I Worked On A Right Friendly Social Media Network. It Unsurprisingly Crashed And Burned Immediately.

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Another example of just how well the crazies on the Left have their shit together.

There was an effort to let the community be involved with some cosmetic choices for the site. Volunteers were called for to create an informal group to solicit feedback and come up with options.

The groups was immediately filled with mostly your typical SJW activist types eager to jump on even the slight bit of bureaucratic authority. They started combing through people who volunteered social media history and found that one of them had something 'problematic'. They 'kicked' her out even though there was no actual group membership or authority. But they just went right ahead and acted like they had that authority.

They then went on to draft some standard SJW type diversity statement and demanded that their positions were made into permanent paid cultural sensitivity enforcers.

The whole network crashed and burned before that bit of drama managed to unfold.

As to porn, the 3rd Reich, right vs libertarian in the comments above. I'm not trying to be precise with my labels. The only point I am making is just how FUCKING STUPID AND IMPOTENT the Right is when it comes to any sort of social networking.

Yes, in my personal opinion, the highest quality posters were middle right university types. And the left was dominated by SJW/identity politics university types spewing word salads about systemic racism and the like.

But just from a purely high level view of the two groups, the Right are utterly clueless in how to effectively combat the Left's tactics.

It is time for the Right to get a clue and go head to head with the Left's tactics so that there is some sort of mutually assured destruction for both sides and people can actually spend time online having real debates about important issues.

Stop raping children

 

[Salubrious]

Remember that when the Bolsheviks took power in Russia and Lenin, Trotsky et al. all squabbled over who got which plum post - minister for foreign affairs, economy, etc., Josef Stalin volunteered to just be General Secretary and handle all the bureaucracy and coordination. They let him. They didn't think it was important. Stalin understood power better than any of them.

Did Stalin volunteer?

I had always heard that he was given the role because they no longer had any use for him as the Party's strong arm. He was the "Joe Pesci in Casino" role of the Revolution for lack of a better term (I can't think right now). He then figured out later on just how much power this gave him and how much they fucked up.

I haven't studied it enough yet to be firm in this belief though.

 

[theshitposter]

From user point of view, days of centralized social media are over. Small forums with dedicated topics will always be superior. SM is only useful to those who want to promote their stuff to dumb normies. And these people don't care for privacy, freedom, dignity blah blah. They are cozy in their bubble.
And only an idiot would assume putting together lefties and righties in a same sphere is a good idea.

Instead of an alt social media, one should make an internet yellow pages like directory to link various communities. Knitting club, bonsai enthusiasts, fanclubs, sports discussions, gambler, addicts, you name it. Anyone can post their listening but there will be an editor's choice and a trending list. It can be monetized through promotions.
still haven't been able to figure out how to safely handle 'spicy' communities like piracy & mohammed fanatics.

 

[Calandrino]

"To complete your registration, verify that you are human by screaming I HATE NIGGERS into your mic"

 

[Lodoss Warrior]

So, is anyone going to ask for evidence this isn't just QAnon 2.0 writing fanfiction that conveniently reflects what most users here believe about both sides of the political divide?

 

[byuu]

I was shocked to see the disparity between the different sides of the political spectrum. The Left literally never sleep. Pick the most obscure forum or hashtag at 3am and there is someone from the Left sitting there alone at home endlessly hitting refresh for someone possibly posting remotely positive about Trump or for an opportunity to call out some -ism.

The Right just does not have those types of people in their ranks.

I don't really buy this.
There's clearly no lack of pathetic no-life losers on the right. Just look at Fuentes' fans who instantly report anything critical of him.

Maybe it's because the leftist spergs consider policing speech as something very important. "Hatespeech" is a horrible crime for them but not for right-wing spergs.

 

[draggs]

Bulletpoints:

• Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
• Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
• People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
• Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
• The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
• A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
• The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.

• No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
• Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
• An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
• Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
• And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
• The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:

• The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
• The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.

So you say you were associated in some way that you are rather vague about with miserable, miserable failure and "left with zero sympathy" to obfuscate your association with this miserable failure, and to get asspats.

Some odd reddit-tier baiting follows, like this gem:

Many on the right consider themselves Christians but believe in Regans efforts in confronting the Soviet Union with nuclear weapons despite 'Thou shall not kill".

