How to marginalize homosexuals and transgenders for the future

[StraightShooter2]

My thoughts are that minutia like "same-sex" marriage being legal are just a red herring - while there are, of course plenty of ways to help subvert that which are entirely legal and constitutional, it's not really necessary to begin with.

The real agenda would be to just leave "same-sex" marriage legal on the books, but marginalize it to the point that it's more socially unacceptable than it ever has been before.

Just like how, in plenty of state, incest is technically legal on the books for consenting adults, but in practice is far more socially and morally unacceptable than same-sex unions were even before they were technically legal.

So simply leave it "legal" on the books, and marginalize it to the point that it's publicly (and privately) as unacceptable as incest or zoophilia is - that should be the goal for the new radicals who want to change the future, with social media being the most contemporarily popular and viable medium for doing it (compared to "dinosour" media outlets like "old people TV and cable news" which hasn't been relevant in the Information Age since the early-mid 2000s, except for soon-to-be-deceased old people and those who've been living in a cave for the last couple decades.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Why?

 

[biggest big boy]

will do chief

 

[DeadFish]

The better question is how to render the identity game the left uses inert.

 

[Bad Gateway]

Yeah, this thread is really gay. Way gayer than two guys fucking. Or even 12 guys fucking.

 

[Kyria the Great]

What is even the point of this thread?

 

[mr.moon1488]

Why?

Why not?

 

[Megaroad 2012]

Will you just come out of the closet already?

 

[Penis Drager]

Just ask the Chinese politely to produce a strain of drug resistant super AIDS. Not only will it fix the fag problem, but also ravage niggers and coal burners.
Problem solved.

 

[StraightShooter2]

Why?

I was just being a devil's advocate and looking for arguments that poke holes in popular propaganda, such as "LGBT rights" propaganda.

 

[Fake News Anchor]

My thoughts are that minutia like "same-sex" marriage being legal are just a red herring - while there are, of course plenty of ways to help subvert that which are entirely legal and constitutional, it's not really necessary to begin with.

The real agenda would be to just leave "same-sex" marriage legal on the books, but marginalize it to the point that it's more socially unacceptable than it ever has been before.

Just like how, in plenty of state, incest is technically legal on the books for consenting adults, but in practice is far more socially and morally unacceptable than same-sex unions were even before they were technically legal.

So simply leave it "legal" on the books, and marginalize it to the point that it's publicly (and privately) as unacceptable as incest or zoophilia is - that should be the goal for the new radicals who want to change the future, with social media being the most contemporarily popular and viable medium for doing it (compared to "dinosour" media outlets like "old people TV and cable news" which hasn't been relevant in the Information Age since the early-mid 2000s, except for soon-to-be-deceased old people and those who've been living in a cave for the last couple decades.

You could only do this if freedom of speech were an actual thing in the west. Half of white countries will send you to jail for shaming homosexuals, the other half will see you fired for it (even if it is done outside of work). The solution at this point (unfortunately) is acceleration. The faggots, foreign trespassers, and elites will get their way from the system until the system is no longer tenable - until then no positive change can happen.

The better question is how to render the identity game the left uses inert.

There is no functional, ideological, or emotional reason for nonwhites, faggots, or the elites to give up on identity politics. In each case it excuses any wrong doing they engage in while protecting them against retribution. I challenge you or any other user on here to explain why they would ever want to give up that handicap.

 

[StraightShooter2]

You could only do this if freedom of speech were an actual thing in the west. Half of white countries will send you to jail for shaming homosexuals, the other half will see you fired for it (even if it is done outside of work). The solution at this point (unfortunately) is acceleration. The faggots, foreign trespassers, and elites will get their way from the system until the system is no longer tenable - until then no positive change can happen.

The irony though, is that the "secular" arguments are actually much stronger anti-gay and anti-trans than the so-called "religious" arguments.

 

[Fake News Anchor]

The irony though, is that the "secular" arguments are actually much stronger anti-gay and anti-trans than the so-called "religious" arguments.

