How to marginalize homosexuals and transgenders for the future

[DeadFish]

You could only do this if freedom of speech were an actual thing in the west. Half of white countries will send you to jail for shaming homosexuals, the other half will see you fired for it (even if it is done outside of work). The solution at this point (unfortunately) is acceleration. The faggots, foreign trespassers, and elites will get their way from the system until the system is no longer tenable - until then no positive change can happen.


There is no functional, ideological, or emotional reason for nonwhites, faggots, or the elites to give up on identity politics. In each case it excuses any wrong doing they engage in while protecting them against retribution. I challenge you or any other user on here to explain why they would ever want to give up that handicap.

There is a few ways to counter identity as a weapon.

First have to focus on how woke capital gains power from the masses.
These methods are:
Government handouts
Preferential treatment
Free pass to be jerks (as long you ain't doing to the prog side)
Mass media and means of indoctrination.
False dictomonies.
Deception and subtle psychological manipulation


Let's talk about the media.

One way to counter the media is create barriers for dissemination of their propaganda.

Ever read about the tower of babble?
Where god got everyone working on the tower to speak languages intelligible to everyone else?

Soon that happened the project stopped.

What one can do is increase different the amount of languages in america to the point the medias message becomes meaningless.

Revive dying native american or regional languages. Creole is a great example. New York City harlem used to have its own language. Claim it's racist not to revive it. Dialects work too. Accelerate changes in american language. Right now in the midwest there is a great vowel shift occuring. The most pronounced these changes are the further the medias power dies.

That's one way to deal with identity politics game

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. - Leviticus 18:22

I wouldn't really recommend trying to stick too close to the rules that Leviticus outlined, considering that the book in question details all sorts of interesting rules and stipulations that basically no living person in the modern would could possible adhere to. Leviticus is very often quoted specifically for 18:22, but like:

​

Leviticus 19:27 - Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.​

​

Leviticus 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you.​

​

Leviticus 19:33 - And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.​

​

Leviticus 19:33 - And if a soul sin, and hear the voice of swearing, and is a witness, whether he hath seen or known of it; if he do not utter it, then he shall bear his iniquity.​

​

Leviticus 5:4 - Or if a soul swear, pronouncing with his lips to do evil, or to do good, whatsoever it be that a man shall pronounce with an oath, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty in one of these.​

​

Leviticus 10:16 - Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour​

​

Leviticus 19:19 - Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.​

So also according Leviticus, you shouldn't mar your beard, have any tattoos, shit-talk immigrants, spread slander or gossip, plant multiple things in your garden, fail to properly report any misdeeds you witness, make oaths or promises you don't actually keep, or wear clothes with mixed fabrics. That's far from an exhaustive list of all the things that God condemned in Leviticus, but it's clearly not the easiest set of rules for any modern person to adhere to, especially Christians, ironically.

Don't you know? Something, something, we don't have to listen to any of that but we do still have to kill all the fags, something something Lev is a pick-and-mix bag that we can strip-mine. (Also, you missed the part where eating shrimp or oysters sends you straight to Hell).

There is a few ways to counter identity as a weapon.

First have to focus on how woke capital gains power from the masses.
These methods are:
Government handouts
Preferential treatment
Free pass to be jerks (as long you ain't doing to the prog side)
Mass media and means of indoctrination.
False dictomonies.
Deception and subtle psychological manipulation


Let's talk about the media.

One way to counter the media is create barriers for dissemination of their propaganda.

Ever read about the tower of babble?
Where god got everyone working on the tower to speak languages intelligible to everyone else?

Soon that happened the project stopped.

What one can do is increase different the amount of languages in america to the point the medias message becomes meaningless.

Revive dying native american or regional languages. Creole is a great example. New York City harlem used to have its own language. Claim it's racist not to revive it. Dialects work too. Accelerate changes in american language. Right now in the midwest there is a great vowel shift occuring. The most pronounced these changes are the further the medias power dies.

That's one way to deal with identity politics game

1. You are actually insane.
2. Babel is an allegory.
3. Rome had a fuck-ton of different languages and enforced a single identity through a lingua franca.

 

[NerdShamer]

I was just being a devil's advocate and looking for arguments that poke holes in popular propaganda, such as "LGBT rights" propaganda.

Sing the ballad of Tara Wolf.

 

[DeadFish]

Don't you know? Something, something, we don't have to listen to any of that but we do still have to kill all the fags, something something Lev is a pick-and-mix bag that we can strip-mine. (Also, you missed the part where eating shrimp or oysters sends you straight to Hell).