And don't forget the endless "nothing will solve this" bait.

So, is anyone going to ask for evidence this isn't just QAnon 2.0 writing fanfiction that conveniently reflects what most users here believe about both sides of the political divide?

What is that you're using, discernment? On KF? Impossibru!

 

[Calandrino]

I don't really buy this.
There's clearly no lack of pathetic no-life losers on the right. Just look at Fuentes' fans who instantly report anything critical of him.

It sounds doubtful that 4chan could hold the weaker hand in the autism war, but look at Wikipedia for example.

Maybe we're under pod people invasion and they can't grow enough pods for everybody at once so they have to do it like this.

 

[Odnovo]

I don't really buy this.
There's clearly no lack of pathetic no-life losers on the right. Just look at Fuentes' fans who instantly report anything critical of him.

Maybe it's because the leftist spergs consider policing speech as something very important. "Hatespeech" is a horrible crime for them but not for right-wing spergs.

I have a half-baked theory that a lot of the "supporters" on both sides are actually AI that is advanced enough to anonymously influence the masses and perhaps even to catch certain buzzwords/sentences and either reply to them in a rudimentary sentence or report it. I don't know as to what extent this happens or how true it is, though.

 

[Plank]

I don't really buy this.
There's clearly no lack of pathetic no-life losers on the right. Just look at Fuentes' fans who instantly report anything critical of him.

Maybe it's because the leftist spergs consider policing speech as something very important. "Hatespeech" is a horrible crime for them but not for right-wing spergs.

Both are true but the important part is the second.

When it comes to online social networks, yes, you do have just as many pathetic no life people who are willing to do things that any one with a normal life and job aren't going to waste time with.

With the Right it is completely unorganized and ultimately leading to no goal. Making memes, shitposting, trolling hostile forums or hashtags and then running back to their mates for approval.

With the Left there is always an endgame that even the lowest and dumbest know how to contribute to:

• It there is any sort of bureaucracy, join it
• If you are part of a bureaucracy, purge it of your ideological enemies - no matter how insignificant the bureaucracy is
• Transform any bureaucracy you control to be focused primarily on social justice
• If you can't or aren't able to gain bureaucracy power, create the illusion of it in your posting
• And for those who aren't wielding bureaucracy power there is decades of social justice/identity politics ideology that dumbest on the Left only need to grasp the most trivial aspects of to wield as an effective weapon to purge social networks of the Right:
  • This is hate speech, sexist, racist, transphobic
  • I was threatened and am a protected class
  • I was threatened and asking for evidence is a second violation of myself
  • And on and on and on - and all of it backed up by the force of the huge number of Left anti-ism institutions and banking/finance just waiting to pounce

Section 230 reform or other such legislative attempts to fix the problem aren't going fix this problem for the Right.

I don't have any realistic answers other than it was shocking to see first hand the Left execute without any top level leadership.

Remember that when the Bolsheviks took power in Russia and Lenin, Trotsky et al. all squabbled over who got which plum post - minister for foreign affairs, economy, etc., Josef Stalin volunteered to just be General Secretary and handle all the bureaucracy and coordination. They let him. They didn't think it was important. Stalin understood power better than any of them.

Excellent point.

I think back to when I was a child and how completely and utterly I was able to understand such a boring but absolutely fundamental reality of how human power structures work in the real world.

You make many other excellent point I could respond to.

 

[draggs]

Both are true but the important part is the second.

When it comes to online social networks, yes, you do have just as many pathetic no life people who are willing to do things that any one with a normal life and job aren't going to waste time with.

With the Right it is completely unorganized and ultimately leading to no goal. Making memes, shitposting, trolling hostile forums or hashtags and then running back to their mates for approval.

