How does the Motherfucking Saga change your view on past Chris content? - Self help group of victims of Autism

[Hogar Grupal]

No, he doesn't. Chris has absolute control over his delusions, when mentally ill people don't, that's why their delusions are usually terrifying. Chris can easily snap out of it when he needs something or when nobody is looking. Just compare what he said about fucking Barb to Bella and what he wrote in his letters. In first he almost avoids all supernatural crap, it's just "I tried, she refused, but I tried again and she complied", G-spots and other "mother-daughter relationship". But in letters it's "THE GODS TOLD ME TO HEAL HER AND I DID, SINCE I AM A DIETY AND CAN DO NO WRONG". Or just recall his court appearance. Did he tell them "I am a goddess, you can't lock me up"? No, just that he is famous on the internet and wants his plastic shit. All of this, starting with his trooning out and ending with delusions of godhood is just one big LARP, a place to hide from the harsh reality. It's very common, like when people have failing business, but hide in some delusions of grandeur "I am gonna make it big, I just need to get rid of this one employee, who keeps nagging me about my bad practices", only in Chrises case it is multiplied by his stupidity, childishness and autism.

Wouldn't Chris' coping plus delusions lead towards mental illness or something worse? I mean what's the threshold? It's these times I imagine Chris being in a padded room behind a two way mirror for people to study him. No one can go that far with their delusions, especially someone like Chris and his history. But hell, if jail time won't snap him out of it (maybe Barb's death) I don't know what will.

 

[Kosher Snake]

He abused his pets if I recall correctly. So fuck him.

that along with sexual abuse is where all psychos begin

EDIT: wording

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

Wouldn't Chris' coping plus delusions lead towards mental illness or something worse?

Mental illness is caused by brain defects. People can't just "become crazy". Stress and mental trauma can cause neurosis or PTSD, but full on schizophrenia - never.

But hell, if jail time won't snap him out of it (maybe Barb's death) I don't know what will.

Without some form of a therapy he is going to hide in his delusions even more. Especially around big mean males.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

The guy literally thinks anime is real life.

Chris could test his theory by jumping from the roof of his house in order to see if he can fly. Saying the same old shit of "moving a rock in his hand with his psychic powers" isn't going to cut it any more.

Call me MATI or a-log, autism or not, I really wish anyone would give Chris a good smack on the back of the head and say "you didn't see that coming." just to get him to stop with the delusions.

Without some form of a therapy he is going to hide in his delusions even more. Especially around big mean males.

Didn't Chris go to Region 10 for therapy from his court docket? Seems like it didn't do much of anything, unless it was a higher end therapy group/facility.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Call me MATI or a-log, autism or not, I really wish anyone would give Chris a good smack on the back of the head and say "you didn't see that coming." just to get him to stop with the delusions.

People have tried and he just sinks deep and deeper into his delusions.

Didn't Chris go to Region 10 for therapy from his court docket? Seems like it didn't do much of anything, unless it was a higher end therapy group/facility.

From my understanding he had some form of CBT there or talking therapy disguised as a nice chat kinda thing to see if he was keeping up with what ever they asked him to do and nothing really indepth or prolonged enough for it to have any real impact on Chris, and at this point I think medication and inpaitiant treatment are the only options left that could have an effect.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

People have tried and he just sinks deep and deeper into his delusions.



From my understanding he had some form of CBT there or talking therapy disguised as a nice chat kinda thing to see if he was keeping up with what ever they asked him to do and nothing really indepth or prolonged enough for it to have any real impact on Chris, and at this point I think medication and inpaitiant treatment are the only options left that could have an effect.

Chris has a history of taking prescription drugs (valium). I guess it's only fair. At most, more drugs would leave him as a zombie, but at least Chris will stay off the net and away from people for his own good.

 

[Hoodie]

People have tried and he just sinks deep and deeper into his delusions.



From my understanding he had some form of CBT there or talking therapy disguised as a nice chat kinda thing to see if he was keeping up with what ever they asked him to do and nothing really indepth or prolonged enough for it to have any real impact on Chris, and at this point I think medication and inpaitiant treatment are the only options left that could have an effect.

you can't treat a person who doesn't want to be treated. I bet the best of best therapists in the world wouldn't be able to help Chris because he doesn't believe he needs treatment. He thought running over Snyder was the right thing to do, so why should he be in therapy?

if he is to go through therapy during and after all of this, it won't do shit. He thinks the right thing to do was become a literal motherfucker. If anyone were to question his beliefs and call him out for the moron he is, he will just plug his ears and go "la la la I can't hear you..." or just become Sonichu.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

you can't treat a person who doesn't want to be treated. I bet the best of best therapists in the world wouldn't be able to help Chris because he doesn't believe he needs treatment. He thought running over Snyder was the right thing to do, so why should he be in therapy?

if he is to go through therapy during and after all of this, it won't do shit. He thinks the right thing to do was become a literal motherfucker. If anyone were to question his beliefs and call him out for the moron he is, he will just plug his ears and go "la la la I can't hear you..." or just become Sonichu.