1. You are actually insane.
2. Babel is an allegory.
3. Rome had a fuck-ton of different languages and enforced a single identity through a lingua franca.

Know what's crazy?

America now has a dementia patient as president.
People are rioting and burning cities down in the name of drug addict who OD ed.
Said drug addict has been beatified by the media.
So saying the truth of said drug addict will result in a mob burning ones house down.
Mentioning said dementia patient might be not fit for office and couldn't been elected legitimately will get one smeared by the media.

Yet me trying figure out ways to stop this that doesn't involve getting my dog shot by the feds makes you say I'm insane?

Well if trying to figure out a solution to a problem makes me insane I hope I'm the most bug shit crazy person you'd ever talked to.

 

[Quiet Guy]

Don't you know? Something, something, we don't have to listen to any of that but we do still have to kill all the fags, something something Lev is a pick-and-mix bag that we can strip-mine. (Also, you missed the part where eating shrimp or oysters sends you straight to Hell).


1. You are actually insane.
2. Babel is an allegory.
3. Rome had a fuck-ton of different languages and enforced a single identity through a lingua franca.

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. - Leviticus 18:22

I wouldn't really recommend trying to stick too close to the rules that Leviticus outlined, considering that the book in question details all sorts of interesting rules and stipulations that basically no living person in the modern would could possible adhere to. Leviticus is very often quoted specifically for 18:22, but like:

​

Leviticus 19:27 - Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.​

​

Leviticus 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you.​

​

Leviticus 19:33 - And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.​

​

Leviticus 19:33 - And if a soul sin, and hear the voice of swearing, and is a witness, whether he hath seen or known of it; if he do not utter it, then he shall bear his iniquity.​

​

Leviticus 5:4 - Or if a soul swear, pronouncing with his lips to do evil, or to do good, whatsoever it be that a man shall pronounce with an oath, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty in one of these.​

​

Leviticus 10:16 - Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour​

​

Leviticus 19:19 - Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.​

So also according Leviticus, you shouldn't mar your beard, have any tattoos, shit-talk immigrants, spread slander or gossip, plant multiple things in your garden, fail to properly report any misdeeds you witness, make oaths or promises you don't actually keep, or wear clothes with mixed fabrics. That's far from an exhaustive list of all the things that God condemned in Leviticus, but it's clearly not the easiest set of rules for any modern person to adhere to, especially Christians, ironically.

The ceremonial laws in the Old Testament don't really apply. Circumcision being unnecessary after Jesus is spoken about through various books of the New Testament, and the issues with dietary restrictions are discussed in Mark 7:14-19:
14 And he called the people to him again and said to them, “Hear me, all of you, and understand: 15 There is nothing outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.” 17 And when he had entered the house and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. 18 And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, 19 since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.)

Note that Jesus Himself is saying that food cannot defile someone. It's also noteworthy that Jesus hated the religious hypocrisy shown by the Pharisees and lawyers during His time, including their taking issue with His healing on the sabbath. Religious legalism can also be, shall we say, frowned upon in Christianity.

Of note God's laws aren't supposed to be without reason:
I John 5:3 (ESV) For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
For the mixed garments example, I actually looked up the reasoning for that one a while ago. Apparently according to the Talmud (the Jewish oral tradition that helps explain the law) those mixed clothes were forbidden due to their use in occult rituals. I think the reasoning for not cutting your body for the dead or making markings might be fairly similar, but I'm not certain.

As far as homosexuality being a sin, I would point out that it seems this issue is reiterated in the New Testament, and the rampant promiscuity and disease that tends to be common with homosexuals would give a reason for that being against God's law.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. - Leviticus 18:22

I wouldn't really recommend trying to stick too close to the rules that Leviticus outlined, considering that the book in question details all sorts of interesting rules and stipulations that basically no living person in the modern would could possible adhere to. Leviticus is very often quoted specifically for 18:22, but like:

​

Leviticus 19:27 - Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.​

​

Leviticus 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you.​

​

Leviticus 19:33 - And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.​

​

Leviticus 19:33 - And if a soul sin, and hear the voice of swearing, and is a witness, whether he hath seen or known of it; if he do not utter it, then he shall bear his iniquity.​

​

Leviticus 5:4 - Or if a soul swear, pronouncing with his lips to do evil, or to do good, whatsoever it be that a man shall pronounce with an oath, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty in one of these.​

​

Leviticus 10:16 - Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour​

​

Leviticus 19:19 - Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.​

So also according Leviticus, you shouldn't mar your beard, have any tattoos, shit-talk immigrants, spread slander or gossip, plant multiple things in your garden, fail to properly report any misdeeds you witness, make oaths or promises you don't actually keep, or wear clothes with mixed fabrics. That's far from an exhaustive list of all the things that God condemned in Leviticus, but it's clearly not the easiest set of rules for any modern person to adhere to, especially Christians, ironically.