With the Left there is always an endgame that even the lowest and dumbest know how to contribute to:

• It there is any sort of bureaucracy, join it
• If you are part of a bureaucracy, purge it of your ideological enemies - no matter how insignificant the bureaucracy is
• Transform any bureaucracy you control to be focused primarily on social justice
• If you can't or aren't able to gain bureaucracy power, create the illusion of it in your posting
• And for those who aren't wielding bureaucracy power there is decades of social justice/identity politics ideology that dumbest on the Left only need to grasp the most trivial aspects of to wield as an effective weapon to purge social networks of the Right:
  • This is hate speech, sexist, racist, transphobic
  • I was threatened and am a protected class
  • I was threatened and asking for evidence is a second violation of myself
  • And on and on and on - and all of it backed up by the force of the huge number of Left anti-ism institutions and banking/finance just waiting to pounce

Section 230 reform or other such legislative attempts to fix the problem aren't going fix this problem for the Right.

I don't have any realistic answers other than it was shocking to see first hand the Left execute without any top level leadership.



Excellent point.

I think back to when I was a child and how completely and utterly I was able to understand such a boring but absolutely fundamental reality of how human power structures work in the real world.

You make many other excellent point I could respond to.

What was this social media platform's name
What were your job responsibilities
How high up in the organization was your position, you apparently know everything about everything regarding it
Why aren't you posting in anything but generalities with no specific details
When was the last time another human being touched your genitalia willingly, if ever, because you can't stop masturbating here
How many states are you a registered sex offender in

Answer questions pls

 

[Plank]

Answer questions pls

Yes, my dad does work at Nintendo.

The discussion is now being derailed too much. But there really isn't anything more for me to add. I was only brought on to run the technical side of the platform. The people who funded and designed the platform aren't going try again with any of the technical solutions suggested. They wanted to have a first class public social network platform where everyone could contribute without feeling they were being silence/banned for their political beliefs. They have thrown their hands up and moved on.

 

[draggs]

Yes, my dad does work at Nintendo.

It's worse than anyone could have imagined

The discussion is now being derailed too much. But there really isn't anything more for me to add. I was only brought on to run the technical side of the platform. The people who funded and designed the platform aren't going try again with any of the technical solutions suggested. They wanted to have a first class public social network platform where everyone could contribute without feeling they were being silence/banned for their political beliefs. They have thrown their hands up and moved on.

lol that was easy

next time try harder faggot

 

[Slap47]

Bulletpoints:

• Was brought on to help setup a new social media network
• Technically straightforward, not really rewarding from that angle
• People putting up the money were not alt-right crazies. They were very serious about creating a very large social media platform that was for all Americans
• Very strong promises that there would be no banning or censorship based on political beliefs. And none of the silly 'it is only ok when we do it' type censorship on current social media platforms.
• The people putting up the money spent long and hard hours devising ways to structure moderation and rule enforcement that was free from political bias.
• A relatively small set of invites went out to people from all parts of the political spectrum
• The network crashed and burned in a very short amount of time

All those plans crashed and burned immediately.

• No political moderation for many Right posters meant the green light to immediately go full 3rd Reich and inappropriate porn where it had no reason to be.
• Any attempts at to rein in the Right's shit posting memelords was met with howls of 'wHaT AbOuT My fReE SpEeCh???'
• An endless stream of Right posters were banned screeching about how life wasn't fair
• Meanwhile the Left posters immediately started to worm their way into any and every position of authority - no matter how small.
• And those on the Left who didn't work their way into every bureaucratic nook and cranny did their part by 'feeling unsafe' and 'reporting threats - that they took very seriously'
• The Left was like watching some self assembling machine magically come to life, while the Right looked like what happens after a bus full of retarded kids hit a telephone pole

I was astonished by just what a bunch of complete and utter fuckups the Right in general was. I was left with zero sympathy. It has been years that social media has been important enough a force in society for the Right to take seriously and understand how the game is played.

It was shocking to see the difference in the front line troops for each side:

• The Left had an endless number of people who eagerly would jump at the chance to fill and hold on to some tiny bit of bureaucratic/moderating power even if it meant sitting home eating 99cent cups of noodles 24/7 and constantly hitting refresh ready to pounce on the slightest bit of wrongthink
• The Right had an endless number of people who were eager to be Free Speech Martyrs going down in pointless and retarded blazes of self felt glory.

The dream of every American leftist is to be a functionary who serves their party. The dream of every American rightist is to be an individual who spergs.

That sounds very appropriate.

