How do we solve the problem of Islam without violence or acceptance of there intolerant views?

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Okay, shit posting is out of my system now;

Conversion is still on the table but I think we can just quarantine them to their homelands and work on peacefully assimilating/converting the more.... medieval ones we have here.

We'd have to drop the cultural relativism bullshit and make a concerted effort to do that, though, so I'm not optimistic.

 

[SofondaCox]

Militant segregation, I suppose. Keep them in their sandy pit. Don't trade with them, don't "help" them with governance issues, and eradicate any tendrils that seep out of the contagion zone.

Atheists and fags should be permitted asylum.

 

[エリス]

1. Stop fighting wars for Israel that foment hatred toward the west and revenge-based jihadism
2. Stop letting them into our fucking countries.
3. Stop giving a shit how radical they are cause it doesnt effect us anymore.
4. If they still try to invade by force (they probably wont tbh) then fuckin kill em.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Atheists and fags should be permitted asylum.

Never forget that this whole immigration adventure is primarily being pushed by atheists in our countries. We don't really need more of that.

Fags are fine though, I guess.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

1. Stop fighting wars for Israel that foment hatred toward the west and revenge-based jihadism

They'd hate us regardless, honestly. Not that Israel's really helped there, but I see very little real qualitative difference between "They hate us and want to kill us" and "They REALLY hate us and REALLY want to kill us". The "business model" (if you will) of Islam centers around bloodshed and conquest to begin with. Might as well hope to make peace with Genghis Khan.

 

[エリス]

They'd hate us regardless, honestly. Not that Israel's really helped there, but I see very little real qualitative difference between "They hate us and want to kill us" and "They REALLY hate us and REALLY want to kill us". The "business model" (if you will) of Islam centers around bloodshed and conquest to begin with. Might as well hope to make peace with Genghis Khan.

Since the middle ages no one gave a fuck about Islam until the second half of the 21st century. There's a reason for that.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

Since the middle ages no one gave a fuck about Islam until the second half of the 21st century. There's a reason for that.

Probably has something to do with being hopelessly inept militarily, more due to ethnic/national trappings than Islam itself. Idiots with guns and bombs are still dangerous, though not as dangerous as the quislings who keep letting them in.

 

[Marco Fucko]

I've seriously been racking my mind with this.

the SJW Left thinks we should just passively accept Islam which is insane considering just there treatment of women and non believers. Along with constant beheadings and rape gangs

Meanwhile 8chan alt righters are meming Brenton Tarrant and actively endorsing more Muslim attacks.

How do we find middle ground here?

Literally leave them to their homelands and don't do anything. All of this shit exists because of ethnic/sect conflict and arbitrary borders through the middle east. Pull out cold and hard and let them sort themselves out. From the ashes of whatever happens, "true" nations will form and be less unstable.

As for the ones already here, just copy the chinks and shove them into camps.

 

[I should be working]

Okay... So I have this 20 year plan, right.
We need to get Sargon of Akkad elected to the UK govenrment.
Then we need to get Donald Trump to tweet about GamerGate.
After that we need to rub our dicks against as many tranny front holes as possible.
Eventually not even the mulsims will want to live in the west.

 

[SofondaCox]

Never forget that this whole immigration adventure is primarily being pushed by atheists in our countries. We don't really need more of that.

Fags are fine though, I guess.

Hmmm, I don't think the average atheist wants more superstition, particularly a superstition that orders atheists killed. Perhaps you're referring to globalists with complex motives and dual citizenship?

 

[crocodilian]

There is no rehabilitating Islam, nor Muslims. At its core, Islam is a human plague that should be eradicated.

The Quran, Muhammad, and Sharia are all very clear on being a warfare doctrine. Anyone who tells you "peaceful Islam" exists is a lunatic, a new-age phony and very likely to take a trip off a nearby rooftop (courtesy of the actual Muslims.) Don't believe me? Read the Quran, it will tell you outright that Islam's one goal is violent conquest; to conquer all others and convert them to Islam. Conversion by caliph order, jihad by brigands, or lone wolf jihad. "Mujahid" for those too lazy to specify which of the three. You don't co-exist with Islam. You follow it, you get killed by it, or you kill it yourself.

And when the enemy is too powerful to jihad? Hijrah, or "migration"; the act of seeking refuge in your enemy's territory, preying on his empathy, and then out-breeding him with your many wives. Muslims only marry (and thus breed with) Muslims; those who disobey are killed by their own. Then when Islam outnumbers the natives, enforce Sharia... violently, of course. For extra effectiveness, have your cronies commit mujahid, then when your enemy retaliates, use it as an excuse for hijrah.

