Culture I am Gen Z. Men in my generation are not dating. Why should we?

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All across America, marriage, sexuality and relationships are on the steady decline among young people. According to a new Pew Research study, 63% percent of men aged 18 to 29 report being single. That means the number of single young men is nearly twice that of single young women, indicating a large breakdown in the social, romantic and sexual lives of American men. The big question is: Why?

One would think that making romantic connections would be easier than ever in our digital world, but the opposite is true. Our culture of convenience has paradoxically made dating more difficult for men as they are forced into a hyper-competitive, superficial environment that emphasizes instant gratification over true human connection. While there are several potential culprits causing this relationship breakdown, nothing has done more damage to the dating landscape than dating apps, social media and pornography.

Let’s start with dating apps. The advent of relationship websites started with Match.com in 1995 and evolved into the swipe-based platforms we know today with Tinder and Hinge releasing in 2012, and Bumble in 2014.

According to a survey of 6,034 adults, 53% of adults ages 18-29 have found someone to date through an app or site. However, new Census data shows that the U.S. marriage rate hit an all-time low in 2019. For every 1,000 unmarried adults, only 33 got married. This number was 35 a decade ago in 2010 and much higher at 86% in 1970. So, what gives?

It’s easier for men to date, thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.

With the abundance of choices on dating apps, young men are finding it difficult to build deeper connections with a single person due to that sense of constant availability. When a minor red flag appears in a relationship that is otherwise going smoothly, why stick around and work it out when thousands of other choices are right at your fingertips? Young men are making that calculation every day on dating apps and are siding with the latter. How can you blame them with the constant programming coming from social media?

With social media today, men can scroll through their feeds and popular pages to view more beautiful women in one sitting than most men would see in their lifetime a hundred years ago.
Social media vies for people's attention leading women to commercialize themselves, which gives men an unrealistic expectation of the dating pool. On social media, people are encouraged to only show their best, even if it’s fake! With the advancements in facial-recognition technology, many times men are looking at women through heavily filtered and airbrushed lenses.

While women reap the benefit of the online attention, men are left wondering how the dating pool has gotten so far out of reach. Consequently, those same women who are marketing themselves as something they’re not are left without a partner and wondering where all the good men have gone. Through social media, both sexes are conditioned to treat themselves as a number instead of embracing true human connection and partnership.

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but to me, flirting face-to-face leaves a bigger impression on the potential for a relationship than reacting to girls’ Instagram Stories with the flame emoji. Coupled with the barrage of women on dating apps, the culture of constant comparison fostered by social media makes it hard for men to commit to a relationship and settle down. If that wasn’t enough, now even men’s greatest source of dating motivation has been co-opted by pornography.

There is no doubt that lust, which is carnal in nature, is the strongest driving motivation for men when it comes to dating. It sparks initial attraction and passion and draws people together. Ultimately though, lust may fade, but the emotional connection typically built upon that initial sense of attraction is what can determine a relationship’s success.

Pornography, however, completely destroys this dynamic, because it shifts men’s reward system to simply being carnal and physical in nature but lacking the emotional connection necessary for healthy relationships. Today, pornography is easier than ever to consume. Forty million U.S. adults regularly visit pornography websites, and 10% of U.S. adults admit to having an addiction to Internet pornography.
It’s easier for men to date thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.
Research shows that about 67% of 13-year-old boys have seen at least one pornographic image on some sort of digital device in the past year, and by the age of 18, that number rises to 90%.

In porn, finding a "relationship" is effortless. With porn, this digital partner has nothing else to do but wait for you, please you and give you exactly what you think you want. If this partner ever fails to keep you entertained, they can be exchanged with a single click. Why waste your time dating, flirting and putting in effort when men can have their deepest sexual desires met online?

Today, men in their 20s are more likely than women to be romantically uninvolved, sexually dormant and friendless. Studies have shown that men are more likely to engage in risky and violent behaviors when they lack a stable relationship, leading to higher crime rates, substance abuse and social unrest. Single men may also be less invested in building strong social networks, leading to isolation and a lack of community engagement.

Simply put, the breakdown of relationships between men and women is startling, and it is detrimental to a healthy society. The good news is that men can fix this, and the remedy is easier than we think. Leave dating apps, stop watching porn, and go talk to girls in real life.
 
Agree 100% I think it's 4-6 different articles all compiled together. Too long but relevant and accurate to my eyes.
i forgot to thank you for this
“Much has already been written in the conservative press in condemnation of the sexual revolution, of course, but in my view most of the criticism is worse than worthless because it is simply an expression of male rescue fantasies rather than an informed and rational assessment of the situation. Thus, there are calls for greater protection for women whose chief problem is that they are overprotected to begin with. Lonely bachelors who could easily find a wife in a monogamous society are portrayed as dangerous predators upon female innocence when the only reason they remain bachelors is that women are furiously competing to join the harems of a few unusually handsome and successful men. Hard working men are berated for failing to provide for women who enjoy preferences in hiring and advancement at their expense and have better economic prospects than they do.