Yea that's true but to get chris to do anything you have to make him think it was his idea and provide encouragement (bribes) to get him to keep doing it.

I think if he was brought into a treatment program that started off slowly as a nice chat kinda thing where you got him to open up over time and slowly started trying to unravel the knot that's his brain you could get somewhere but there isn't anything like that in his future unless he proves to be someones PHD or Doctoral thesis study project. The most he's going to get is medication and some form of supervision.

 

[Pica Chew]

Mental illness is caused by brain defects. People can't just "become crazy". Stress and mental trauma can cause neurosis or PTSD, but full on schizophrenia - never.

I don't think it's schizophrenia, those hallucinations are usually auditory and critical of the person hearing them. I think Chris better fits "Fantasy Prone Personality" (DSMV) pushed to the breaking point. FPP was caused by stressful childhood where boomers and hicks couldn't understand or care how to raise a reeeeeing autist. Chris's adulthood was even more stressful as hordes of the internet's worst people would conspire to create a completely fictitious world in order to stress him until he exploded, each way trying to outdo the last. The abuse Chris has suffered over the years would break anyone, and he was barely clinging on to begin with.

Somewhere deep down he knows he isn't Jesus, he isn't a computer goddess, he isn't a cartoon, he isn't a woman. But he's surrounded himself by people who tell him what he wants to hear to the point where he hasn't had to interact with consensus reality for a long time.

Like woke people say, he's lived as a woman for years so he's a woman. He's also lived as a sonichu for months so he's a sonichu. He's been jesus for a few months so he's jesus. There's nothing tying Chris to reality so it really doesn't matter if he "knows" he isn't Jesus in our reality - he lives in merge world now where it might just be true.

Wilson and Barber listed numerous characteristics in their pioneer study, which have been clarified and amplified in later studies. These characteristics include some or many of the following experiences:

• excellent hypnotic subject (most but not all fantasizers)
• having imaginary friends in childhood
• fantasizing often as child
• having an actual fantasy identity
• experiencing imagined sensations as real
• having vivid sensory perceptions
• receiving sexual satisfaction without physical stimulation

Has Chris ever fucked a ghost?

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

I don't think it's schizophrenia, those hallucinations are usually auditory and critical of the person hearing them. I think Chris better fits "Fantasy Prone Personality" (DSMV) pushed to the breaking point. FPP was caused by stressful childhood where boomers and hicks couldn't understand or care how to raise a reeeeeing autist. Chris's adulthood was even more stressful as hordes of the internet's worst people would conspire to create a completely fictitious world in order to stress him until he exploded, each way trying to outdo the last. The abuse Chris has suffered over the years would break anyone, and he was barely clinging on to begin with.

Somewhere deep down he knows he isn't Jesus, he isn't a computer goddess, he isn't a cartoon, he isn't a woman. But he's surrounded himself by people who tell him what he wants to hear to the point where he hasn't had to interact with consensus reality for a long time.

Like woke people say, he's lived as a woman for years so he's a woman. He's also lived as a sonichu for months so he's a sonichu. He's been jesus for a few months so he's jesus. There's nothing tying Chris to reality so it really doesn't matter if he "knows" he isn't Jesus in our reality - he lives in merge world now where it might just be true.

Has Chris ever fucked a ghost?

Interesting, here is a list of problems people have with that disorder:

Characteristic features​

Fantasy prone persons are reported to spend up to half (or more) of their time awake fantasizing or daydreaming, and will often confuse or mix their fantasies with their real memories. They also report out-of-body experiences, and other similar experiences that are interpreted by the some fantasizers as psychic (parapsychological) or mystical.[3]

A paracosm is an extremely detailed and structured fantasy world often created by extreme or compulsive fantasizers.[5]

Wilson and Barber listed numerous characteristics in their pioneer study, which have been clarified and amplified in later studies.[6][7] These characteristics include some or many of the following experiences:

• excellent hypnotic subject (most but not all fantasizers)
• having imaginary friends in childhood
• fantasizing often as child
• having an actual fantasy identity
• experiencing imagined sensations as real
• having vivid sensory perceptions
• receiving sexual satisfaction without physical stimulation

Fantasy proneness is measured by the "inventory of childhood memories and imaginings" (ICMI)[8] and the "creative experiences questionnaire (CEQ).[9]

Fantasy prone personality - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And the Root causes are interesting as well -

• Exposure to abuse, physical or sexual, such that fantasizing provides a coping or escape mechanism.