 

[Odnovo]

What was this social media platform's name
What were your job responsibilities
How high up in the organization was your position, you apparently know everything about everything regarding it
Why aren't you posting in anything but generalities with no specific details
When was the last time another human being touched your genitalia willingly, if ever, because you can't stop masturbating here
How many states are you a registered sex offender in

Answer questions pls

He probably doesn't want to get doxxed. Given how anyone can lurk or browse most sections of these forums, that is understandable.

 

[Plank]

The dream of every American leftist is to be a functionary who serves their party. The dream of every American rightist is to be an individual who spergs.

That sounds very appropriate.

And that once the Left achieves their ideological utopia they will be well rewarded a high level party position and a comfortable income where they can sit on their asses at home and be given a brand new iPhone each year.

I'm not sure exactly when we went from things like "agreeing to disagree" or even just "I don't like you or your politics, just leave me alone" to this level of aggression tbh.

The left has gotten incredibly aggressive in a way that absolutely does not look organic, and they've been doing a ton of purity testing to make sure that dissent is minimal or not brooked at all. This feels very engineered and very coordinated in a way that frankly I don't believe either side was capable of 25 years ago.

I believe there is a direct line from how effective the Left is with social media and going all the way back to The Long March Through the Institutions that the Left started in the 1960s. You have a huge number of people on the Left now who deeply believe every single power structure - no matter how small and trivial - is inherently -ist and needs to be taken over and destroyed and remade. That is the type of marching orders that even the lowliest private can grasp and execute effectively.

He probably doesn't want to get doxxed. Given how anyone can lurk or browse most sections of these forums, that is understandable.

Yes, but more the fact that creating a social network is such an incredibly trivial thing to now - it is a solved problem. Anyone with a decent web/server guy could have their own social network up in running a day or two. Throw in some artists/layout people and in a week you could have something fairly close to the major social media networks. Scaling beyond a few tens of thousand users starts to be expensive and need staff.

So, who gives a fuck other than a butthurt teenagers who think I am dunking on the Right.

 

[The Last Stand]

If your big selling point is "no/limited moderation" that's an open challenge to a lot of trolls to see just how hard they can push those limits, which in turn leads to a lot of those posts you attributed to "the right". I'd also argue that, in general, if that's your big selling point, you're implying your site is more of an internet playground as opposed to a legit competitor to the big sites.

You give an inch, they'll take a mile.

Politics has ruined social media. Or the other way around, maybe both. Social media used to be THAT: online social interaction between your peers, friends, family, and everybody in between.

The joy of the Internet of yesteryear was the anonymity granted with it. People used common sense; they didn't share every detail about themselves on the World Wide Web. That and Internet access was restricted to one access point; cell phone data we know today wasn't widespread then.

There were bad, fishy sites but you had to LOOK for that content. Internet was a novelty; now it's practically a requirement. That's a double edged sword.

 

[melty]

Instead of an alt social media, one should make an internet yellow pages like directory to link various communities. Knitting club, bonsai enthusiasts, fanclubs, sports discussions, gambler, addicts, you name it. Anyone can post their listening but there will be an editor's choice and a trending list. It can be monetized through promotions.
still haven't been able to figure out how to safely handle 'spicy' communities like piracy & mohammed fanatics.

Everything was unironically better when the web functioned this way.

I don't find op's story implausible. It's really that hard to believe some starry-eyed venture capitalists wanted to create a new social media platform but with ___ and it went horribly wrong? These things were a dime a dozen ten years ago

 

[Liber Pater]

It's one of Conquest's Laws of Politics. Any bureaucracy that is not explicitly right-wing will become left-wing over time.
Truly value-neutral freedom of speech does not and cannot exist anywhere where there is even the possibility of moderation. On any public platform, moderation is necessary to avoid becoming a CP lair and potentially getting raided by the feds, so a truly anarchic speech environment is not really feasible for a mainstream, search-engine-indexed website.
The best that you can hope for is a somewhat niche community run by a benevolent (albeit not totally impartial) e-dictator. Unfortunately, people as autistic and stubborn as Null is are very rare and the odds of having two such moderators in succession is very low.

 

[wry wrangler]

Do you mean actually right wing or do you mean lolbertarian? It sounds like you mean lolbertarian.

No True Scotsman.