Conservatives who cannot heap enough ridicule upon Rousseau’s doctrine of the natural goodness of man are often among the most naïve in asserting the natural goodness of woman. This is a kind of ideology, with an ideology’s characteristic capacity to ignore or explain away conflicting evidence. Many men continue to insist, in defiance of all the evidence of women’s actual behavior, that women are pining away for morally upright men to love, honor, and obey, and that the poor dears cannot find happiness only because other men (never the writer himself, of course) are selfish, irresponsible cads.
i mean, jesus fucking christ
it just needs better formatting

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I finally finished it. That was a good read but fucking hell, it needed formatting. The idea that the collapse will be a glorious time is hilarious though. Big or small, people are going to die, whether by their own hand or another's. The trouble of the masculine wilds and feminine civilization idea is that the former is unsustainable and ends with death while the latter is actually still extremely-male dominated by principle of requiring men to be men, making the entire argument kind of retarded. Aside from those small little tidbits of romanticizing destruction and fatalism, I agree and see things coming down that way. We kind of already are. I forgot it was about women near the end too after it veers off into just how fucked Western Society is globally due to its misplaced ideals.

The idealization and glorification of destruction and decay is just cope. Really, the mindset of the weak man who wants to be strong. Someone looking for the inciting incident of a plot in real life. It reminds me of the kids who used to get into fights at school because they thought it made them look tough. It just made them an idiot. Holding your bare arm over a roaring fire doesn't make you strong or prove anything other than your own stupidity. What post-collapse civilization can be born from this mindset? At best, it's only for dealing with the collapse itself.
 
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Unironically an interesting sympathetic breakdown of what men, and young men specifically, are going through.
I have yet to complete this text wall, but lemme just double down on the general blackpill:
When you speak with a veteran soldier returning from Afghanistan or Iraq, he will speak wistfully of the fraternity of those days, which he cannot find anywhere as a civilian.
Per an anecdote from an Army vet I know, that's on the way out, too. According to him, people can just retreat to barracks and play video games when off-duty. Granted, that's in the context of deployment in well-established bases rather than in an invasion where amenities are not yet available, but the point is there's not as much of an opportunity for "brotherhood" in the immediate context of the Army. For the antisocial, the same paths of least resistance available in civilian life are increasingly available in military life, too.
 
Aside from those small little tidbits of romanticizing destruction and fatalism
Did you notice that? It’s everywhere.

I think it would be good for a lot of incels to leave mom’s basement and face the burden of paying rent. Yeah, it’s stressful. As a human being, you were designed to handle that.

As much as everyone wants to blame cornflakes for having fructose in them, the real reason we’re fat is because we are designed to do more physical work than we end up doing.

I it’s a little unfair to expect mating drive to kick in for a bunch of turboautistic basement dwelling NEETS when they’re so far removed from the actual struggle nature presents, like every other life form has to struggle to find food but you can just text mom “more nuggies!” and bitch about abstractions these days.

If you really want something, drop the excuses and go get it. That’s not to say that the excuses don’t contain real difficulties, but that focusing on the difficulty and crying about it won’t make anyone pity you enough to try to fix it for you.
 
Did you notice that? It’s everywhere.

I think it would be good for a lot of incels to leave mom’s basement and face the burden of paying rent. Yeah, it’s stressful. As a human being, you were designed to handle that.

As much as everyone wants to blame cornflakes for having fructose in them, the real reason we’re fat is because we are designed to do more physical work than we end up doing.

I it’s a little unfair to expect mating drive to kick in for a bunch of turboautistic basement dwelling NEETS when they’re so far removed from the actual struggle nature presents, like every other life form has to struggle to find food but you can just text mom “more nuggies!” and bitch about abstractions these days.