It is not just the OT that considers homosexuality outside what is permissible.
1st Corinthians 6 verse 9
> Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
effeminate = homosexuals
Edit:
Revelations doubles down a lot on this.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I was just being a devil's advocate and looking for arguments that poke holes in popular propaganda, such as "LGBT rights" propaganda.

You should read orson scott card's essays on homosexuality, they seem to stroke with your "don't make it illegal, but put it back in the closet" agenda.

So also according Leviticus, you shouldn't mar your beard, have any tattoos, shit-talk immigrants, spread slander or gossip, plant multiple things in your garden, fail to properly report any misdeeds you witness, make oaths or promises you don't actually keep, or wear clothes with mixed fabrics. That's far from an exhaustive list of all the things that God condemned in Leviticus, but it's clearly not the easiest set of rules for any modern person to adhere to, especially Christians, ironically.

Those are mostly good advice. I saw someone with a non-pure cotton shirt yesterday and it was disgusting.

I was generous to her and promptly advised her to take it off, but she refused, the heathen.

 

[Pigtoad]

Sounds like a pipe dream. Not trying to attack your line of thinking but that's just not the direction out culture seems to be headed.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I was just being a devil's advocate and looking for arguments that poke holes in popular propaganda, such as "LGBT rights" propaganda.

How would you know lgbt rights are propaganda if you don't yet know any holes in it?

 

[Slap47]

Just ask the Chinese politely to produce a strain of drug resistant super AIDS. Not only will it fix the fag problem, but also ravage niggers and coal burners.
Problem solved.

You do not need to ask the Chinese for this for it is already being made - naturally.

 

[Noir drag freak]

For one thing, marginalization doesn't work. From my readings, modern homosexuality is the product of urbanization, (Post-)Industrialization, and capitalism. The only way to effective marginalization homosexuality is to go full Nazi Germany or USSR. But that really stops nothing. Or pull us is back to the Middle Ages. But either the homosexuals would join the Church, city, or just get married. Or if they're rich live as a comfirmed bachelor. But I don't think it will work in the long term. I know that people like to point to Ancient Greece and Rome, but homosexuality and prostitution is commonplace in urban civilizations.

ETA:
For one thing, when homosexuality was illegal and marginalized, it wasn't bad unless you were in the middle class. I know that people like to point to trial of Oscar Wilde, but his triall could be seem as a special case. The wealthy had their private affairs and the poor were to be busy struggling. The middle class enforced moral norms and virtues, because they're social position wasn't that stable.

 

[Lemmingwise]

The only way to effective marginalization homosexuality is to go full Nazi Germany or USSR. But that really stops nothing. Or pull us is back to the Middle Ages.

What do you mean? What precisely does going "full nazi germany or USSR or middle ages" mean? Would it mean we would go toward going in a direction where what we can and can't do is tightly controlled by people in power? Because as I'm sitting at home in curfew in the Netherlands with restrictions on travel, I find it hard to envision such a dystopia.

 

[CheezzyMach]

My dude the big gay are only 4.5 percent of the population and trannies are less than 1% of the population in America.

I really think you're worrying over nothing. More rights for the Rainbow brigade aren't going to cause the downfall of Western civilization or the myriad of other doomsday scenarios you've heard peddled by paranoid Rightwingers. Even if the LGBT were the cackling villains you think they are they simply don't have the numbers.

 

[Fake News Anchor]

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. - Leviticus 18:22

I wouldn't really recommend trying to stick too close to the rules that Leviticus outlined, considering that the book in question details all sorts of interesting rules and stipulations that basically no living person in the modern would could possible adhere to. Leviticus is very often quoted specifically for 18:22, but like:

​

...​

So also according Leviticus, you shouldn't mar your beard, have any tattoos, shit-talk immigrants, spread slander or gossip, plant multiple things in your garden, fail to properly report any misdeeds you witness, make oaths or promises you don't actually keep, or wear clothes with mixed fabrics. That's far from an exhaustive list of all the things that God condemned in Leviticus, but it's clearly not the easiest set of rules for any modern person to adhere to, especially Christians, ironically.

