address cause and effect that they once had and there is merit in discussing them. Also I'm not embarrassed by what some random person online thinks of me.

"I think we both know", no - you don't know what I think and you have no idea how far my self awareness stretches, if you're going to accuse someone of being a causality of the Dunning-Kruger syndrome, I'd advise you collect more information about what people are discussing and weigh your own answers before you spout off looking like an imbecile.
 
You don't have the privilege of chastising me on nuance when you assign my motives on my behalf to your statement without any further divulgence from me or prior knowledge of my personality to begin with. I don't need to pretend to know every little detail about individuals to see patterns forming from a group, consequently there is very little you, people, or their individuality that one cannot observe, document, qualify, and quantify their characteristics.

Indeed I have considered it; the knowledge Boomers imparted on me has allowed me to criticize them to a greater degree than I would have without it in both pros and cons.

Although there are some I imagine would shift blame onto Boomers, much of the comments here address cause and effect that they once had and there is merit in discussing them. Also I'm not embarrassed by what some random person online thinks of me.

"I think we both know", no - you don't know what I think and you have no idea how far my self awareness stretches, if you're going to accuse someone of being a causality of the Dunning-Kruger syndrome, I'd advise you collect more information about what people are discussing and weigh your own answers before you spout off looking like an imbecile.
You know except for the whole part where you made your motives and reasoning abundantly clear earlier but I guess I’m expecting a bit too much of you since you clearly can’t even remember that. Really you’re just digging yourself a hole here and getting covered in mud.
 
You know except for the whole part where you made your motives and reasoning abundantly clear early but I guess I’m expecting a bit too much of you since you clearly can’t even remember that. Really you’re just digging yourself a hole here and getting covered in mud.
Yes, I missed the part where you divined as much from your stellar sense of clairvoyance, oh forgive me o' providential one.
 
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