If you really want something, drop the excuses and go get it. That’s not to say that the excuses don’t contain real difficulties, but that focusing on the difficulty and crying about it won’t make anyone pity you enough to try to fix it for you.
this is the same baseless and nothing advice the article has a good point about
people have these shitty attitudes because they can't succeed, not the other way around
 
this is the same baseless and nothing advice the article has a good point about
people have these shitty attitudes because they can't succeed, not the other way around
That’s not a “good” point at all. It’s exactly the rhetoric you would get from someone who wants you to give up and go extinct. People eat it up because comfy

Human beings have large brains and opposable thumbs because they’re supposed to solve problems, not wallow in them
 

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Women should ask out men if they want a quality guy. They would be far more successful than the other way around. Men get virtual
I hope one day you realize how pathetic and stupid the statement you posted here is.
Women don't seem to want to be approached but still complain that men aren't approaching them. It's funny stuff

But even then women will only approach men way out of their league, so the same problems will still arise
Sure, you don't feel affected perhaps right now, but once it hits a certain threshold QoL will drop precipitously. For everyone.
Women don't think long about the future. It's why many end up 34 and bitter
 
Look up police response times in your area sometime, if you can. Note it down, check again a year later.
https://jasher.substack.com/p/police-are-taking-longer-to-respond https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-experiencing-police-hiring-crisis-rcna103600
Shortages of firefighters, doctors, nurses, teachers, airline pilots, skilled and unskilled laborers as well are going on right now and getting worse by the month/year. A lot of shit is going down the drain and will continue to get worse as culture decays. The replacement rate tanking ever downward effects everything in society as well, given that all of the professions that make society work both need an amount of staff proportional to the demand, and that there's only a certain percentage of people who are ever interested in any of these keystone careers.

Not going to bother explaining the taxation/government services side of this equation as I've talked about it ad nauseam to the point I'm sick of explaining it. The ongoing competency crisis ties directly into this and effectively acts as a multiplier on top of this already dire issue.

Sure, you don't feel affected perhaps right now, but once it hits a certain threshold QoL will drop precipitously. For everyone.

And no, for the record, anyone incel or no who's fucking smug about this happening is as retarded as anyone who earnestly believes it's not a problem nor a concern.
I don't disagree with this and I see it happening in real life, but I was referring specifically about the "riots and shootings" statement.
 
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I don't disagree with this and I see it happening in real life, but I was referring specifically about the "riots and shootings" statement.
That ties into the whole "cop shortage" part of the equation.

There's a lot of ways that kind of shit could end up happening with the way things are going but to be fair that's probably a decade or two down the line. Not that it, you know, will be better when we're all irl oldfags.
I don't see anything wrong with his statement. Most of the people pissing and moaning online about this kind of stuff really hate hearing basic advice that works for the majority of people.
My statement was more directed at his tone and delivery than anything.

My personal opinion on the topic remains admittedly odd compared to that of others, and it's at odds with people who make it a matter of personal import to themselves, be it projecting that as a need on others, or acting as if it's something as important as having a home, food, or work for themselves, or both.
 
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Women don't think long about the future. It's why many end up 34 and bitter

It's why we have feminism in the first place. Women do not actually know what they want. A woman wants every man to make less money than her except the one man who sweeps her off her feet. That guy needs to be a billionaire.

Since women don't think rationally about society, they don't reason out that a world that suppresses male incomes and boosts female incomes is a world where each individual woman will have a much harder time finding a wealthier man to settle down with.

Women don't seem to want to be approached but still complain that men aren't approaching them. It's funny stuff

They want to be approached. They just want unattractive guys to read their minds and know not to approach them.
 
Women don't seem to want to be approached but still complain that men aren't approaching them. It's funny stuff

But even then women will only approach men way out of their league, so the same problems will still arise
Learning to tell the difference is the test that god and nature provide to determine whose genes may continue.

By going black pill, you’re flagging your genes for deletion.
 
When these guys encounter a problem, they solve it by rephrasing it until it’s unsolvable.
Learning to tell the difference is the test that god and nature provide to determine whose genes may continue.

By going black pill, you’re flagging your genes for deletion.
It's insipid shit like this and the faux tone of authority that I was getting at.

Same reason I mocked the guy who made a blog post earlier in the thread. Even if you weren't retard #2,304 I've seen try this shtick to no avail, even if your attempt at advice was worth a fuck to listen to, your manner of communicating it is so abrasive that ironically only a complete fucking cuckold of a man would read it and have a reaction of anything other than immediate hostility.

It's the internet, dude. Nobody can tell if you're 6'7" and ripped or if you're just another Tomlinson stalkerincel-childing people who are complaining about this shit, even if I personally think desiring companionship to the degree some of the people who frequent these threads do is unhealthy and backwards, you still come off like an internet tough guy who says obvious shit but thinks he's brilliant for espousing it.

And for the record if it wasn't obvious I disagree with a full half at a minimum of the MGTOW-tier takes on women present in this thread.
 
It's the internet, dude. Nobody can tell if you're 6'7" and ripped or if you're just another Tomlinson stalkerincel-childing people who are complaining about this shit, even if I personally think desiring companionship to the degree some of the people who frequent these threads do is unhealthy and backwards, you still come off like an internet tough guy who says obvious shit but thinks he's brilliant for espousing it.
In my experience, these fags are always the latter more than the former anyways. So shitting on them is warranted.
 
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