Parents or caregivers who indulged in their child's imaginative mental or play environment during childhood.

• Exposure to severe loneliness and isolation, such that fantasizing provides a coping or escape mechanism from the boredom.

 

[Pica Chew]

Interesting, here is a list of problems people have with that disorder:

What's amazing is that he's, quite literally, trying to drag his fantasy world into the real world. For that I want to blame narcissism and the internet. The motherfucking, seriously, was society dropping the ball. Alzheimer's is pure evil and Chris is in no way equipped to be a carer (as evidenced). He could see the massive personality (and physical) changes in his mom and tried to help (admittedly, being a selfish cunt he made it worth his while). He shouldn't have been left in that situation in the first place - his tugboat is an admission by that state that he's a defective human, how can they expect him to nurse someone through degenerative brain disease?

If you want to call him a rapist because dementia patients are incapable of consent then you'll need to close down every retirement village and nursing home in the country. Like Chris's sex & disability book says: it's demeaning to infantilize the elderly and pretend they aren't sexual creatures. All the bullshit about soul bonding comes from his "meditation" where he actually thinks things through for a change, which is why is sounds fake and not off-the-cuff like his usual speech. The healing narrative was there even before he got busted - like in that horoscope drawing. He'd been getting away with banging her for a month and he wanted to brag, not do damage control.

I really think it's a matter of someone so damaged and so out of touch with reality that when his brain-damaged mom starting acting more childish and sexual (common dementia symptoms) he was able to do the mental gymnastics to believe she's a viable choice as a sweetheart.

Let's hope whoever gets access to him for academic study is fucked up enough to properly stare into the void that is Chris Chan.

 

[Aegeus]

he had some form of CBT there

I would have thought that CBT (Cock and Ball Torture) would have been an effectual and adroit form of behavioral modification to get Chris to enhance his psyche and mental acuity. I'm astounded it didn't produce the desired outcomes.

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

I would have thought that CBT (Cock and Ball Torture) would have been an effectual and adroit form of behavioral modification to get Chris to enhance his psyche and mental acuity. I'm astounded it didn't produce the desired outcomes.

Too optimistic; Chris would avoid it at all costs and enter his Hedgehog Defensive State and squeal.

 

[King Kiwi]

It's ironic that Chris was arrested across the street from the mall where the bear called him "Christian".

Godbear was never The Real Player One, The One Avatar, The Fire Voldemort Lord, whatever.

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

We would've seen hints throughout Sonichu

'Hi! I'm Zapina! I want to take all of my clothes off, and I'm 14 years cute!'

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

'Hi! I'm Zapina! I want to take all of my clothes off, and I'm 14 years cute!'

Followed by Rosechu bemoaning the "dumb laws" that prevented her from making Zapina CP.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

'Hi! I'm Zapina! I want to take all of my clothes off, and I'm 14 years cute!'

Followed by Rosechu bemoaning the "dumb laws" that prevented her from making Zapina CP.

It would be funny/ironic if the prosecution uses this as evidence and argues more for sex offender registration.

 

[Aegeus]

if the prosecution uses this as evidence and argues more for sex offender registration

I would posit that that scene is indicative of Chris' overall fixation on sex. It also shows his eagerness to take advantage of the very young and the very old. They're both equally weak and, therefore, powerless to oppose his advances. Also, why did Chris make the only underage girl dress in the sluttiest outfit out of all the female characters in Sonichu?

However, it is unlikely that the prosecution would be willing to dive as deeply into Chris' œuvre as Christorians have done.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I would posit that that scene is indicative of Chris' overall fixation on sex. It also shows his eagerness to take advantage of the very young and the very old. They're both equally weak and, therefore, powerless to oppose his advances. Also, why did Chris make the only underage girl dress in the sluttiest outfit out of all the female characters in Sonichu?

However, it is unlikely that the prosecution would be willing to dive as deeply into Chris' œuvre as Christorians have done.

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If it wasn't creepy before when he drew it, it sure is now. Like others, I cannot fathom why Chris would draw something like that other to illustrate the point that underage sex is okay with him. Even fast forwarding to his current letter, it's one of those things that he kept in his demented mind because the SOB still had sex on the brain.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

All great Frankenstein like stories have the Monster turning on its creator.

Chris Chan is the Monster created by bad parenting from Barb (and Bob too) and, well, yeeeeeah.