i certainly cant be denying any of the things you mentioned there, rightly so theres plenty of evidence as to the stuff he's said/done. dude might be tighter with his money than even ice is. some of ice's other streaming friends have admitted to swatting him too tho. for me to see this somewhat objectively, i gotta look at this shit in terms of two different eras and for the money aspect. id say the marking of eras is pre-arab andy streaming and post-arab andy streaming, at least with regard to donations/tts..that incident set a precedent and its clearly made these other guys more reluctant to do that same kind of thing like they all used to do. the tts shit, they all know it gets em in more trouble than its worth, maybe theyre starting to see it more as a gag to bag on each other than anything else this week. if mexican andy was trying to grind on money as opposed to building a following tho, id think he'd be out there in walmarts in florida and shit in public during the day like that tts'ing every day and he hasnt, you know? i figured he or asian andy was gonna try and take arab andy's place and push that public tts agenda. the arab andy thing was kind of a wakeup call, it had to be. maybe its made them prioritize money and realize they'll always be making it and maybe theres gonna be down periods and they dont have to sperg so hard for reactions and content. i dunno. maybe hes just too bit up by bugs and shit to wanna go around to different places like the others are. and hey, perhaps they're even wisening up about their shitty behavior and simply using this week as a vacation. could be counting their blessings and talking about whats happened over the last few months. could be all of these things. or it could be wishful thinking on my part, hah!
i cant really give any of these guys any free and clear clemency just the same as you in the end honestly because they all do the two steps forward, one step back thing when it comes to being decent on a daily basis, you can see it in how they treat one another much less anyone they come across out and about..and i know it seems hypocritical to say after the last few posts i made in here, but theres been moments with each of these guys that ive seen near total ego death in their eyes and seen em all but unravel, im surprised tsa didnt end his stream earlier last night. as far as the emotional/psychological side of streaming and seeing the effects it has on the streamer, and yeah, this is a lil powerleveling to say, but kinda needs to be said: i was friends with a camgirl named sweeteva for 7 or 8 years until she died. im seriously surprised there was never a thread on her. if you want to search her up on youtube and see a true streaming hot mess far bigger than the sum of the whole of all of these guys combined, no joke, that was kind of first generation to this sort of pay to play streaming fandom. you'll quickly see how much that she had to deal with, a lot of this same kinda shit with the swatting and craigslist, gravel/pizza/chinese deliveries, all of that. and it was way worse for eva because of her personality that she put out there on the stream, she all but asked for the abuse. that friendship goes all the way back to the jmeeting no audio, just video days, where you're just typing out your responses in a chat applet.. ill definitely read that reddit thread tho, i appreciate ya linkin it and i appreciate ya wisening me up. i wanna be informed of what im wasting my time on for sure, aaha.
in the end, i cant help but feel i got a personal litmus here as far as shittyness is concerned and with more people glomming on ice, i guess what i mean to say is that mexican andy's been bumped outta the bottom 3, probably should said that straight up, ahaha. i guess its the difference between me going and looking these cats streams up. i just recently got a newer os that allows me to actually stream, so ive been watching live as opposed to the edits a little bit. maybe i noticed someone say just that on the reddit a few days ago too, the bottom 3 thing. i'd hope we can at least agree on that, and its certainly not a good thing to have to agree on. to that end its like deciding whether to eat catshit or dogshit tho. but i dunno man, even with what ive seen, i just cant put him on the same conniving level as some of those other urchins, you know? mexican andy doesnt seem to have the capacity to manipulate and be duplicious the way some of the others do. just dont see it on the surface of what im takin in, maybe im giving him too much credit. maybe im just hoping now that he's got a lil following that he'll break off and do his own thing and mature and realize he doesnt need them. it'd probably be happening if he went and did his own thing instead of maybe feeling dependent on those others in whatever the capacity it is. i dunno. the whole thing just feels like a timesink thats not for me, maybe i check out the streams simply because of eva and i want to get an idea of how streaming has changed in the last few years. its all pretty weird to me.