True, but you don't get to speak those arguments openly without being blacklisted, imprisoned, or otherwise persecuted in the west.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I was just being a devil's advocate and looking for arguments that poke holes in popular propaganda, such as "LGBT rights" propaganda.

Nuking LGBT rights involves either generating a very persuasive argument against gays having sex being unforgivably degenerate that doesn't also render 99% of straight sex as also being unforgivably degenerate (sending us back to the Puritan days of feeling shame when you have sex because it feels good, even if you only ever put benis in bagina through a sheet with all the lights off with the express purpose of making children), creating a fully general and highly persuasive argument against the ideas that underlie Western Civilization and advocating for a return to absolute monarchies, theocracy, or some other primitive form of government, or giving up on arguments altogether.

True, but you don't get to speak those arguments openly without being blacklisted, imprisoned, or otherwise persecuted in the west.

Funny that most Christians and Muslims are still allowed to practice their faith openly across the West.

 

[knobslobbin]

I was just being a devil's advocate and looking for arguments that poke holes in popular propaganda, such as "LGBT rights" propaganda.

Bringing back the autism sticker isn't enough for this comment. Spergasm Event registering 8 on the autism scale.

"Guys I was just practicing for imaginary debates and hoping to bone up on my logical phallacies, like for realz."

 

[Smug Chuckler]

We shake our gay friends' hands with joy buzzers duh.

 

[Fake News Anchor]

Funny that most Christians and Muslims are still allowed to practice their faith openly across the West.

So long as they tiptoe around issues such as abortion or faggotry. The reality is that the old testament indicates that the death penalty is appropriate for sodomites, yet it would be hard to imagine any standard office job allowing you to talk about that, meanwhile office spaces are inundated with flyers and pamphlets of why you should support these child molesters and disease-hosts. To say that because homophobes are allowed to still work at a gas station, or that as long as they keep silent they can work elsewhere, that they aren't having their speech repressed is absurd.

Post Stalin, most noncommies were still allowed to hold down menial nearly impoverishing livelyhoods, but to have a decent lifestyle they would have to never openly question the reigning ideology. There are no gulags (yet), but the infrastructure in most workplaces and in the govt (at least in the US) are already in place to utterly repress all dissenting views in the middle or upper classes.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Make fun of them for their threads complaining about @SITHRAK! ,for starters.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Why?

Not important. Faggot OP is a solutions man, not a reasons man.
He also frequently states bizarre opinions as if they were fact, and is so sure of his being right that he doesn't feel the need to support his brainsharts.
Case in point:

The irony though, is that the "secular" arguments are actually much stronger anti-gay and anti-trans than the so-called "religious" arguments.

AT LAST, I TRULY SEE!

 

[It's HK-47]

The reality is that the old testament indicates that the death penalty is appropriate for sodomites

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. - Leviticus 18:22

I wouldn't really recommend trying to stick too close to the rules that Leviticus outlined, considering that the book in question details all sorts of interesting rules and stipulations that basically no living person in the modern would could possible adhere to. Leviticus is very often quoted specifically for 18:22, but like:

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Leviticus 19:27 - Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.​

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Leviticus 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you.​

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Leviticus 19:33 - And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.​

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Leviticus 19:33 - And if a soul sin, and hear the voice of swearing, and is a witness, whether he hath seen or known of it; if he do not utter it, then he shall bear his iniquity.​

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Leviticus 5:4 - Or if a soul swear, pronouncing with his lips to do evil, or to do good, whatsoever it be that a man shall pronounce with an oath, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty in one of these.​

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Leviticus 10:16 - Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour​

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Leviticus 19:19 - Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.​

So also according Leviticus, you shouldn't mar your beard, have any tattoos, shit-talk immigrants, spread slander or gossip, plant multiple things in your garden, fail to properly report any misdeeds you witness, make oaths or promises you don't actually keep, or wear clothes with mixed fabrics. That's far from an exhaustive list of all the things that God condemned in Leviticus, but it's clearly not the easiest set of rules for any modern person to adhere to, especially Christians, ironically.