I don't believe in using the Bible as a pretext for morality enforcement, and I agree people who do generally just cherrypick for the sake of confirming their presuppositions. My point wasn't that the Bible is correct, my point was that people who speak openly about their religion are absolutely NOT free to do so in the West insofar as those religious views contradict Critical Fag Theory.

There is a few ways to counter identity as a weapon.

First have to focus on how woke capital gains power from the masses.
These methods are:
Government handouts
Preferential treatment
Free pass to be jerks (as long you ain't doing to the prog side)
Mass media and means of indoctrination.
False dictomonies.
Deception and subtle psychological manipulation


Let's talk about the media.

One way to counter the media is create barriers for dissemination of their propaganda.

Ever read about the tower of babble?
Where god got everyone working on the tower to speak languages intelligible to everyone else?

Soon that happened the project stopped.

What one can do is increase different the amount of languages in america to the point the medias message becomes meaningless.

Revive dying native american or regional languages. Creole is a great example. New York City harlem used to have its own language. Claim it's racist not to revive it. Dialects work too. Accelerate changes in american language. Right now in the midwest there is a great vowel shift occuring. The most pronounced these changes are the further the medias power dies.

That's one way to deal with identity politics game

Phychobabble for the most part, but what I really want to point out is wrong is the idea that encouraging them to deepen the divisions between separate identities via linguistic barriers will somehow work against identity politics. If anything, such a shift would further isolate racial identities and encourage greater ethnocentrism - which is to say, its only value is in acceleration towards violent confrontation.

My dude the big gay are only 4.5 percent of the population and trannies are less than 1% of the population in America.

I really think you're worrying over nothing. More rights for the Rainbow brigade aren't going to cause the downfall of Western civilization or the myriad of other doomsday scenarios you've heard peddled by paranoid Rightwingers. Even if the LGBT were the cackling villains you think they are they simply don't have the numbers.

5% of the population which has nearly free reign to do whatever fucked up shit to the 95%. They can groom your kids, push their extreme political agendas, intentionally spread STDs, and force you to play along with their gender fluid tranny shit - and if you object to any of this the government will arrest you in places like Britain or Canada, or the corporate and media institutions will get you blacklisted from any sort of job, position, or social group that isn't already on the fringes of society. They might be only 5%, but they have the unwavering support of virtually all Western institutions to the point that one cannot openly criticize them without major repercussions.

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

Make women have 10+ kids again so when the faggy/weak/retarded one wanders into a forest and never comes back or falls into a well by accident it's no big deal

 

[Chicken Picnic]

Why do you care so much about what type of sex randos enjoy in their own privacy?

Like you rant and rave about Britain and Canada but do you live in either of those? I can tell you in Britain, as shitty as it can be here, most of these things are not an issue if you just... Don't be an asshole in public? Do I agree with all of the laws we have here? No. But will they affect me? Not really, because the chances of me saying to anyone "I hate (insert "protected" group name here)" is pretty slim.

I have issues with the laws in a lot of places, for example I don't think offensive comedy should be something you can get fucked over for, but your posts are just cringe dude. You don't like men sticking their dicks in each other, good for you, most people can go their lives without caring.

I don't like anyone parading around being extremely sexual in public, LGBT or not, so if someone wants to take a dick in their ass in the comfort of their own home, go wild. For the record, I'm a full fucking dyke but I guess you could say I'm closeted to most people irl. Not because I'm scared, but because it's no one's fucking business? Like do you go around exclaiming how you're specifically straight and want to fuck women/men all the time? Me neither, people will 'find out' about my sexuality whenever they see who my future partner is.

Also straights groom kids all the time too. Pedos are pedos. Outlawing gays won't stop sick people doing sick shit.

 

[Fake News Anchor]

Why do you care so much about what type of sex randos enjoy in their own privacy?

Like you rant and rave about Britain and Canada but do you live in either of those? I can tell you in Britain, as shitty as it can be here, most of these things are not an issue if you just... Don't be an asshole in public? Do I agree with all of the laws we have here? No. But will they affect me? Not really, because the chances of me saying to anyone "I hate (insert "protected" group name here)" is pretty slim.

I have issues with the laws in a lot of places, for example I don't think offensive comedy should be something you can get fucked over for, but your posts are just cringe dude. You don't like men sticking their dicks in each other, good for you, most people can go their lives without caring.