By now you might realize what a fetid, weaselly, pathetic, two-faced, evil belief system Islam actually is, and how much of a worthless fucking cunt Muhammad was. You might also realize Brent didn't do anything wrong, especially when the place he shot up produced two terrorists in the past (good luck finding that information on Google.) tl;dr it should be legal to gun down Muslims.

 

[Foxxo]

There is no rehabilitating Islam, nor Muslims. At its core, Islam is a human plague that should be eradicated.

And when the enemy is too powerful to jihad? Hijrah, or "migration"; the act of seeking refuge in your enemy's territory, preying on his empathy, and then out-breeding him with your many wives. Muslims only marry (and thus breed with) Muslims; those who disobey are killed by their own. Then when Islam outnumbers the natives, enforce Sharia... violently, of course. For extra effectiveness, have your cronies commit mujahid, then when your enemy retaliates, use it as an excuse for hijrah.

tl;dr it should be legal to gun down Muslims.

here's what Wikipedia says the Hijrah are. The two incidents which you are referring to are known as Hegira in Wikipedia, which happens to use Deus Vult terminology for this subject matter.

Ironically, the only guys who view Hegira this way are officials in Islamic institutions.

 

[JULAY]

I've seriously been racking my mind with this.

the SJW Left thinks we should just passively accept Islam which is insane considering just there treatment of women and non believers. Along with constant beheadings and rape gangs

Meanwhile 8chan alt righters are meming Brenton Tarrant and actively endorsing more Muslim attacks.

How do we find middle ground here?

Read this:

The Strength of the Strong:The Unparalleled Invasion

Then change "China" to "Muslim Countries", and there's your answer.

 

[Niggernerd]

There's only one way to deal with the Allah question.

 

[Damn Near]

Pfft. I'm frustrated with both sides. One side says "fuck it new holocaust on the stupid towelheads"

The other side says "man let's just form a giant hug around the world"

That being said at least your insane solution is actually a solution. Hopefully not The Final one tho... I just don't want to accept violence as the only way.

My man, eventually someone is going to end up wiping them out. Probably the Chinese. My prediction? No one will be too broken up about it when it happens.

 

[Recoil]

Eventually they'll be forced to choose between learning to worship in a reasonable & non-toxic fashion or being annihilated by their host culture.
It's the same choice they always had & the only choice they ever will: Adapt or die.

That's all there is to it. If they can't make that small human concession, nothing will be lost when their annihilation comes due.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Okay... So I have this 20 year plan, right.
We need to get Sargon of Akkad elected to the UK govenrment.
Then we need to get Donald Trump to tweet about GamerGate.
After that we need to rub our dicks against as many tranny front holes as possible.
Eventually not even the mulsims will want to live in the west.

The best thing about a 20 year plan is that by the time people want results, you're retired.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

The only possible way you could do that is to make sure they remain a tiny minority in whatever non third world area they're inhabiting and that their populace to the majority populace is always 1:10 at the very least. Even then, that's still extremely optimistic.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Forced assimilation like what was done to the natives in the United States. A problem with this is finding a balance between that and outright religious prosecution (which is illegal under the constitution, and good luck changing that) The forced assimilation also didn't work that well with the natives, though it might work if you try different methods. It's still worth a better shot than hoping they "reform" or assimilate on their own.

Another problem with this is it would obviously cause violence anyway since some muslims would react violently to such actions. If some more secular states actually get a foothold in the ME and don't fall the fuck apart due to civil war or western meddling then that would help too. Iran used to be a lot more progressive than what it is now....

Though to be honest whatever happens is going to happen. Maybe the world is going to be a dystopia where Islam rules the world and humanity is finally united.....under one caliph.

 

[byuu]

People tend to mix all kinds of different issues and blame it all solely on Islam. I don't think you're gonna solve anything with such an oversimplified view.
There are more problems in the Middle East than the Islam and there's more to culture than religion.
All across the ME (and parts of the Balkan) you have an ass-backwards clan mentality and honour system that all countries used to have but had to grow out of.
A lot of borders were drawn up by the West mixing different people that hate each other, they lack any unifying factor except for Islam and hatred of the West - which is what made groups like ISIS so attractive for them. Constant meddling by outside forces keeps these countries from forming a strong national identity - so they fall back to a religious identity.
Their economies are largely propped up by oil exports and they lack a strong manufacturing sector. Working side by side in a factory is a great equaliser that a lot of these countries are missing. The oil money also allows inefficient, backwards, and corrupt governments to survive.