I don't like anyone parading around being extremely sexual in public, LGBT or not, so if someone wants to take a dick in their ass in the comfort of their own home, go wild. For the record, I'm a full fucking dyke but I guess you could say I'm closeted to most people irl. Not because I'm scared, but because it's no one's fucking business? Like do you go around exclaiming how you're specifically straight and want to fuck women/men all the time? Me neither, people will 'find out' about my sexuality whenever they see who my future partner is.

Also straights groom kids all the time too. Pedos are pedos. Outlawing gays won't stop sick people doing sick shit.

Imagine making the argument that it's about what responsible consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes. Fags make their shit as public as possible, and if you don't refer to the tranny how they like then you'll be brought up on hatespeech laws in the UK and Canada. You're talking about it like their propaganda isn't in every school and on every TV station, and you're wrong.

As far as living in the UK or Canada is concerned, no I don't live there - but if you haven't noticed, every batshit insane socially left policy that America adopts is preempted by the UK and Canada by a couple years. Considering as in the US the same types of policies are being discussed right now (criminalization of 'hatespeech'), I think it's a reasonable concern to have as an American. The fact that you think being and asshole in public by disagreeing with the LGBT+++ talking points means you should be imprisoned shows how you do, in fact, agree with those shitty laws. Of course you don't need to fear being punished for disagreeing with it if you're too afraid to ever open your mouth, but what can you expect from a Brit I guess.

Finally, straights groom kids all the time too , weird how Muslims aside almost all child molesters are fags. Weird how when a straight adult (unless they're a muzzie in the UK) grooms a child the government rightfully sends them to jail, but fags are able to have countless NGO's designed specifically to indoctrinate kids into their fag communities. Not only does your and my governments tolerate that shit, they outright encourage it. But, leave it to the dyke to support their fellow freaks.

 

[It's HK-47]

I don't believe in using the Bible as a pretext for morality enforcement, and I agree people who do generally just cherrypick for the sake of confirming their presuppositions. My point wasn't that the Bible is correct, my point was that people who speak openly about their religion are absolutely NOT free to do so in the West insofar as those religious views contradict Critical Fag Theory.

Maybe, but the Muslims run around and beat the shit out of gay people and throw them off of rooftops, so you're still getting what you want. Life's all about looking for those silver linings, unless you're a gay man in the Middle East with a fear of heights.

 

[NerdShamer]

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. - Leviticus 18:22

I wouldn't really recommend trying to stick too close to the rules that Leviticus outlined, considering that the book in question details all sorts of interesting rules and stipulations that basically no living person in the modern would could possible adhere to. Leviticus is very often quoted specifically for 18:22, but like:

​

Leviticus 19:27 - Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.​

​

Leviticus 19:28 - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you.​

​

Leviticus 19:33 - And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.​

​

Leviticus 19:33 - And if a soul sin, and hear the voice of swearing, and is a witness, whether he hath seen or known of it; if he do not utter it, then he shall bear his iniquity.​

​

Leviticus 5:4 - Or if a soul swear, pronouncing with his lips to do evil, or to do good, whatsoever it be that a man shall pronounce with an oath, and it be hid from him; when he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty in one of these.​

​

Leviticus 10:16 - Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour​

​

Leviticus 19:19 - Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.​

So also according Leviticus, you shouldn't mar your beard, have any tattoos, shit-talk immigrants, spread slander or gossip, plant multiple things in your garden, fail to properly report any misdeeds you witness, make oaths or promises you don't actually keep, or wear clothes with mixed fabrics. That's far from an exhaustive list of all the things that God condemned in Leviticus, but it's clearly not the easiest set of rules for any modern person to adhere to, especially Christians, ironically.

Surprised that you didn't bring up the part about period blood.

 

[StraightShooter2]

Not important. Faggot OP is a solutions man, not a reasons man.
He also frequently states bizarre opinions as if they were fact, and is so sure of his being right that he doesn't feel the need to support his brainsharts.
Case in point:

AT LAST, I TRULY SEE!

If executing 100 gays/transgenders saved 1,000 people from dying of AIDS, this would be a very strong "secular" argument in favor of executing homosexuals. Much stronger rationale than just saying that "God hates fags" or some other rubbish.

I've used that argument and even some atheists and leftists agreed with the rationale, they just countered it by saying something like "oh but that will never actually happen in the real world".